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Tom808 · 30 January 2018, 07:48 PM

Hi,

Quick question your thoughts...

SS Daytona is to Rolex...

5711/5712 is to PP

???? is to AP

I'm basing it on the fact that the watches are highly sought after, somewhat exclusive, and demands a healthy premium in the grey market.

Thanks!

Chadridv · 30 January 2018, 08:22 PM

Maybe the 15202?

lord91 · 30 January 2018, 08:53 PM

Daytona is to Rolex: its cronograph.

GolfPunk · 30 January 2018, 09:02 PM

Ap = roo

brandrea · 30 January 2018, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadridv

Maybe the 15202?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GolfPunk

Ap = roo

Either works for me

Ci54 · 30 January 2018, 09:45 PM

Daytona is to Rolex as Royal Oak Chronograph is to AP?

1William · 30 January 2018, 09:49 PM

What the Speedmaster is to Omega.

tyler1980 · 30 January 2018, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom808

Hi,

Quick question your thoughts...

SS Daytona is to Rolex...

5711/5712 is to PP

???? is to AP

I'm basing it on the fact that the watches are highly sought after, somewhat exclusive, and demands a healthy premium in the grey market.

Thanks!

you are not comparing flagship models as those are just the hardest to get from each brand. So in that comparison its the SS 15407. Its the only SS watch close to that level of difficulty to acquire from AP.

lapince · 31 January 2018, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1980

you are not comparing flagship models as those are just the hardest to get from each brand. So in that comparison its the SS 15407. Its the only SS watch close to that level of difficulty to acquire from AP.

I think the 15407 is much harder to get than a Daytona, the 15202 is probably a better match

SC11 · 31 January 2018, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapince

I think the 15407 is much harder to get than a Daytona, the 15202 is probably a better match

I’d say it goes 15202-116500-15407 from what I’ve found!

Waited 6 months for the white Daytona, black is due over the next couple of months but I only showed interest in that about 8-9 months back, 15202 I was offered within 2 months and the 15407st well when the gods shine on me

Rachdanon · 30 January 2018, 11:37 PM

15202 or any blue dial RO. I don't really get the stickiness with blue....

GB-man · 30 January 2018, 11:55 PM

They don't have an in house chronograph

singe89 · 31 January 2018, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

They don't have an in house chronograph

They have plenty of in house chronograph just not in their “inexpensive” lines.

I would probably even consider the Schumi Lap Timer in house since AP owns more than 50% of APRP.

Hairdude1 · 1 February 2018, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by singe89

They have plenty of in house chronograph just not in their “inexpensive” lines.

I would probably even consider the Schumi Lap Timer in house since AP owns more than 50% of APRP.

Plus they have slice of RM too

Amiroo · 31 January 2018, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

They don't have an in house chronograph

Love it when someone drops the term "in-house". Remember when Patek Philippe had a Lemania chronograph movement in their 5970s! Ya good times, terrible watch and terrible company, right? (Picks up mic and gives it back to Brian Cranston)

singe89 · 31 January 2018, 05:50 AM

if we are talking watches that are hard to find and pay a premium then the perpetual calendar ceramic would probably qualify. The 15202 is also gaining demand. or the 15305 or 15407 as well.

KBM · 1 February 2018, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

They don't have an in house chronograph

AK797 · 31 January 2018, 12:06 AM

You looking to make some quick cash? Get the AP Royal Crypto.

Xerxes77 · 31 January 2018, 08:50 AM

I think only 15407 is there!!!

GB-man · 31 January 2018, 10:52 AM

Calm down people I was just making a joke. That and my frustration with my DD chrono module that crapped out 1 month into ownership of my ROO.

I would be in a much bigger hurry to go in house if my suppliers modules were troublesome.

Maybe AP should ask papi how to make a chrono. This isn’t rocket science.

Tom808 · 31 January 2018, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadridv

Maybe the 15202?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyler1980

you are not comparing flagship models as those are just the hardest to get from each brand. So in that comparison its the SS 15407. Its the only SS watch close to that level of difficulty to acquire from AP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachdanon

15202 or any blue dial RO. I don't really get the stickiness with blue....

Quote:

Originally Posted by singe89

if we are talking watches that are hard to find and pay a premium then the perpetual calendar ceramic would probably qualify. The 15202 is also gaining demand. or the 15305 or 15407 as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapince

I think the 15407 is much harder to get than a Daytona, the 15202 is probably a better match

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerxes77

I think only 15407 is there!!!

Thank you all for your replies!!!

The reason I ask is that I am getting a bit bored of Rolex & Panerai watches and looking into AP for a change. Just wanted to ask to see what is in demand and figure out what it is about AP that folks love.
It looks like the 15202 and the 15407 are the hard to get AP watches. Not that I am thinking I can get one of the above soon. I currently have a great relationship with the Rolex AD and am offered whatever, but zero w/ AP.
Currently I am looking into a ROO with a rubber strap because it looks different from all the rolexes that I have. I looked at the oysterflex watches but still doesn't quite excite me.

Keep the replies coming!!!

Thanks

Tom

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

You looking to make some quick cash? Get the AP Royal Crypto.

I checked all over the internet and can't seem to find this particular watch. Can you tell me which reference this might be.

mobster600 · 3 February 2018, 01:30 PM

your comparing a chrono with alot of heritage(Rolex Daytona) to a non-chrono Patek with no heritage (5711), until the last 5ish years the 5711 was selling for 20k preowned

For the AP-There is the 26320...but its not a sports watch

Its impossible to compare these across brands...

The daytona dates back to Paul Newman and those can go for 1 million dollars+

What are the criteria to base the comparison on besides popularity?

2Redbulls · 3 February 2018, 01:35 PM

I don't think there's a good AP comparison. 15202 could be one, or if we are allowing references which are no longer made, then I would say the AP ROO Ceramic Diver.

Tom808 · 3 February 2018, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobster600

your comparing a chrono with alot of heritage(Rolex Daytona) to a non-chrono Patek with no heritage (5711), until the last 5ish years the 5711 was selling for 20k preowned

For the AP-There is the 26320...but its not a sports watch

Its impossible to compare these across brands...

The daytona dates back to Paul Newman and those can go for 1 million dollars+

What are the criteria to base the comparison on besides popularity?

Please read my post again below.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom808

Quick question your thoughts...

SS Daytona is to Rolex...

5711/5712 is to PP

???? is to AP

I'm basing it on the fact that the watches are highly sought after, somewhat exclusive, and demands a healthy premium in the grey market.

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Redbulls

I don't think there's a good AP comparison. 15202 could be one, or if we are allowing references which are no longer made, then I would say the AP ROO Ceramic Diver.

Just looking at the current line up. Yes the 15202 is gorgeous!!!

Thanks for all your replies.

Tom

mobster600 · 5 February 2018, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom808

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Please read my post again below.

Thanks!

Just looking at the current line up. Yes the 15202 is gorgeous!!!

Thanks for all your replies.

Tom

In that case, there wouldn’t be one for AP. Buy the Daytona!

Tom808 · 5 February 2018, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobster600

In that case, there wouldn’t be one for AP. Buy the Daytona!

I already have several SS daytonas. I don't think
I need anymore. Also have pretty much every Rolex
Professional line except for the explorer and sea dweller.

RHIII · 4 February 2018, 01:56 AM

For me - I wouldn’t even make that ‘comparison’ and the only two aforementioned reference that are truly comparable (in my mind) are the 5711 and 15202.

Having worn them all including the 116518, 116520, and the 116500 Daytona’s —- a true comparison just doesn’t work. If we are merely highlighting what is ‘hard to get’ or ‘pulls grey market premiums’ comparison — ok, but that is hardly a deterministic factor to assess these references in any way.

Here’s my .02

5711>(or equal - can’t underline sign)15202>any modern Daytona - regardless of hype.

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AK797 · 4 February 2018, 01:56 AM

If we are not talking about money, then the 15202, 5711 and Sub are the comparators for each brand, but as Roger says the Rolex is in a different league.

GB-man · 5 February 2018, 04:34 PM

In that case you’re seeking the ceramic PC and 15407ST.

30 January 2018, 07:48 PM	#1
Tom808 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: USA Posts: 121	Daytona is to Rolex... Hi, Quick question your thoughts... SS Daytona is to Rolex... 5711/5712 is to PP ???? is to AP I'm basing it on the fact that the watches are highly sought after, somewhat exclusive, and demands a healthy premium in the grey market. Thanks!

30 January 2018, 08:22 PM	#2
Chadridv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chadri Location: LI, NY Watch: 116610LV Posts: 11,358	Maybe the 15202? __________________ - i͞n͟s͞t͟a͞g͞r͟a͞m͞ @ⓒⓄⓁⒹⓒⒶⓈⒺⓦⒶⒶⓉⒸⒽⒺⓈ

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GolfPunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: UK Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 4,398	Ap = roo __________________ ♕ Rolex Daytona White Gold 116509 (Ghost) ♕

30 January 2018, 09:45 PM	#6
Ci54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Jeddah Watch: SS Sky Dweller Posts: 189	Daytona is to Rolex as Royal Oak Chronograph is to AP? __________________ Day-Date 18239, Daytona 116523, Breitling B1, Submariner 16610 LV Kermit, Polar Explorer ll 16570, 126600 SD 43, 126710 BLRO Pepsi, SS Sky Dweller 326934.

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GB-man 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,621	They don't have an in house chronograph __________________

30 January 2018, 08:53 PM	#3
lord91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Bucuresti Watch: a Rolex duo Posts: 2,076	Daytona is to Rolex: its cronograph.

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1William 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 48,588	What the Speedmaster is to Omega.

30 January 2018, 11:37 PM	#11
Rachdanon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Singapore Posts: 266	15202 or any blue dial RO. I don't really get the stickiness with blue....

31 January 2018, 05:50 AM	#16
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,752	if we are talking watches that are hard to find and pay a premium then the perpetual calendar ceramic would probably qualify. The 15202 is also gaining demand. or the 15305 or 15407 as well.

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AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	You looking to make some quick cash? Get the AP Royal Crypto.

31 January 2018, 08:50 AM	#19
Xerxes77 Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Home! Posts: 3,307	I think only 15407 is there!!!

31 January 2018, 10:52 AM	#20
GB-man 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,621	Calm down people I was just making a joke. That and my frustration with my DD chrono module that crapped out 1 month into ownership of my ROO. I would be in a much bigger hurry to go in house if my suppliers modules were troublesome. Maybe AP should ask papi how to make a chrono. This isn’t rocket science. __________________

3 February 2018, 01:30 PM	#22
mobster600 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: Yes Posts: 1,509	your comparing a chrono with alot of heritage(Rolex Daytona) to a non-chrono Patek with no heritage (5711), until the last 5ish years the 5711 was selling for 20k preowned For the AP-There is the 26320...but its not a sports watch Its impossible to compare these across brands... The daytona dates back to Paul Newman and those can go for 1 million dollars+ What are the criteria to base the comparison on besides popularity?

3 February 2018, 01:35 PM	#23
2Redbulls "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Morgan Hill, CA Watch: I give up.. Posts: 719	I don't think there's a good AP comparison. 15202 could be one, or if we are allowing references which are no longer made, then I would say the AP ROO Ceramic Diver.

4 February 2018, 01:56 AM	#27
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	For me - I wouldn’t even make that ‘comparison’ and the only two aforementioned reference that are truly comparable (in my mind) are the 5711 and 15202. Having worn them all including the 116518, 116520, and the 116500 Daytona’s —- a true comparison just doesn’t work. If we are merely highlighting what is ‘hard to get’ or ‘pulls grey market premiums’ comparison — ok, but that is hardly a deterministic factor to assess these references in any way. Here’s my .02 5711>(or equal - can’t underline sign)15202>any modern Daytona - regardless of hype. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5 February 2018, 04:34 PM	#29
GB-man 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,621	In that case you’re seeking the ceramic PC and 15407ST. __________________

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