Why is this watch (Tudor) going for so much money?

[pierson]

I mean, it needs a ton of work and a (I think) better condition one with work done is only like $2k more...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/401569938123?ul_noapp=true

What am I missing that is so special about this?

[dhknola]

Ha - I am watching this one too. I think it's just a rock solid example of how sought after vintage snow flakes are. I remember a mere few years ago where you could get an excellent condition piece w box and papers for less than this one sold for...PS - it sold for $7100 !

[roh123]

Bezel, crown and tube away from a 12k watch in todays market. Price makes sense.

[jeff hess]

Yeah. Weird. For years I've specialized in watches bought "as found" and from the original owner. As many of you know, there is broad market especially outside the usa for these types of things. This WAS high for sure but not unusual.

I also suspect many dealer/collectors like to mess with these and put after market parts on them to wear them. I abhor that practice. I would rather sell one in "As found" condition and not messed with than put a phony bezel and such on it or even a replacement crown. Seems people either want the perfect... rare..or in original condition. But that's just me. your experience may differ! Cheers! (let's see what the other one does that I bought from the same guy). Thanks!

[roh123]

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Yeah. Weird. For years I've specialized in watches bought "as found" and from the original owner. As many of you know, there is broad market especially outside the usa for these types of things. This WAS high for sure but not unusual.

I also suspect many dealer/collectors like to mess with these and put after market parts on them to wear them. I abhor that practice. I would rather sell one in "As found" condition and not messed with than put a phone bezel and such on it or even a replacement crown. Seems people either want the perfect... rare..or in original condition. But that's just me. you experience may differ! Cheers! (let's see what the other onde does that I bought from the same guy). Thanks!

Someone paying 7k for this will most likely put nice and period correct parts on it. Makes no sense to pay for quality and then ruin it with aftermarket parts. This restored correctly for around 2k and you have a great looking nodate snowflake.

Just finding a nice example for sale is nearly impossible. So yes; this is a project worth while.

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by jeff hess

Yeah. Weird. For years I've specialized in watches bought "as found" and from the original owner. As many of you know, there is broad market especially outside the usa for these types of things. This WAS high for sure but not unusual.

I also suspect many dealer/collectors like to mess with these and put after market parts on them to wear them. I abhor that practice. I would rather sell one in "As found" condition and not messed with than put a phony bezel and such on it or even a replacement crown. Seems people either want the perfect... rare..or in original condition. But that's just me. your experience may differ! Cheers! (let's see what the other one does that I bought from the same guy). Thanks!

You may end up being surprised ; )

Needs a service, crown, tube, Crystal, MK3 insert, and a bezel.

[SAAS]

I was surprised by this as well didn’t realize the Swiss only dials were commanding such a wide premium.

[Gina Marie]

unpolished chase. swiss only dial. What is not to like.

Crown and tube 150ish
bezel 300
insert 1500ish
service 450

2400-2600 is my estimate

7100 plus 2500 is 9600 for a project.

Lots can go wrong here....the movement looked pretty toxic so i think that is likely on the low end.

FMV imho, if all complete is around 10-11k. Little bit of upside here. Getting paid for the risk.

I wish i would have bought it.....but alas you cannot own them all:)

i came across a similar situation last year. I was able to build one for about 5.250 all in. No service needed though. unpolished, swiss only, mark 3 etc. I am glad i did it then.

[offrdmania]

And just a few years ago, the Tudor subs were almost an afterthought that could be had for pennies compared to their Rolex counterparts. They werent cheap but were much more affordable than a comparable Rolex sub. Now they are really starting to creep up into Rolex territory.

[jeff hess]

MAtt,

true. I used to buy them for 200 in the 80's and sell them for 300. But hey, we all used to throw away faded Paul newman dials as they were unsalable. Nast faded things! lolololo
true!

[Wahlberg]

Anyone know why there hasn't been a new bid even though people already bid 32 times in the first few days?

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Anyone know why there hasn't been a new bid even though people already bid 32 times in the first few days?

Smart buyers either bid their absolute true maximum at the beginning so they don’t get caught up in the emotional aspect of auctions... or they snipe with 5 seconds left.

[Wahlberg]

Winning bid 8.300.

[scurfa]

I had to stop myself from bidding too much for this and I have all the bits to fix it, I know I’ll be kicking myself this time next year.

[Gina Marie]

I saw a pic of the dial outside the case. start kicking yourself now.

[linesiders]

Sometimes you find something very nice under the hood

[scurfa]

Originally Posted by linesiders

Sometimes you find something very nice under the hood

Nice one, not many left like that, congratulations!

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by scurfa

Nice one, not many left like that, congratulations!

Yes - this dial is over the top

[mineral]

Originally Posted by scurfa

Nice one, not many left like that, congratulations!

I always notice that the patina on the hour and minute hands are different shade. I noticed this on my first owner 7016 sub as well, very interesting.



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[scurfa]

Originally Posted by mineral

I always notice that the patina on the hour and minute hands are different shade. I noticed this on my first owner 7016 sub as well, very interesting.



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Like this




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[Wahlberg]

I assume the guys at HQMilton bought the watch. I found this on IG, they fixed the rattling thing between the lugs (what's the name again?).

Looks identical, even the pip is missing, links are identical on both sides (4-6).

Ebay picture:







HQMilton

[jeff hess]

Lady brought in the orig bezel and crown! holy crap! (I promised her 2 grand if she could find it... ) and last week she showed up with it! sheesh.

[pierson]

But this went for less....?

https://m.ebay.com/itm/-/32337597826...app-cvip-panel

[Gina Marie]

Service dial vs swiss only flake.

[linesiders]

Jeff Hess - I responded to your email and tried to respond to your PM but your inbox here is full

Originally Posted by Gina Marie

Service dial vs swiss only flake.

Yes, and even with the correct dial the 7928 with no gilt track is the lowest priced out of the 7928 line and would be notably less than a good condition, no date flake any day of the week.

[pierson]

Originally Posted by linesiders

Jeff Hess - I responded to your email and tried to respond to your PM but your inbox here is full






Yes, and even with the correct dial the 7928 with no gilt track is the lowest priced out of the 7928 line and would be notably less than a good condition, no date flake any day of the week.

What do you mean by gilt “track”? Sorry, I’m new to the vernacular