Everose Gold Changing Color

[CrazyMD]

Anyone have experience with Rolex everose gold changing color? My friend has a Daytona he got a few years ago. Rose gold. Compared to mine, the color has clearly changed. It looks like a very faded rose gold. Almost like a weird yellow gold color. It's very clearly different color.

We took it to RSC and at first they said the color had not changed. Then I pulled my watch out for comparison and all of a sudden the song and dance came out.

They basically said they would polish it and service it and that the color would come back. I don't see how that will happen. I'm now worried the same thing will happen to my watch over time.








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[imperio]

Originally Posted by CrazyMD

They basically said they would polish it and service it and that the color would come back.

At their cost?




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[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by imperio

At their cost?




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Nope. Cost of service. I told him if the color doesn't come back to just sue Rolex for false advertising. That's what I would do if my $40k rose gold watch that's advertised to stay rose gold changes color.


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[116500LN]

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by 116500LN

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

Ha. Ive never made that connection, seems obvious now. Ever-Rose

Sounds like a case for the relevant advertising standards authority

[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by 116500LN

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

Me too. That's why I'm asking.


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[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by 116500LN

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by 116500LN

I thought the whole point of the Everose meme branding was because it stayed forever rose-colored.

Maybe they misspelled “Neverose”

Haha jk

[SpyShops718]

I went to my dads (72 years) house last summer with my rose gold presidential and he told me that I have a nice watch and that he never knew Rolexes come in copper.

[Tangier11]

Originally Posted by SpyShops718

I went to my dads (72 years) house last summer with my rose gold presidential and he told me that I have a nice watch and that he never knew Rolexes come in copper.

That is what is keeping me from one.

[Lol-x]

Interesting.....
I'm not really sure what is going on...
Maybe the scratches in the metal make it look lighter in colour.
At least the Rose Gold is not going darker i.e. tarnishing, then one might be forgiven for thinking it was copper
I haven't had a Rose Gold watch long enough to be able to say that I have experienced a change of colour.
I don't think the metals used by Rolex to make the Rose Gold are light sensitive.
So, I'm kind of unsure what might be happening here as this is the first case I've come across.

[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Interesting.....
I'm not really sure what is going on...
Maybe the scratches in the metal make it look lighter in colour.
At least the Rose Gold is not going darker i.e. tarnishing, then one might be forgiven for thinking it was copper
I haven't had a Rose Gold watch long enough to be able to say that I have experienced a change of colour.
I don't think the metals used by Rolex to make the Rose Gold are light sensitive.
So, I'm kind of unsure what might be happening here as this is the first case I've come across.

It's definitely not the scratches. The gold is very faded. The pictures don't show it as well... but to the eye it is CLEARLY faded. It's a weird color that I can't even explain...the watch just looks terrible.

Also. It was worn daily and never taken off the wrist. Used in pools, ocean, sun, etc.


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[GMT Aviator]

Maybe Rolex have changed the blend of copper to gold mix in your watch, making it more 'rose' like.
I find it impossible to believe any rose gold alloy will fade.

[peterpl]

Why dont you post a shot of this and your newish one so we can all see the difference?

Hard to tell without a side by side

[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by peterpl

Why dont you post a shot of this and your newish one so we can all see the difference?

Hard to tell without a side by side

Watch is at RSC now.


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[P2725TMB]

Out of interest is the gold on the inside (protected against wrist) the same colour?

[CrazyMD]

Originally Posted by P2725TMB

Out of interest is the gold on the inside (protected against wrist) the same colour?

Yes


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[TG3N]

There is still a clear rose/copper tint to the gold in each of those photos though, and especially the last one.

I'm not an optical or materials expert, but I suspect it's something to do with the amount of scratches on the gold - look how worn that bracelet is, the polished centre links are almost indiscernible from the brushed/satin links to either side.

Again, I'm not an expert, but as the human eye perceives colour from lightwaves bouncing/reflecting off an object into the eye, then it's sensible that any change in surface texture will have a knock-on effect on how the waves are reflected and the item is then perceived.

I have polished up old bracelets before, where the polished steel has become 'cloudy'/dulled (for want of a better expression) by many, many micro-scratches over the years, and polishing brings that lustre back to life.

As stated already, a look at the (presumably less scratched) inside of the bracelet would be helpful.

I suspect that a polish would restore the look, but at the owner's cost. It's still a lovely & well-used piece, however.

[Andad]

Gold amalgams do tarnish.

[Lol-x]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Gold amalgams do tarnish.

But the claim is not tarnishing, but fading (lightening).

Rose Gold is 18k Gold + Tungston + Copper I think...

[Wahlberg]

No comparison pic? I guess the watch you showed is your friends?

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

But the claim is not tarnishing, but fading (lightening).

Rose Gold is 18k Gold + Tungston + Copper I think...

Hi Steve,

More likely 75% gold, 22.5% copper, 2.5% silver but the exact mix used by Rolex is unknown.

The copper and the silver in the mix will oxidise and change the surface colour.

The colour change depends on the mix.

A light polish with a silver polishing cloth should bring it back to its original colour.

Whatever that was?

[Quailhunter]

Copper is a very reactive metal. I'd ask a specialist if it is possible the copper in the gold alloy has reacted to something and changed color.

[meganfox17]

There is a simple logical explanation to the mystery of the fading Everose Gold Daytona

My impression is that Rolex is now using a new and improved Everose Gold -Platinum-Copper alloy formula with slightly different %%% in chemical composition.The older ones had fading issues but developed a "pretty pinkish patina" the newer models are perhaps bullet-proof against the ravages of time....

Top Photo : Lt DD Old vs Rt New
Bottom photo : Faded DD

[Otto]

Originally Posted by meganfox17

There is a simple logical explanation to the mystery of the fading Everose Gold Daytona

My impression is that Rolex is now using a new and improved Everose Gold -Platinum-Copper alloy formula with slightly different %%% in chemical composition.The older ones had fading issues but developed a "pretty pinkish patina" the newer models are perhaps bullet-proof against the ravages of time....

Top Photo : Lt DD Old vs Rt New
Bottom photo : Faded DD

Just as a personal observation, I briefly owned a rose gold Day-Date 118205 well over ten years ago. My wife didn't like it on me because she said it was too pink for my complexion. Interestingly, however, in most light it looked like a yellow gold watch with a champagne tint at best. At some point in recent years, however, I have noticed the Everose models have become, to my eye at least, a very bright pink color, almost red in darker conditions.

[joli160]

If my everose SkyD is going to play this trick on me I will get rid of it

[kilyung]

It's not difficult to explain. Rolex changes the composition of its gold from time to time and the color can also be slightly different from batch to batch - they don't make their gold all at once. Furthermore the surface of an alloy can oxidize or even look different over time due to wear. IIRC Rolex started producing their gold in house in the early 2000 period. Prior to that it was outsourced. Polishing the watch should restore it to its original color and look.

[dr35mm]

Originally Posted by kilyung

It's not difficult to explain. Rolex changes the composition of its gold from time to time and the color can also be slightly different from batch to batch - they don't make their gold all at once. Furthermore the surface of an alloy can oxidize or even look different over time due to wear. IIRC Rolex started producing their gold in house in the early 2000 period. Prior to that it was outsourced. Polishing the watch should restore it to its original color and look.

This.

Btw, the watch seems heavily worn so I don't think it's a "color change" more like a change in how light plays and bounces off the gold, giving the impression of color change. I'm very sure that polishing the watch lightly will fix it.


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[Mad Hatter]

Originally Posted by kilyung

It's not difficult to explain. Rolex changes the composition of its gold from time to time and the color can also be slightly different from batch to batch - they don't make their gold all at once. Furthermore the surface of an alloy can oxidize or even look different over time due to wear. IIRC Rolex started producing their gold in house in the early 2000 period. Prior to that it was outsourced. Polishing the watch should restore it to its original color and look.

This is absolutely correct. Nothing and no one, not even the Wizards of Rolex, can stop metal from having slight reactions to all the elements it is exposed to. Oxidation is the biggest factor. Same reason my white gold wedding band fades over time. In that case it's the rhodium used that is reacting to the elements. Older rose gold had different composition that lead to change more quickly. Polish definitely restores. Also an Ionic Cleaner helps a lot if not wanting to do full polish.

[116500LN]

How old is the Daytona? I think Rolex started using the gold mix known as Everose around 2008. Maybe this Daytona is made of regular 18k RG?