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thewatching · 28 May 2017, 12:22 AM

I've been progressively moving up the food chain since getting bit by the watch bug and recently purchased a PAM 510 from my local AD. It was my first luxury piece and certainly the most expensive to-date. I've never owned a Rolex and at the time I picked up the PAM I was considering either it or the SubC date, ultimately going with the PAM as it had been a desire for a long while and at the time felt the look better fit my style (I've always considered myself more on the raw/edgy side as opposed to reserved/classy).

Fast forward a few months and now the Sub is keeping me up at night–something about it's timeless appeal. I also struggle with strap fit throughout the day and love the idea of the glide-lock clasp. Ugh. Im also romanticized by and very seriously considering going down the 1-watch road, mostly because I'm growing tired of the dissonance I feel when choosing which to wear each morning. Im not sure I could do it with the PAM as it lacks a date and isn't as versatile imo. I'm very close to trading it in + cash to acquire a new Sub, taking a decent hit on the PAM, and I can't justify financially having both. While I don't buy watches as an investment, something tells me the Sub will treat me kinder in this regard and will end up something I'm more likely to pass on some day.

Realizing this is a Rolex forum, should I do it? Also, for folks that work on a computer all day, does the glide-lock clasp thickness bother your wrist while typing for long periods? I have some thick straps for my PAM that can get painful over time.

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Robs · 28 May 2017, 01:02 AM

Do it. You won't regret it!

sco · 28 May 2017, 01:13 AM

The Subc clasp has never gotten in my way in three years of wear. Go for it, it's an amazingly versatile piece that will last practically forever.

Zyfon · 28 May 2017, 01:14 AM

I started with a 114060 No Date Sub C. Switched to a Pam 504, then 312. Even though i love the Pams, I miss the versatility of a SS Rolex. Finally sold the others and got myself a Hulk. Couldn't be happier.

By the way, I've never had a problem with the glidelock clasp catching on anything personally. Mine is a daily wear at the office.

sea-dweller · 28 May 2017, 02:06 AM

I would!

Daryl · 28 May 2017, 02:08 AM

go for it.

ap1 · 28 May 2017, 02:12 AM

Like yesterday

brandrea · 28 May 2017, 02:16 AM

You have our approval

FTX I · 28 May 2017, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

You have our approval

PrinceT · 28 May 2017, 02:41 AM

Oh yes! You're in the right forum! Hehe

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AS1 · 28 May 2017, 02:42 AM

lol asking in this forum... pretty sure which way the answers are going to go.

And1dre · 28 May 2017, 02:44 AM

Sounds like you like the Sub more. Do it!

sutats · 28 May 2017, 02:56 AM

Give the Submariner a try and see how it goes. You can always trade back again if you're unhappy. The fun of Panerais is the slew of customisable exotic watch straps out there to dress up or down any model.

nick c · 28 May 2017, 03:14 AM

If it was me keep the Pam and save for the SubC

nick c · 28 May 2017, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

No, I would save & add. Panerai and Rolex make for a great pairing, especially given their shared history. You'll find that many of those here urging you to trade the Panerai don't like the brand, so you'll be getting biased opinions.

Well said

aes7.5x55 · 28 May 2017, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nick c

If it was me keep the Pam and save for the SubC

I agree with this.

nick c · 28 May 2017, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiboy

I find that Pan crown guard signature look very, very off-putting. So I would say swap it for *anything.* lol

Watch mistakes can be kind of expensive. What do you think will make you happy years down the road?

I agree with you, it's costing me lots of money

but I like them

rolexnub · 28 May 2017, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nick c

I agree with you, it's costing me lots of money

but I like them

Very nice collection of PAMs Nick.

Ryuden · 28 May 2017, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nick c

Wow!!! The 201A NM Logo is just full of awesomeness...Love it.

Psmith · 28 May 2017, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nick c

I agree with you, it's costing me lots of money

but I like them

Great collection Nick

superbry · 28 May 2017, 03:12 AM

yes, do it! :P

Pmt2 · 28 May 2017, 03:13 AM

I would

Psmith · 28 May 2017, 03:14 AM

No, I would save & add. Panerai and Rolex make for a great pairing, especially given their shared history. You'll find that many of those here urging you to trade the Panerai don't like the brand, so you'll be getting biased opinions.

The 510 is a very nice piece and gives you the option of enjoying different straps and buckles.

lovetherolex · 29 May 2017, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

No, I would save & add. Panerai and Rolex make for a great pairing, especially given their shared history. You'll find that many of those here urging you to trade the Panerai don't like the brand, so you'll be getting biased opinions.

Agreed. And depending on whether you bight used, new, got a large discount or didn't, you will likely take a bath on the PAM. Frankly I don't think it's worth dumping for what you'll pull out of it. Even if the Sub becomes your daily your PAM will be a nice change from time to time, my guess is that you'll appreciate it more as a contrast.

Ruud Van Driver · 2 June 2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Psmith

No, I would save & add. Panerai and Rolex make for a great pairing, especially given their shared history. You'll find that many of those here urging you to trade the Panerai don't like the brand, so you'll be getting biased opinions.

The 510 is a very nice piece and gives you the option of enjoying different straps and buckles.

Agree with this 100%

Why take a massive hit on the 510 if you don't need to? Do you have any other pieces that you could trade for the Sub instead? I love my Sub but I love my PAMs too

mikester · 28 May 2017, 03:21 AM

I'd make that trade!

Chiboy · 28 May 2017, 03:21 AM

I find that Pan crown guard signature look very, very off-putting. So I would say swap it for *anything.* lol

Watch mistakes can be kind of expensive. What do you think will make you happy years down the road?

mschafer · 28 May 2017, 03:26 AM

I would suggest that both watches are very different and need to be worn to appreciate that. Coming from a Pam I would think the Sub feels very different. It overall I would totally do that. And also, consider an older version as well. Different character, maybe a 5 digit SD etc...

presario · 28 May 2017, 04:05 AM

The PAM is nice, but if it's your only piece, I'd move the PAM for the SubC in a heartbeat. Half a heartbeat.

raulBR · 28 May 2017, 04:07 AM

No, but for a SD43? SURE!!!

28 May 2017, 12:22 AM	#1
thewatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Lafayette, CO Watch: PAM510, SKX007 Posts: 26	Should I trade my PAM for a SubC? I've been progressively moving up the food chain since getting bit by the watch bug and recently purchased a PAM 510 from my local AD. It was my first luxury piece and certainly the most expensive to-date. I've never owned a Rolex and at the time I picked up the PAM I was considering either it or the SubC date, ultimately going with the PAM as it had been a desire for a long while and at the time felt the look better fit my style (I've always considered myself more on the raw/edgy side as opposed to reserved/classy). Fast forward a few months and now the Sub is keeping me up at night–something about it's timeless appeal. I also struggle with strap fit throughout the day and love the idea of the glide-lock clasp. Ugh. Im also romanticized by and very seriously considering going down the 1-watch road, mostly because I'm growing tired of the dissonance I feel when choosing which to wear each morning. Im not sure I could do it with the PAM as it lacks a date and isn't as versatile imo. I'm very close to trading it in + cash to acquire a new Sub, taking a decent hit on the PAM, and I can't justify financially having both. While I don't buy watches as an investment, something tells me the Sub will treat me kinder in this regard and will end up something I'm more likely to pass on some day. Realizing this is a Rolex forum, should I do it? Also, for folks that work on a computer all day, does the glide-lock clasp thickness bother your wrist while typing for long periods? I have some thick straps for my PAM that can get painful over time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 May 2017, 01:02 AM	#2
Robs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Roberto Location: Jupiter / Cozumel Watch: Sub Bluesy Posts: 1,407	Do it. You won't regret it! __________________ Do good. And good will come to you

28 May 2017, 02:06 AM	#5
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I would! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

28 May 2017, 02:08 AM	#6
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28 May 2017, 02:56 AM	#13
sutats "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 1,225	Give the Submariner a try and see how it goes. You can always trade back again if you're unhappy. The fun of Panerais is the slew of customisable exotic watch straps out there to dress up or down any model. __________________ There's no such thing as a Submariner No Date, it's simply Submariner. You don't call a Porsche 911 Turbo, a Porsche 911 Turbo No S. www.instagram.com/sutatshorology Post Your Rolex/Tudor Watch Weight (PYRTWW)

28 May 2017, 01:13 AM	#3
sco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Chicago Watch: Subc AT 8500 CSO Posts: 3,646	The Subc clasp has never gotten in my way in three years of wear. Go for it, it's an amazingly versatile piece that will last practically forever.

28 May 2017, 01:14 AM	#4
Zyfon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Thailand Watch: Rolex & Panerai Posts: 440	I started with a 114060 No Date Sub C. Switched to a Pam 504, then 312. Even though i love the Pams, I miss the versatility of a SS Rolex. Finally sold the others and got myself a Hulk. Couldn't be happier. By the way, I've never had a problem with the glidelock clasp catching on anything personally. Mine is a daily wear at the office.

28 May 2017, 02:12 AM	#7
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,524	Like yesterday

28 May 2017, 02:16 AM	#8
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 77,895	You have our approval

28 May 2017, 02:41 AM	#10
PrinceT "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: One Degree North Posts: 340	Oh yes! You're in the right forum! Hehe Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 May 2017, 02:42 AM	#11
AS1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NYC / Milan Watch: 6263 Posts: 3,938	lol asking in this forum... pretty sure which way the answers are going to go.

28 May 2017, 02:44 AM	#12
And1dre "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Silicon Valley Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,182	Sounds like you like the Sub more. Do it!

28 May 2017, 03:14 AM	#14
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	If it was me keep the Pam and save for the SubC

28 May 2017, 03:12 AM	#21
superbry Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: HKG Watch: Rolex, Panerai Posts: 223	yes, do it! :P

28 May 2017, 03:13 AM	#22
Pmt2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,145	I would

28 May 2017, 03:14 AM	#23
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	No, I would save & add. Panerai and Rolex make for a great pairing, especially given their shared history. You'll find that many of those here urging you to trade the Panerai don't like the brand, so you'll be getting biased opinions. The 510 is a very nice piece and gives you the option of enjoying different straps and buckles. __________________

28 May 2017, 03:21 AM	#26
mikester 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,354	I'd make that trade!

28 May 2017, 03:21 AM	#27
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,568	I find that Pan crown guard signature look very, very off-putting. So I would say swap it for anything. lol Watch mistakes can be kind of expensive. What do you think will make you happy years down the road? __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

28 May 2017, 03:26 AM	#28
mschafer "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New York Posts: 976	I would suggest that both watches are very different and need to be worn to appreciate that. Coming from a Pam I would think the Sub feels very different. It overall I would totally do that. And also, consider an older version as well. Different character, maybe a 5 digit SD etc...

28 May 2017, 04:05 AM	#29
presario "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Andrew Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,428	The PAM is nice, but if it's your only piece, I'd move the PAM for the SubC in a heartbeat. Half a heartbeat. __________________

28 May 2017, 04:07 AM	#30
raulBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Brazil Posts: 27	No, but for a SD43? SURE!!!

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