ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

kzou · 11 November 2018, 12:39 PM

Been thinking about acquiring a PCC recently and have narrowed down to these two. Wondering what this forum’s opinions are on them.

The blue dial version of the 5270 looks gorgeous and I like the dial layout better.
The Datograph Perpetual’s movement looks just a bit more refined.

What do you guys think?

Bearxj86 · 11 November 2018, 01:01 PM

5270 here hands down. I would however prefer a 5970 or 3970

thomaspp · 11 November 2018, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearxj86

5270 here hands down. I would however prefer a 5970 or 3970

Lange over 5270 for me but as this wise man has said, lemania patek for the win. Valjoux patek for the hero! Good luck!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

cantdrive55 · 11 November 2018, 02:59 PM

both awesome pieces - no bad news...

ALS DP in platinum is a heavy watch in a good way - feels very substantial...

i have a 5170P with a blue dial, and it can be a bit hard to read in the evening...

tonupbklyn · 11 November 2018, 03:02 PM

the 5270 in salmon is simply sublime.
but the dato perpetual...jaw dropper.

SW1 · 11 November 2018, 04:41 PM

I love the ALS movement but I also believe a watch needs to be functional. based purely on the fact that its near impossible to read the subdials of the Dato, it must be the PP. Whilst the 5270 price is soft the ALS is horrendous. I was offered the Dato (ok a year or so back) at 30% of list by the AD.

AK797 · 11 November 2018, 10:18 PM

Blue 5270 is a fav of mine, the Dato dial I find too cluttered.

mps354 · 12 November 2018, 01:36 AM

Go 5270p and call it a day

soundserious · 12 November 2018, 02:28 AM

Lange is unwearable. Other than that it’s a nice clock.

galtinuk · 12 November 2018, 02:41 AM

With respect, "unwearable" is an exaggeration.

Both watches are 41MM and the Lange is 13.1MM thick vs the Patek 12.4. That is only 0.6MM difference and hardly enough to make a watch go from wearable to unwearable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundserious

Lange is unwearable. Other than that it’s a nice clock.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Jay (Eire) · 12 November 2018, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galtinuk

With respect, "unwearable" is an exaggeration.

Both watches are 41MM and the Lange is 13.1MM thick vs the Patek 12.4. That is only 0.6MM difference and hardly enough to make a watch go from wearable to unwearable.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

I think the Lange is 13.5mm, but I too agree with your point. 1.1mm doesn't make something unwearable. It's tiring to hear this about ALS all the time, even though in some instances I will say the "thickness" comment is valid.

galtinuk · 12 November 2018, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Eire)

I think the Lange is 13.5mm, but I too agree with your point. 1.1mm doesn't make something unwearable. It's tiring to hear this about ALS all the time, even though in some instances I will say the "thickness" comment is valid.

Many default to "Lange is thicker" but for a like for like comparison it is very often not the case. I think part of the mistake is that they compare a Lange watch with more complications to a Patek with less. IE, a Datograph perpetual with big date and a flyback chrono. Or even in this case, the Datograph perpetual which has a flyback and big date to the 5270.

On a like for like basis, the Saxonia Annual Calendar is thinner than all the Patek annual calendar models (despite it having the big date). Also, the 1815 is about the same/slightly thinner than the 5170--despite having a flyback feature.

Jay (Eire) · 12 November 2018, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galtinuk

Many default to "Lange is thicker" but for a like for like comparison it is very often not the case. I think part of the mistake is that they compare a Lange watch with more complications to a Patek with less. IE, a Datograph perpetual with big date and a flyback chrono. Or even in this case, the Datograph perpetual which has a flyback and big date to the 5270.

On a like for like basis, the Saxonia Annual Calendar is thinner than all the Patek annual calendar models (despite it having the big date). Also, the 1815 is about the same/slightly thinner than the 5170--despite having a flyback feature.

Yes, that’s it exactly. It’s also a visual thing I believe as the case shape/construction of ALS even when thinner in diameter can visually look thicker.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

soundserious · 13 November 2018, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Eire)

I think the Lange is 13.5mm, but I too agree with your point. 1.1mm doesn't make something unwearable. It's tiring to hear this about ALS all the time, even though in some instances I will say the "thickness" comment is valid.

Thought it was 14? Anyway, would like to see a side view wrist shot from OP, that should help my position.

Jay (Eire) · 12 November 2018, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundserious

Lange is unwearable. Other than that it’s a nice clock.

What? It's 1.1mm thicker. The diameter is the same at 41mm.

Are you saying the 1.1mm makes it unwearable?

Vaxe · 12 November 2018, 05:41 AM

Definitely 5270.
Dato is chunky and are pretty hard to flip

kzou · 12 November 2018, 07:43 AM

Thanks for all the comments. I think the DP I can definitely get it at a good discount from AD. Not too sure about the Patek.

Attached are two wrist shots I took last week.

Vaxe · 12 November 2018, 12:33 PM

Yea that’s not even close, 5270 all the way

I would never again buy a Lange new from AD, worst and longest resell out there

Quote:

Originally Posted by kzou

Thanks for all the comments. I think the DP I can definitely get it at a good discount from AD. Not too sure about the Patek.

Attached are two wrist shots I took last week.

CoveWatch · 12 November 2018, 08:34 AM

Really tough one here.. love the blue of the patek but also really enjoy that Lange Dial and movement.

ezinhk · 12 November 2018, 09:47 AM

5270 for me but the Lange looks good on you.

kneedeep · 12 November 2018, 10:58 AM

5270 blue would be my choice.

RollieKid · 12 November 2018, 12:15 PM

Based on the pics, I would go with the 5270 blue dial despite being a fan of the dato.

Hairdude1 · 12 November 2018, 12:41 PM

5270 gets my vote

kuota_kalibur · 12 November 2018, 12:59 PM

RHIII · 12 November 2018, 03:23 PM

Lange

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Jowatch · 12 November 2018, 03:26 PM

Lange for me

yoast · 12 November 2018, 03:34 PM

Depends how good your eyes are... 20/20 go Lange, anything other go Patek...

Jay (Eire) · 12 November 2018, 10:18 PM

To the OP; I think I agree with others insofar as the Patek is way more legible.

But, I do really like the grey dial of the ALS. In person it's a stunning watch and personally I've not noticed any issue with legibility (but I don't own one, just get to see a buddy's watch from time to time).

Calatrava r · 13 November 2018, 12:19 AM

With a manual wind PC function, the 65 hour power reserve of the 5270 beats the 35 hour PR of the Lange hands down. You need to be able to leave the watch for a weekend and not have to reset each time.

Racerdj · 13 November 2018, 01:52 AM

Without a doubt, the 5270 would be my choice!

11 November 2018, 12:39 PM	#1
kzou "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: vancouver Posts: 125	5270G vs Datograph Perpetual Been thinking about acquiring a PCC recently and have narrowed down to these two. Wondering what this forum’s opinions are on them. The blue dial version of the 5270 looks gorgeous and I like the dial layout better. The Datograph Perpetual’s movement looks just a bit more refined. What do you guys think?

12 November 2018, 02:28 AM	#9
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Lange is unwearable. Other than that it’s a nice clock. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

12 November 2018, 10:58 AM	#21
kneedeep "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Not 2 far from u Posts: 3,457	5270 blue would be my choice. __________________ Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018

12 November 2018, 12:15 PM	#22
RollieKid "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Down under Watch: my wrist candy Posts: 567	Based on the pics, I would go with the 5270 blue dial despite being a fan of the dato. __________________ “No amount of money ever bought a second of time.” — Howard Stark

12 November 2018, 12:41 PM	#23
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	5270 gets my vote __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

11 November 2018, 01:01 PM	#2
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,889	5270 here hands down. I would however prefer a 5970 or 3970

11 November 2018, 02:59 PM	#4
cantdrive55 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Just up the road Watch: Hmmm… Posts: 107	both awesome pieces - no bad news... ALS DP in platinum is a heavy watch in a good way - feels very substantial... i have a 5170P with a blue dial, and it can be a bit hard to read in the evening...

11 November 2018, 03:02 PM	#5
tonupbklyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471	the 5270 in salmon is simply sublime. but the dato perpetual...jaw dropper.

11 November 2018, 04:41 PM	#6
SW1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: GB Posts: 296	I love the ALS movement but I also believe a watch needs to be functional. based purely on the fact that its near impossible to read the subdials of the Dato, it must be the PP. Whilst the 5270 price is soft the ALS is horrendous. I was offered the Dato (ok a year or so back) at 30% of list by the AD.

11 November 2018, 10:18 PM	#7
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	Blue 5270 is a fav of mine, the Dato dial I find too cluttered.

12 November 2018, 01:36 AM	#8
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,096	Go 5270p and call it a day

12 November 2018, 05:41 AM	#16
Vaxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 2,122	Definitely 5270. Dato is chunky and are pretty hard to flip

12 November 2018, 08:34 AM	#19
CoveWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex & AP Posts: 4,535	Really tough one here.. love the blue of the patek but also really enjoy that Lange Dial and movement.

12 November 2018, 09:47 AM	#20
ezinhk "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: hk Posts: 691	5270 for me but the Lange looks good on you.

12 November 2018, 12:59 PM	#24
kuota_kalibur "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Asia Posts: 219	5270

12 November 2018, 03:23 PM	#25
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	Lange Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 November 2018, 03:26 PM	#26
Jowatch 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Plenty Posts: 259	Lange for me

12 November 2018, 03:34 PM	#27
yoast "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: HK Posts: 2,287	Depends how good your eyes are... 20/20 go Lange, anything other go Patek... __________________ IG: @yoast.watch https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/

12 November 2018, 10:18 PM	#28
Jay (Eire) 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: @jb.watching Location: NYC Posts: 1,490	To the OP; I think I agree with others insofar as the Patek is way more legible. But, I do really like the grey dial of the ALS. In person it's a stunning watch and personally I've not noticed any issue with legibility (but I don't own one, just get to see a buddy's watch from time to time).

13 November 2018, 12:19 AM	#29
Calatrava r 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 11,364	With a manual wind PC function, the 65 hour power reserve of the 5270 beats the 35 hour PR of the Lange hands down. You need to be able to leave the watch for a weekend and not have to reset each time.

13 November 2018, 01:52 AM	#30
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	Without a doubt, the 5270 would be my choice! __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)