Would you make this trade?

[Ruud Van Driver]

I'm itching for something different and want to step up to something a bit more special. PM is not an option for me because I'm not a fan and I also want something that's going to go under the radar so I'm considering a PP Nautilus, which seems to tick the boxes.

Simply put, I'm not dropping that amount of money on a watch. For a start, Mrs Van D would drop a truck in my head if I did. However, I could do it by means of consolidating my collection.

I've been talking with one of the trusted sellers here and I can get a pre-loved Nautilus in exchange for my Daytona, BLNR and D-Blue plus a negligible amount of cash his way. Or, I could get a BNIB for my three Rolexes plus about US$4k.

That would leave me with my two Panerais (with a third coming in August) and my LVc. The only thing that really bothers me is that my Daytona was my first Rolex and has my birthday on the warranty card.

Thoughts?

[iliketime]

i wouldnt, cant dump the panerais in any way? keep the first, but the others let them go

[Chewbacca]

what? for a 5711?

all 3 + $4k?

no.

even though by the numbers its about even steven -- the 5711 isn't more special than 3 iconic rolexeses imop.

[DramaTurtle]

You get to keep your best Rolex ref, but I still wouldn't do the trade. Just doesn't seem right. You have a great collection. And the Nautilus is certainly not that under the radar.

[Masteryacht]

No way, those are three wonderful watches. I don't care for the style of the nautilus and frankly have never understood all the hoopla over it.

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by Masteryacht

No way, those are three wonderful watches. I don't care for the style of the nautilus and frankly have never understood all the hoopla over it.

Well said and I agree !!!
No Way Jose!!!! Forget About it...
Your Rolex's IMHO completely smoke and blow
away that particular PP reference... wait and
See how you feel in a few weeks or a couple of
months ... it's too much to trade and risk ...

[And1dre]

I wouldn't make the trade. Those Rolex references are some of my favorites.

[Daryl]

keep the daytona..

[CYKBC]

I'd do it


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[Nikita70]

I definitely would not. I think you will regret it.

[Wrist Watcher]

Not a chance. JMO

[ocwatching]

wow..that's a lot...how much is 5711 in SG? have you tried the 5711 in person?

[Jaycnyp]

I say no, just because you are already on the fence about giving up your Daytona.

[Al1969]

Seems you're giving up quite a bit(about 30-32K) for your three Rolex.
What about the Pams? Any chance you can do a PAM+2 Rolex?
I only seen the 5711 in pics, but I'm not sure I'd let go those 3 great pieces for it.

[vukotab]

Well...

I have seen and tried some (premium) watches in my time (had some as well), so, without further ado...I wouldn't do it even if the devil himself is chasing me!

First of all, I have nothing but MAD respect for Patek Philippe brand, they produce really fantastic watches and their prices are pretty steady...BUT...

Your Rolex watches are totally awesome (in my opinion, your Daytona is a WAY better watch in a pure horoligical sense, but whatsoever...) and, if it were me of course, I wouldn't be even tempted to do such a trade.

But I completely understand the situation - we are the watch freaks, we love our watches, but we got bored pretty quickly and then we want to sell, trade, buy...

IMHO, either give up of this trade, or (if you want Nautilus so badly) wait for BETTER trade proposition!

Anyways, only you know what is it that YOU want to do, so if the idea is clear - then, DO IT without a second thought!
Otherwise, keep your amazing collection and - try to save some money for Nautilus!

[toucan]

Work with the trusted seller , funny I traded my d blue and blnr and cash for a 5711r . In your case I don't think that much cash should be going in the deal. Also, keep the daytona lose the lvc.
You'll love the 5711- go new with your name on the COO.

[Bigsykedaddy]

I personally wouldn't do that. While I love the Nautilus I would prefer those other watches over it. If anything I would sell the Panerai watches and maybe one Rolex and then save for the rest. That's my opinion but as I'm sure you know do what makes you the most happy

I haven't owned a PP yet (I definitely will one day) but from everything I've read on these forums and elsewhere they don't seem to be as tough as the Rolex watches. That along with the servicing costs (time it takes to have a service done) I would definitely add the PP to your collection instead of getting rid of some really rock solid pieces.

I apologize in advance if I am incorrect about the fragility of PP watches, I'm just going by what I've read / been told by owners.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

I wouldn't.

[Fleetlord]

1) Have you tried a Nautilus on and lived with it on your wrist for a bit? Do you know you would like it for really real?

2) Trading out of ROLEX and into PATEK is acceptable, BUT ABSOLUTELY not if it leaves behind Panerai in your collection...and especially because of those three particular Rolex references...

So I would definitely trade the Panerai first, especially before they get any softer...

The Daytona is an ever ascending reference and the DBLUE / BLNR are rock solid, desirable pieces...so hanging on to those and moving out of Panerai is sharp.

[ap1]

One pam, one Rolex, cash - that's how you get your 5711.

[Ruud Van Driver]

Hmmmm, seems like the majority view is a resounding 'no'.

To answer questions generally:

1. My Panerais are going nowhere. I actually prefer them to my Rolexes.
2. My PAM 689 is a boutique only reference limited to only 300 pieces and my 359 is getting more wrist time than anything else at the moment.
3. My 359 is my most accurate watch, having gained seven seconds in three weeks.
4. I've never seen a Nautilus in the flesh, never mind tried one on.
5. I've heard of the scary short service intervals for PP and the time taken to do the job.
6. I'd leave the Nautilus behind in a zombie apocalypse.
7. Whilst my Daytona is special because it was my first and I picked it up on my 47th birthday, I would keep the LVc over it. My LVc is my zombie apocalypse watch.

On the basis of the above, I'm probably better off saving for a few years and adding the Nautilus while keeping what I have.

Thanks for your views, guys

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Hmmmm, seems like the majority view is a resounding 'no'.

To answer questions generally:

1. My Panerais are going nowhere. I actually prefer them to my Rolexes.
2. My PAM 689 is a boutique only reference limited to only 300 pieces and my 359 is getting more wrist time than anything else at the moment.
3. My 359 is my most accurate watch, having gained seven seconds in three weeks.
4. I've never seen a Nautilus in the flesh, never mind tried one on.
5. I've heard of the scary short service intervals for PP and the time taken to do the job.
6. I'd leave the Nautilus behind in a zombie apocalypse.
7. Whilst my Daytona is special because it was my first and I picked it up on my 47th birthday, I would keep the LVc over it. My LVc is my zombie apocalypse watch.

On the basis of the above, I'm probably better off saving for a few years and adding the Nautilus while keeping what I have.

Thanks for your views, guys

Smart move Paul.

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Hmmmm, seems like the majority view is a resounding 'no'.

To answer questions generally:

1. My Panerais are going nowhere. I actually prefer them to my Rolexes.
2. My PAM 689 is a boutique only reference limited to only 300 pieces and my 359 is getting more wrist time than anything else at the moment.
3. My 359 is my most accurate watch, having gained seven seconds in three weeks.
4. I've never seen a Nautilus in the flesh, never mind tried one on.
5. I've heard of the scary short service intervals for PP and the time taken to do the job.
6. I'd leave the Nautilus behind in a zombie apocalypse.
7. Whilst my Daytona is special because it was my first and I picked it up on my 47th birthday, I would keep the LVc over it. My LVc is my zombie apocalypse watch.

On the basis of the above, I'm probably better off saving for a few years and adding the Nautilus while keeping what I have.

Thanks for your views, guys

That's the best plan.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Hmmmm, seems like the majority view is a resounding 'no'.

To answer questions generally:

1. My Panerais are going nowhere. I actually prefer them to my Rolexes.
2. My PAM 689 is a boutique only reference limited to only 300 pieces and my 359 is getting more wrist time than anything else at the moment.
3. My 359 is my most accurate watch, having gained seven seconds in three weeks.
4. I've never seen a Nautilus in the flesh, never mind tried one on.
5. I've heard of the scary short service intervals for PP and the time taken to do the job.
6. I'd leave the Nautilus behind in a zombie apocalypse.
7. Whilst my Daytona is special because it was my first and I picked it up on my 47th birthday, I would keep the LVc over it. My LVc is my zombie apocalypse watch.

On the basis of the above, I'm probably better off saving for a few years and adding the Nautilus while keeping what I have.

Thanks for your views, guys

Before anything else, rectify this...

You might try it on and hate it....

or you might love it so much it changes everything.

You won't know until you know...

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Before anything else, rectify this...

You might try it on and hate it....

or you might love it so much it changes everything.

You won't know until you know...

Yes, I didn't see this, all the forum talk in the world will fall as if to nought when the watch is upon your wrist, only then will you really know what to do.

[Maiden]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Hmmmm, seems like the majority view is a resounding 'no'.

To answer questions generally:

1. My Panerais are going nowhere. I actually prefer them to my Rolexes.
2. My PAM 689 is a boutique only reference limited to only 300 pieces and my 359 is getting more wrist time than anything else at the moment.
3. My 359 is my most accurate watch, having gained seven seconds in three weeks.
4. I've never seen a Nautilus in the flesh, never mind tried one on.
5. I've heard of the scary short service intervals for PP and the time taken to do the job.
6. I'd leave the Nautilus behind in a zombie apocalypse.
7. Whilst my Daytona is special because it was my first and I picked it up on my 47th birthday, I would keep the LVc over it. My LVc is my zombie apocalypse watch.

On the basis of the above, I'm probably better off saving for a few years and adding the Nautilus while keeping what I have.

Thanks for your views, guys

Good move and while you are at it, find a way to actually try on the Nautilus, I did and all I will say is my opinion is 180 degrees of what it was before seeing it live. Don't risk 3 watches without trying the Nautilus!

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by Maiden

...my opinion is 180 degrees of what it was before seeing it live.

Mine too. I thought it looked ridiculous until I tried one (5712) on, then it was all over. I'm happy to see the prices going north, not that I'm selling.

[dr35mm]

Originally Posted by ap1

One pam, one Rolex, cash - that's how you get your 5711.

This!

PAM, Daytona and Nautilus. and drop that mic.

[subtona]

No

[Cru Jones]

If you want a blue watch, just hunt down that 690 you passed on!

More seriously, I'm not against this trade, but I think it's really important to try on the 5711 before flipping three watches for one.

If it were just the BLNR and D-blue plus cash, I'd say flip away, though. Plus, the cash outlay would be in the same range as your other watches, which could maybe make things okay with Mrs. Van D? ;-)

Last but not least, have you considered the new Laureato line from GP? A really elegant sports watch, the design of which is from the same era as the 5711. The price at 11k-ish is reasonable (considering what you get), and there's a 42mm version that could fit you well. You could do this one and only flip one plus a little cash. The blue is iconic, though I found myself drawn to the grey.