would you flip for AP 15400

[bokmeipai]

I am considering flipping my PAM 572 for an Audemars Piguet 15400st white dial.
I find the white dial mesmerizing although I had a ROO 26470st which I wasn't crazy about and traded away. What are your thoughts, would you flip ?

[Mystro]

I wouldn't. I just don't dig the AP design. I don't think AP age well at all.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I wouldn't. I just don't dig the AP design. I don't think AP age well at all.

That is my concern with AP also. They are so pretty when new but the aged ones I see online don't look good in pics. Panerai and Rolex age (wabi sabi) very well imho. Almost look better when aged sometimes. I swear my 232 looks better.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by mfer

That is my concern with AP also. They are so pretty when new but the aged ones I see online don't look good in pics. Panerai and Rolex age (wabi sabi) very well imho. Almost look better when aged sometimes. I swear my 232 looks better.

Fwiw, this is my 4 year old 15400.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by SMD

Fwiw, this is my 4 year old 15400.

It looks in really good shape.

I've seen some in the used section of the dealers case that didn't look nearly so nice. If I get an AP, I'd likely stick to ceramic, but they are too big for me. That Diver looks so good.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by mfer

It looks in really good shape.



I've seen some in the used section of the dealers case that didn't look nearly so nice. If I get an AP, I'd likely stick to ceramic, but they are too big for me. That Diver looks so good.

You mean this one?

[Cru Jones]

No, I'm not much a 15400 fan. If for a 15300 or 15450, maybe, though the 572 and one of those would be a very solid duo.

[Lordofrolex]

I would do it. I personally have both a Pam and an AP. Prefer my AP in almost every way, comfort, look, function, ect..

[AK797]

I would, I'm more of an AP guy anyway.

[SMD]

I have a couple PAMs and some APs and the APs get more attention. But still wear my PAMs so save for both would be my answer.

[nick c]

Originally Posted by AK797

I would, I'm more of an AP guy anyway.

Neil time to give Panerai a chance

[AK797]

Originally Posted by nick c

Neil time to give Panerai a chance

I did try a few years back, and I quite liked the Submersibles I tried on in Selfridges.

[SMD]

Or you can do just the ceramic bezel, which is all you need.

[Ruud Van Driver]

I'm not a fan of the AP design, so I wouldn't do it.

However, I'd leave both behind in a zombie apocalypse so I guess my opinion doesn't count for much

[mickyd329]

In a heart beat. Panerai's are great, but AP is just on another level.

[ap1]

I'd make that flip. AP a different level altogether. Maybe the diver is more of a comp (ish)

[Lemarp]

As much and as permanent as my PAM 351 is in my collection, I would flip all my watches for my AP 15400 silver dial if I had to.

AP is a whole other ballgame vs my others which all feel similar in terms of 'quality' if that makes any sense (Omega, Rolex, Panerai).

That said, it is a design you either love or hate. The fact that you're considering it suggests the former.

[Ian Macdermott]

Personally no
I ( fortunately ) do not find any AP that appeals to me.

[yjfang]

I owned almost exclusively Panerai's in mid 2000's when it was a super hot niche product. They took my attention away from Rolex in fact. Then Panerai prices went into the stratophere where they rivaled entry level AP's so I started looking at and buying those. I owned a couple of different Divers, Safari, Black, 44MM SS, 15400, and Jumbo but ultimately traded them away. I had some issues with the power reserve and accuracy and developed a love / hate relationship with the octagonal bezel. Sometimes I marveled at the Genta design, other times, I hated how obtuse and tall it is. I then got into Patek's and ultimately lost interest in those.

I've been back into Rolex in the last couple of years (specifically the 5 digit sports references) and just recently bought back a couple of basic Panerai's. The secondary prices have dropped so much that they represent a strong value prop. 10 years later I find myself admiring them as before. I've come full circle.

I have no interest in getting back into APs currently.

[q8rolex]

AP for sure

[Pam673]

Like someone said AP don't age too well.

One of my friend was told by a AP service centre recently that his 15202 has rust on the case(?)...I mean seriously??? They clean up the case but he is a bit wary of the brand now.

I would go with whatever is in your heart and that can never be wrong when you are making a decision based on an emotional desire.

[Watcheroo]

Originally Posted by Pam673

Like someone said AP don't age too well.



One of my friend was told by a AP service centre recently that his 15202 has rust on the case(?)...I mean seriously??? They clean up the case but he is a bit wary of the brand now.

Please explain how APs don't age well. Also, no offense, but your friend must be pulling your leg with that story.




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[HL65]

Originally Posted by Watcheroo

Please explain how APs don't age well. Also, no offense, but your friend must be pulling your leg with that story.




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Also OP: Go for it...AP makes amazing watches with superb finishing!

[Pam673]

Originally Posted by Watcheroo

Please explain how APs don't age well. Also, no offense, but your friend must be pulling your leg with that story.




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My friend was not pulling my leg...he is not that type of person.

The octagonal bezel design doesn't age well to me once you have a few hairline scratches running across the bezel and the case of the watch... plus the AP had rust issue my friend bought up.

[stockae92]

trading for for one of the big 3? yes, i would do it. :)

[Jay (Eire)]

The Royal Oak is a classic. Does it age well? Ah, yes, looks pretty current for a watch born in 1972.

Some variations over the years have had dials that do seemed aged today. But the watch you are looking at is the classic and plain variation, it won't age. Go for it.

[TOlsen]

I'm guessing your gonna be a bit short on cash after flipping the PAM572 if you want a 15400.

What else do you have in your watchbox?

[flintsghost]

I wouldn't do it. I only own two Panerai's and have only had them for a short time. In the past I have admired them but never felt like I wanted to add one due to their shere size. I have always owned Rolex's, IWC's and Breitlings in my collection. I don't like AP and think their general design is ugly. I like my Panerai's well but the first one I bought was a 356 which went to my son. I prefer my 1392 due to the 42mm size. Right now I wouldn't even consider an AP no matter what.

[Hairdude1]

I would go AP

[tig00s1783]

No question go AP!