Sudden demand on previous daytonas?

[tough]

Has anyone noticed this?
Seems like previous Zenith Daytonas have picked up very quickly.
Far less available today than just earlier this year, and far more expensive.

I always felt that they were undervalued, however now wish I picked one up when they were more affordable.

Such is life with vintage rolex!

[harry in montreal]

I was offered my buddy's 2002 black never worn b&p back in 2009 for c$6200

[R.W.T.]

I like the brushed lugs better but I'm not sure I like the movement as well as the 4130. If you don't fix it yourself RSC charges more and it takes longer to do the 4030 and you know....they'll obsolete it.

Cool watch...I've just never been much of a fan of the steel second and third generation Daytona because the dial is fairly uninteresting and you have exactly 2 choices...white with black plots or black with white plots.

I like the new ceramic bezel because it's a bit more of a throwback.

They could offer some cool retro dials...but they don't have to...they are backordered into eternity as it is...they will sell every one they make.

[KarlFr]

Daytona hype time again
Maybe Daytonas is an acquired taste, for me my eyes weren't good enough to read the dials easy and the versions before that draw me crazy since I don´t like to wind watches

[1William]

The watches are out there but like many items the dealers and speculators are driving the market and buying inventory. At some point, I guess when the Daytona-C hype dies down, we will see a market correction. I think that there are so many great watches in the market that I will never get pulled into the hype.

[Sky21]

Speculation at its finest, nobody wants to miss out on the never ending value increases. Will there be a correction at some point, probably but until then these will continue to rise as there are no more being made and the Rolex marketing machine is brilliant at continuing to increase demand.

[motoikkyu]

Well, Mr. Taylor, there is actually one more dial available, but they're not easy to find. I love my Zenith Daytona, it's one that I plan on keeping. I happened to be wearing it today, so here's poor photo:

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by motoikkyu

Well, Mr. Taylor, there is actually one more dial available, but they're not easy to find. I love my Zenith Daytona, it's one that I plan on keeping. I happened to be wearing it today, so here's poor photo:

Isn't that dial for gold watches?

[TheRolexKingofLV]

Originally Posted by motoikkyu

Well, Mr. Taylor, there is actually one more dial available, but they're not easy to find. I love my Zenith Daytona, it's one that I plan on keeping. I happened to be wearing it today, so here's poor photo:

Originally Posted by breitlings

Isn't that dial for gold watches?

I may be wrong, but that dial never came on a 16520 SS Zenith. The red hands didn't come along until much later in the game as well (6 digit references)

Not sure what you have there Motoikkyu

[jdmi32]

Crazy prices for a watch that I don't consider to be all that rare, but current demand is sky high. No coincidence that the jump in prices came after the introduction of the ceramic Daytona.

[fmc000]

Correct, dial and hands are not from a 16520. The dial is from a 16509 and the hands from a 116519.

And the pushers are unscrewed, BTW.

[David cote]

Originally Posted by fmc000

Correct, dial and hands are not from a 16520. The dial is from a 16509 and the hands from a 116519.

And the pushers are unscrewed, BTW.

You know Paul Newman use to leave his pusher unscrewed on his 6263 because he thought it was annoying to him that he had to unscrew them to start them, he did this with the main crown also for winding.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[JustinRolex]

Originally Posted by David cote

You know Paul Newman use to leave his pusher unscrewed on his 6263 because he thought it was annoying to him that he had to unscrew them to start them, he did this with the main crown also for winding.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Maybe but the pushers but who leaves a crown open lol

[LnL]

Originally Posted by tough

Has anyone noticed this?
Seems like previous Zenith Daytonas have picked up very quickly.
Far less available today than just earlier this year, and far more expensive.

I always felt that they were undervalued, however now wish I picked one up when they were more affordable.

Such is life with vintage rolex!

I hope you are right, I've been considering selling my two-tone A series!

[Mersey]

I should have joined this forum sooner. I have a mint D series white face. Would that be a Zenith movement?

[David cote]

Originally Posted by Mersey

I should have joined this forum sooner. I have a mint D series white face. Would that be a Zenith movement?

Yea no, You have a in-house 116520 cal.4130 Daytona there.

A SS Zenith Daytona is ref: 16520

[Mersey]

Originally Posted by David cote

Yea no, You have a in-house 116520 cal.4130 Daytona there.

A SS Zenith Daytona is ref: 16520

Thanks, I checked as well.

[roh123]

Only me thinking the current price peak is due to the second hand prices for the 'hard to get' new ceramic one. Once availabilty for that one goes to normal I doubt the old version will sell for more than the retail price for the ceramic one.

[David cote]

Originally Posted by roh123

Only me thinking the current price peak is due to the second hand prices for the 'hard to get' new ceramic one. Once availabilty for that one goes to normal I doubt the old version will sell for more than the retail price for the ceramic one.

Kinda doubt that older Daytona's are going to soften, Just look at the plastic Daytona's. ref 6263,6265 Non-Newmans. there in the $65K-$75k mark. We will look back and see these could go in the $20k range for awhile and could see them go further.

Floating dial 16520's are already fetching huge numbers. And its just going to gain in value the more there collectable.

:b anghead:

[roh123]

Originally Posted by David cote

Kinda doubt that older Daytona's are going to soften, Just look at the plastic Daytona's. ref 6263,6265 Non-Newmans. there in the $65K-$75k mark. We will look back and see these could go in the $20k range for awhile and could see them go further.

Floating dial 16520's are already fetching huge numbers. And its just going to gain in value the more there collectable.

:b anghead:

I don't see the comparison but each to their own. I understand that Patrizzis and porcelain dials fetch good prices but those that now sell slightly under the second hand price for the new ceramic daytona will probably follow the ceramic version down when supply meets demand. I have difficulty seeing the normal older models to sell above the new one moving forward.

I'm obviously more into vintage and for me the automatic daytonas are still modern. The earlier ones are just old, new watches. Perhaps I'm wrong. Who knows? It will be interesting to see what happens to the common pure steel daytonas when the ceramic version doesn't command a premium.

[raclaims]

I bought my white faced Zenith Daytona new in 1998...what are they selling for now? (I paid $6,600 back then)

[dadonn2]

Originally Posted by raclaims

I bought my white faced Zenith Daytona new in 1998...what are they selling for now? (I paid $6,600 back then)

2 to 3 times what you paid for it new. You've done well! I've been thinking about selling mine as I just don't wear it. Thus far, this hobby has only cost me money and although I paid quite a bit more than you, I'll actually make a small profit on this. That said, it's all going back into watches.

[Mick P]

Chaps

The 16520 is sought after because it had just a 12 year run and supply was tight. A waiting list of 2 years was the norm. Also there were a few variations such as the inverted 6 and SELs etc. The result being that they are now highly collectible.

I have a 16520 and it does look good but the simple reality is that the 116520 is a much better watch. The pushers are hard too push whereas the 116520 pushers are as smooth as silk. Also be prepared to gulp for air when you take it to Rolex for a service. It is £850 in the UK for just the basic service and parts are not exactly cheap.

I have 5 Rolex and the 16520 is the least worn because the others are all so much better in their own way.

I think to be honest, Rolex have pulled a blinder with the hype they have created over the Daytona.

Regards

Mick

[ratty]

Originally Posted by Mick P

Chaps

The 16520 is sought after because it had just a 12 year run and supply was tight. A waiting list of 2 years was the norm. Also there were a few variations such as the inverted 6 and SELs etc. The result being that they are now highly collectible.

I have a 16520 and it does look good but the simple reality is that the 116520 is a much better watch. The pushers are hard too push whereas the 116520 pushers are as smooth as silk. Also be prepared to gulp for air when you take it to Rolex for a service. It is £850 in the UK for just the basic service and parts are not exactly cheap.

I have 5 Rolex and the 16520 is the least worn because the others are all so much better in their own way.

I think to be honest, Rolex have pulled a blinder with the hype they have created over the Daytona.

Regards

Mick

Which year is your's Mick and is it a black or while dial?

[Mick P]

Originally Posted by ratty

Which year is your's Mick and is it a black or while dial?

Hi Ratty

It is a P series which makes it year 2000. It is one of the last with a SEL and PCL's. It is a white dial which was what I wanted. It took me several months to find it after months of research. I sometimes wonder if vintage collectors prefer the hunt to the actual wearing of it.

Regards

Mick

[motoikkyu]

Yes, my dial is off the white-gold version: I liked the Arabic numbers. The hands are far worse than that, they are (shudder!) aftermarket. I have all the original components in the safe-deposit box. It's not a radical modification but I won't defend it: it's just the way I like to wear it. Oh, I actually use the pushers at work, so....

[U5512]

I am not surprised at all on the rise in the prices for Zenith Daytonas. A quick search on the internet shows the Zenith Daytona has the shortest production run of all Daytonas. Rolex has been using the manual wind Valjoux movement since 1955, but let's just focus on the production years when Rolex produced the chronograph with the name "Daytona" on the dial.

1965 - 1987 ....22 years production with Vajoux 72
1988 - 2000.....12 years production with Zenith movement
2000 - current....17 years and counting with in-house movement

The Zenith Daytona has the shortest production run of them all and supply is limited, and I would grab one or two NOW before the prices get way out of hand!!!

[David cote]

Originally Posted by U5512

I am not surprised at all on the rise in the prices for Zenith Daytonas. A quick search on the internet shows the Zenith Daytona has the shortest production run of all Daytonas. Rolex has been using the manual wind Valjoux movement since 1955, but let's just focus on the production years when Rolex produced the chronograph with the name "Daytona" on the dial.

1965 - 1987 ....22 years production with Vajoux 72
1988 - 2000.....12 years production with Zenith movement
2000 - current....17 years and counting with in-house movement

The Zenith Daytona has the shortest production run of them all and supply is limited, and I would grab one or two NOW before the prices get way out of hand!!!

I frankly don't understand why they are not more money!!

[raclaims]

I remember when I got mine it was a real unicorn...they were impossible to get back then.

[landroverking]

I had a 1983 vintage Daytona. Now have have a 1998 Zenith Daytona.
Still miss the old one.
Maybe some day. For now happy to have a Zenith.