Blacklisted by Rolex

[turborolex]

Has anyone here been notified by Rolex (not an AD) that they were blacklisted? How were you notified? Why were you blacklisted?





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[037]

No.

Were you?

[123Blueface]

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by 037

No.

Were you?

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[turborolex]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

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I wasn’t blacklisted.

It’s seems some forum members believe that if you are identified as a person who is selling a sought after reference, you could be blacklisted by Rolex.

I don’t believe that is true, so I wanted to confirm Rolex does indeed blacklist such individuals




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[exador]

Originally Posted by turborolex

I don’t believe that is true, so I wanted to confirm Rolex does indeed blacklist such individuals.

If it were true (which it isn't), how an earth would Rolex (the company) impose such a blacklist? Find out all your private details and reveal them to every AD on planet Earth?

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by exador

If it were true (which it isn't), how an earth would Rolex (the company) impose such a blacklist? Find out all your private details and reveal them to every AD on planet Earth?

I agree with you 100%

I’m just tired of this blacklist notion showing up when someone what’s to sell their watch.


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[037]

I'm guessing this stems from your post here: https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...0&postcount=63

If so then I don't understand the question being asked since even you yourself don't believe Rolex has the time or care to chase down individuals who sell their watches.

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by 037

I'm guessing this stems from your post here: https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...0&postcount=63

If so then I don't understand the question being asked since even you yourself don't believe Rolex has the time or care to chase down individuals who sell their watches.

That is correct, I don’t believe it at all, and I believe anyone should be able to sell their watch anytime they want without being told by an AD that they will be blacklisted by Rolex if they are identified.

The purpose of the question is to find out if anyone has a actually been blacklisted, or it’s just a myth.



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[037]

Originally Posted by turborolex

That is correct, I don’t believe it at all, and I believe anyone should be able to sell their watch anytime they want without being told by an AD that they will be blacklisted by Rolex if they are identified.

They sell roughly 1M watches per year with roughly 10~20% of those being Professional models in (somewhat) high demand. Tracking 100,000 to 200,000 watches (or 275 to 550 per day) would be impossible.

If an individual had been blacklisted by Rolex SA and completely unable to purchase any watch at any price from any AD worldwide, we'd have heard about it by now. Rolex doesn't even record buyer names when warranty cards are swiped so it doesn't seem possible for them to easily track individuals. Plus, any name can be put on a card since watches are often purchased as gifts.

Once a watch has sold, it's no longer considered Rolex property. A resale contract would be required otherwise.

Blacklisted by an AD, sure, that's certainly possible, but not Rolex. Not yet, anyway.

[mdubya]

Probably inevitable given I’ve heard from multiple ADs that Rolex is now tracking buyer details of sought after watches. Pair that with the recent threads about them tracing back watches that have been flipped to buyers and ADs, I assume at some point they will start implementing a blacklist.

[Brian Page]

I feel we are ALL currently "Black Listed" from Rolex...

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Brian Page

I feel we are ALL currently "Black Listed" from Rolex...

Haha

[Largoshark]

Originally Posted by Brian Page

I feel we are ALL currently "Black Listed" from Rolex...

This...it's truly a no win scenario for the average consumer.

[GTC]

Originally Posted by Largoshark

This...it's truly a no win scenario for the average consumer.

Hypothetical fiction is a no win scenario for the average TRF thread.

[Sarosh]

Originally Posted by Brian Page

I feel we are ALL currently "Black Listed" from Rolex...

Well said! Lol

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by Brian Page

I feel we are ALL currently "Black Listed" from Rolex...

Haha so true.


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[hbombkid]

You will get someone that says it can happen. No one will show proof. You will see lines in this thread like I got a harsh warning etc haha

Please someone prove me wrong and show proof you are blacklisted.

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by hbombkid

You will get someone that says it can happen. No one will show proof. You will see lines in this thread like I got a harsh warning etc haha

Please someone prove me wrong and show proof you are blacklisted.

That’s exactly why I started this thread!

Where is the proof?


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[hbombkid]

Originally Posted by turborolex

That’s exactly why I started this thread!

Where is the proof?


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I hear ya man smart minds think alike

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by hbombkid

I hear ya man smart minds think alike

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[exador]

This reminds me of a mate who used to download movies from the Internet. He was sent a 'cease and desist' letter from Warner Bros. That's piracy though, not legitimate purchasing...

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by exador

This reminds me of a mate who used to download movies from the Internet. He was sent a 'cease and desist' letter from Warner Bros. That's piracy though, not legitimate purchasing...

As you mentioned, that’s piracy.

But getting blacklisted for selling your property?


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[exador]

Originally Posted by turborolex

But getting blacklisted for selling your property?

Well of course there's the well known John Cena case, but that was breaking an explicit contract.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/th...resale-lawsuit

Until Rolex imposes the same criteria when purchasing one of their watches, they have no right to tell you what you can and can't do with YOUR watch.

[Nikrnic]

If this were true, why aren't grey dealers blacklisted ?

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[jcdeng]

Rolex will not blacklist you, its the AD that will blacklist you. And by blacklist it just mean that you won't be on any hot watch wait list anymore even if you were the next in line to get the SS daytona. You can still walk in and buy whatever DJ or PM model they have in the case at the time, but no more getting on the list.

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by jcdeng

Rolex will not blacklist you, its the AD that will blacklist you. And by blacklist it just mean that you won't be on any hot watch wait list anymore even if you were the next in line to get the SS daytona. You can still walk in and buy whatever DJ or PM model they have in the case at the time, but no more getting on the list.

Then you go to the other AD across town


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[jcdeng]

Originally Posted by turborolex

Then you go to the other AD across town


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yes, you then have to build up that "relationship" again to be able to get on certain list...

[turborolex]

Originally Posted by jcdeng

yes, you then have to build up that "relationship" again to be able to get on certain list...

That’s true.

But, my point is, you are not banned from buying a Rolex, by Rolex, as some forums members seem to believe could happen.


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[Easy E]

As odd as this thought may be, has anyone even been asked to show an ID when buying a watch? Silly.