1680 Top Hat Crystal Questions...

[Speed]

Hi, I don't make it over here as often...but here's a Vintage Sub-related question.

I was looking at a 1680 ~1979 last night at a semi-local dealer. The well-known Fourtanes...

The Crystal was, well...crystal clear with a bevel round the edge. I believe this means a service Crystal?

Question...Are the original versions with no bevels really hard to come by - or do they exist? Wondering why folks would opt for the bevel variety.

The watch I was eyeing looked great otherwise...except for the price. Wish I had purchased one about 5+ years ago.

[traf]

The beveled edge crystals are original. The flat edge ones are service


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[Speed]

Originally Posted by traf

The beveled edge crystals are original. The flat edge ones are service


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Ah... I see. Thank you.

[TurboWatch]

Originally Posted by traf

The beveled edge crystals are original. The flat edge ones are service


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Sorry, but this statement is incorrect. I've sold quite a few of these on here and VRF. The tall- flat with no bevels are the original top-hat. These came first. The tall - with smaller bevel were the next generation. The ones with prominent bevels were the service.

[stevedssd]

Originally Posted by TurboWatch

Sorry, but this statement is incorrect. I've sold quite a few of these on here and VRF. The tall- flat with no bevels are the original top-hat. These came first. The tall - with smaller bevel were the next generation. The ones with prominent bevels were the service.

Didn't know this, is anyone able to post photo's of all three for comparison, or the non-bevel and larger bevel to compare with the slight bevel in Springers photo's.

[traf]

Originally Posted by TurboWatch

Sorry, but this statement is incorrect. I've sold quite a few of these on here and VRF. The tall- flat with no bevels are the original top-hat. These came first. The tall - with smaller bevel were the next generation. The ones with prominent bevels were the service.

Hmm, everything I’ve seen and read says otherwise.. but I’ll stand corrected if proven otherwise!


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[springer]

There is a very small bevel on the top side of the original Cyclope 127 crystal for the Submariner 1680.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by springer

There is a very small bevel on the top side of the original Cyclope 127 crystal for the Submariner 1680.

Thank you as well...

I believe the crystal I was looking at had a more pronounced bezel.

[springer]

Originally Posted by Speed

Thank you as well...

I believe the crystal I was looking at had a more pronounced bezel.

The service crystals have a much larger bevel at the top.

[Lamone]

I don't know much about the C127, but here are 2 pictures I just took.
I hope this helps.

[Speed]

Uh oh... Maybe this all isn't (crystal) clear?

[emersm]

Original has sharp edges, replacement is beveled.

[omitohud]

This is my supposedly original top hat with sharp 90 degree edge.



I blame it on the autoconnect.

[Loevhagen]

Original 1680 top-hat shot from my former Red Sub:

[stevedssd]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Original 1680 top-hat shot from my former Red Sub:

That is a stunning photo

Great info and the photo of the bevel almost half way down the side is noticeably different to the Loevhagen and Springer ones

[stevedssd]

Half way down what is visible of the crystal when fitted I meant

[Speed]

So... consensus is very slight bezel on original???

[Loevhagen]

Originally Posted by Speed

So... consensus is very slight bezel on original???

Yes. Underpin very slight - and on some older plexi polished with e.g. Polywatch, the very slight bevel might be almost vanished.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Loevhagen

Yes. Underpin very slight - and on some older plexi polished with e.g. Polywatch, the very slight bevel might be almost vanished.

Thanks!

I've learned something today.

[Fredrik]

I tried to take some pictures from my -78 1680. I have the unpolished original, a service crystal from -11 and a service crystal from -17(currently mounted). I never really noticed the tiny bevel on the old service crystal before. I had to angle it a bit to make it show. The original is never polished and has several scratches and a small chip in it. Maybe it had a small bevel and it got rounded throughout the years just by being used? My brother dived with it for many years.

[cajuntiger]

this is the original "top-hat" crystal. The service crystal has a much larger bevel. The original is still available, but quite expensive.

[Alanriordan]

Hi all…where can I buy the original “square” 1680 top hat crystal. The NO bevel kind. Thanks for any direction..

[zapokee]

Mine appears to be the service one. Doesn't really bother me either way - crystals are disposable parts.

And, all together now, "It's a chamfer, not a bevel!"