Should I trade? My 1680 red for a 16520

[avilhena]

So i've been offered to trade my 1680 for a 16520 black dial..


What do you guys think? Should I trade it?

My 1680 is in top condition, with a beautiful and even patina.

I've always wanted a 16520 and they are getting more difficult to get each day

As soon as I receive the pictures of the daytona I'll post it here, but it is said to be unpolished and in mint condition, but we will see about that.

Here's my 1680:

[Karbo]

No wrong choice

[Sjmoore11]

I would not do it as I much prefer the 1680. Yours is a beautiful example.

[Recaro18]

It’s all about preference.. which would you rather have? Only you can answer that question..

[brandrea]

Not for me, not even close.

[agsstructures]

I wouldn't, your 1680 looks mint

[rmlovett1]

It would depend on a couple things for me....what else is in the collection? Or if one and only? I love both of these references....so in thinking one over the other...no way I’d make that trade. Unless there was something still left in the collection that’d fit the niche of vintage you have, or you just simply wanted to go modern. That 1680 is beautiful!

[omitohud]

Don’t do it.


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[CPRWATCH]

Both great references & pretty much the same on paper . But the pictures you've posted of your 1680 , scream don't do it . You may have sellers regret, & will struggle to find another example as clean the one you have now .

[strafer_kid]

Originally Posted by omitohud

Don’t do it.


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Definitely......

[Beelzy]

You'll regret it. The black dialed 16520 is hard to read for one, and you can find one easier
than a beautiful Red like yours.

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by CPRWATCH

Both great references & pretty much the same on paper . But the pictures you've posted of your 1680 , scream don't do it . You may have sellers regret, & will struggle to find another example as clean the one you have now .

Originally Posted by Beelzy

You'll regret it. The black dialed 16520 is hard to read for one, and you can find one easier
than a beautiful Red like yours.

agree with both of these... NO !!!

[Alfasin]

No way, very nice red

[tmo8320]

I agree with the others. Not only no, but HECK NO.

That watch looks as good as something in a museum. No way would I let a piece like that out of my Kung-Fu Action Grip.


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[Kingface66]

Unless you’re 100% sure you’ll someday find Red Sub as nice as this one, absolutely not.

[uncleluck]

Are you mad or both!

[Cheutc]

Keep the red sub and get the daytona too!

[mattedialdoc]

Originally Posted by Cheutc

Keep the red sub and get the daytona too!

Oh my. You must be in the unlimited discretionary income column. He's likely asking bc for most of us these are a big investment.

And no don't do it!! ;-)


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[Rsubnodate]

No I wouldn’t do it

[05carbondrz]

That’s a big negative.

[jdmi32]

It’s an easy no for me. I have a red Sub and a white dial 16520 and if it came to it, the Daytona would be the first to go.

[Aceldama]

I would not. The red 1680 is a classic and versatile as hell.

[Canforfair]

I would do it . But sell the sub to me ....


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[avilhena]

Thank you very much for all the answers. After reading them, my tendency is not to make the trade.

The condition of my submariner is really good, but the daytona that was offered to me is also supposed to be in top condition. In that sense, I would not be trading for a lower quality piece.

Another point that was leading me to consider the trade is the fact that, in my view, the 16520 has more room for appreciation over the years, while I do not know if the 1680 will still appreciate much more. Of course I can be totally mistaken. However, I can not fail to consider the financial aspect involved in this possible trade.

So, thank you all for the answers and as soon as I get the daytona photos tomorrow I'll post on this thread.

[theflywrist]

Originally Posted by avilhena

Thank you very much for all the answers. After reading them, my tendency is not to make the trade.

The condition of my submariner is really good, but the daytona that was offered to me is also supposed to be in top condition. In that sense, I would not be trading for a lower quality piece.

Another point that was leading me to consider the trade is the fact that, in my view, the 16520 has more room for appreciation over the years, while I do not know if the 1680 will still appreciate much more. Of course I can be totally mistaken. However, I can not fail to consider the financial aspect involved in this possible trade.

So, thank you all for the answers and as soon as I get the daytona photos tomorrow I'll post on this thread.

I definitely agree with the rest that have been commenting before me.
Although I do understand that you will not be downgrading on quality/condition, as the zenith is also in good shape, it is worthy to note that it is far easier to find a crispy zenith than a red sub that crispy. Trust me on this one!

The only reason for me to make this trade is if the red sub does not sing to you anymore.

Good luck!

[uncleluck]

Originally Posted by avilhena

Thank you very much for all the answers. After reading them, my tendency is not to make the trade.

The condition of my submariner is really good, but the daytona that was offered to me is also supposed to be in top condition. In that sense, I would not be trading for a lower quality piece.

Another point that was leading me to consider the trade is the fact that, in my view, the 16520 has more room for appreciation over the years, while I do not know if the 1680 will still appreciate much more. Of course I can be totally mistaken. However, I can not fail to consider the financial aspect involved in this possible trade.

So, thank you all for the answers and as soon as I get the daytona photos tomorrow I'll post on this thread.

I was speaking to a friend of mine (who has many expensive classic cars) about my car and future Watch buying in regards to appreciation, he echoed what a lot of ‘successful’ collectors will tell you... forget over thinking the future appreciation.

If you love the item, the chances are many others will (just look at the reaction to the sub) and it’ll be worth what the market dictates.

My feeling is the Daytona will be far easier to pick up for many years. Trying to find a sub like yours will be very hard again. I’d predict a big knot in your stomach letting the sub go!

That said I do think there’s a finite life to this era of vintage, otherwise watches from previous decades would be worth far more. As we know though fashion will change and one day the sub and the Daytona will both look as a bubble back does to most people now. How long is this? Probably when all us vintage sub lovers are dead and pass these on to our children.

In 30 years time this forum will be full of people showing pics of the old Watch they’ve just inherited asking “is this worth anything?” And owners of the latest (remember Rolex always move forward) super wide and bright Rolex will be telling them “yeah it’s an old Submariner, they used to be worth a lot about 30 years ago but nobody wants them now”

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by uncleluck

I was speaking to a friend of mine (who has many expensive classic cars) about my car and future Watch buying in regards to appreciation, he echoed what a lot of ‘successful’ collectors will tell you... forget over thinking the future appreciation.

If you love the item, the chances are many others will (just look at the reaction to the sub) and it’ll be worth what the market dictates.

My feeling is the Daytona will be far easier to pick up for many years. Trying to find a sub like yours will be very hard again. I’d predict a big knot in your stomach letting the sub go!

That said I do think there’s a finite life to this era of vintage, otherwise watches from previous decades would be worth far more. As we know though fashion will change and one day the sub and the Daytona will both look as a bubble back does to most people now. How long is this? Probably when all us vintage sub lovers are dead and pass these on to our children.

In 30 years time this forum will be full of people showing pics of the old Watch they’ve just inherited asking “is this worth anything?” And owners of the latest (remember Rolex always move forward) super wide and bright Rolex will be telling them “yeah it’s an old Submariner, they used to be worth a lot about 30 years ago but nobody wants them now”

So much this! I innerited a beautiful gold pocketwatch made in 1904 that still keeps time -2 seconds per day...and the value of it now is pretty sad. Kids want Apple Watches, not overpriced mechanical baubles.

[Boaters]

I would keep the red it is a beauty!

[AlphaOmega4]

Your watch is Stunning... DO NOT DO IT... just one guys opinion.. but seems to echo many others..

one of the few things I have found in my 37 years is this... Trading for something new often results in regret... adding to .. never a bad thing .. however if you truly don't like your current piece and really have no connection that would be the only time I would truly say consider the trade.. but I think down the road you will regret it.

B/C I don't know the current value.. what can you get for your 1680 ?

[Jfullm42]

No, no, no. Think about which one would be easier to re buy... your 1680 Red is really nice and you'd be hard pressed to find another like it in this current market. You can always find a 16520