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Stratton · 26 January 2009, 04:16 AM

I mean in water with just a diving suit and oxygen and not in a diving bell or chamber of any kind. With the Deep Sea now being able to withstand 12800ft I just wondered how deep down a man can go? I thought the SD 4000 was overkill but the Deep Sea seems like needless over engineering which doesn't mean that I don't have respect for that over engineering. It's an awesome watch.

JJ Irani · 26 January 2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Stratton

I mean in water with just a diving suit and oxygen and not in a diving bell or chamber of any kind. With the Deep Sea now being able to withstand 12800ft I just wondered how deep down a man can go? I thought the SD 4000 was overkill but the Deep Sea seems like needless over engineering which doesn't mean that I don't have respect for that over engineering. It's an awesome watch.

Truth be told, even an ordinary SUB @ 1000 feet is an overkill for a normal human-being........even with a proper diving suit.

Not many humans would dare to venture beyond a couple of hundred feet. There are way too many repurcussions to be considered before venturing that deep.

Honestly, the 100 m (330 feet) rating for the DJ and most other Rolex models is 100% safe for 99.9999999999% of us out there - seriously!!

JJ

Tools · 26 January 2009, 04:28 AM

Hmmmm..........

I don't know Stratton, ...........

It seems like your motorcycle might be needlessly over-engineered when a Vespa might to the job.....

Whiskey · 26 January 2009, 04:33 AM

I believe the deepest a human could go is somewhere around 700 feet.

The fact that a Deepsea goes 12800 ft is more or less a novelty or having something over-engineered. Kind of like when the first Hummer's were introduced into the market-place back in 1993. They were crude-looking, very heavy, heavy-plating, bullett-proof, etc etc, but consumers still wanted them even though they were never planning on getting shot at, or driving on roads with landmines. The Hummer was designed with capabilities for an environment that the average North American would NEVER see.

I remember distinctly the very first person to own an original Army-Hummer was Arnold Schwartznegger. When his wife was in the hospital getting ready to deliver their first child, Arnold was photographed arriving and parking his Army-Hummer in the hospital parking-lot and getting out with a bouquet of flowers. At the time it was stated that this was 1 of 3 he owned and at the time was an impossible vehicle to attain as it was a Government Army-issued vehicle. However, as his wife is related to a very famous political family (Kennedy's), she pulled some strings and Arnold got the car.

After that photo, all you ever heard about was the Hummer. Pretty soon, more A-list actors started getting these things. Then GM modified the Hummer to make it more practical and sold them world-wide to the average consumer.

Jocke · 26 January 2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Truth be told, even an ordinary SUB @ 1000 feet is an overkill for a normal human-being........even with a proper diving suit.

Not many humans would dare to venture beyond a couple of hundred feet. There are way too many repurcussions to be considered before venturing that deep.

Honestly, the 100 m (330 feet) rating for the DJ and most other Rolex models is 100% safe for 99.9999999999% of us out there - seriously!!

JJ

But JJ that was about a human being.

What about a NZ'er with build in swim cap?

Jocke

JJ Irani · 26 January 2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

But JJ that was about a human being.

What about a NZ'er with build in swim cap?

Jocke

Can you ever be serious, ya tosser?

Jocke · 26 January 2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Can you ever be serious, ya tosser?

Yes but not for a long time.

Jocke

sdwtchlvr · 26 January 2009, 04:26 AM

Taken from WikiAnswers:

A Navy diver submerged 2,000 feet(609.6 m), setting a record using the new Atmospheric Diving System (ADS) suit, off the coast of La Jolla, Calif., Aug. 1 2007

Deepest open circuit scuba dive was accomplished by Pascal Bernabé (Ralf Tech/WR1 Team) on July 5, 2005 descended to 1,083 feet (330 m). The dive took place near Propriano, Corsica.

frostie · 26 January 2009, 04:30 AM

here are some pics of the atmospheric diving system

Looks pretty cool

Bisquitlips · 26 January 2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by frostie

here are some pics of the atmospheric diving system

Looks pretty cool

And what happens if you need to pee or do the #2??? Hmmmmm????

Inquiring minds want to know...!

JJ Irani · 26 January 2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

And what happens if you need to pee or do the #2??? Hmmmmm????

Inquiring minds want to know...!

Even if he did need to answer nature's calls, how the hell would he go about it without castrating himself?

Bisquitlips · 26 January 2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Even if he did need to answer nature's calls, how the hell would he go about it without castrating himself?

I don't know, but if he could hang it out there, under that kind of pressure I would imagine his doolywatchit would blow up to about 18" by 10" circumference.

Hey wait..........

Bisquitlips · 26 January 2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

And what happens if you need to pee or do the #2??? Hmmmmm????

Inquiring minds want to know...!

Also, the guy is going to have to see Steve for a bracelet extension. A long one!

frostie · 26 January 2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

And what happens if you need to pee or do the #2??? Hmmmmm????

Inquiring minds want to know...!

No clue !

Or imagine what is going to happen if you fa@t

Bisquitlips · 26 January 2009, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by frostie

No clue !

Or imagine what is going to happen if you fa@t

I would assume it's gonna fog up the helmet glass for a while. Brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it!

Stratton · 26 January 2009, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

And what happens if you need to pee or do the #2??? Hmmmmm????

Inquiring minds want to know...!

Rolex along with Comex are currently developing the P & S Escape Valve.

frostie · 26 January 2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Stratton

Rolex along with Comex are currently developing the P & S Escape Valve.

Hope they are developing an F escape valve too

mike · 26 January 2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

And what happens if you need to pee or do the #2??? Hmmmmm????

Inquiring minds want to know...!

You know....I've always wondered who pressure tests Rolex watches. Wonder how much he makes??

mixedccr · 26 January 2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

And what happens if you need to pee or do the #2??? Hmmmmm????

Inquiring minds want to know...!

You guys crack me up....

We use adult diapers, some suits actually do have a pee-valve. And for #2, well we put sod , and fibre and twigs and stuff, kinda like what bears do when they hibernate for winter........nah, just kidding......In water decompression for a dive say to 100m can take 4 to 6 hours, depending on how much time you spend down there. Well within natures tolerance of visiting her.

Bisquitlips · 26 January 2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedccr

You guys crack me up....

We use adult diapers, some suits actually do have a pee-valve. And for #2, well we put sod , and fibre and twigs and stuff, kinda like what bears do when they hibernate for winter........nah, just kidding......In water decompression for a dive say to 100m can take 4 to 6 hours, depending on how much time you spend down there. Well within natures tolerance of visiting her.

With this in mind, I would think also that I wouldn't eat for 24 hours before going down. And wear a catheter and bag!

Thanks for the information.

rajurama · 26 January 2009, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by frostie

here are some pics of the atmospheric diving system

Looks pretty cool

Funny how would he read time in that suit!

sdwtchlvr · 26 January 2009, 04:27 AM

But I think the max most certifications will allow is something around 130 feet.

jas55 · 26 January 2009, 04:34 AM

The suits looks like it straight out of a James Bond film.

I have always wondered how long your rolex would last under pressure? It does say that a Sub can go down to 1000 feet, but for how long. Would it last a week at that pressure, or a year?

JJ Irani · 26 January 2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jas55

The suits looks like it straight out of a James Bond film.

I have always wondered how long your rolex would last under pressure? It does say that a Sub can go down to 1000 feet, but for how long. Would it last a week at that pressure, or a year?

Well, if a SUB has been rated down to 1000 feet, it could sit there at that depth for a very long time and rest assured it will start up as soon as it's given a gentle shake!!

jas55 · 26 January 2009, 04:37 AM

hmmm, that's good to know

Xenophon · 26 January 2009, 05:33 AM

I'm sure you all recall from the Rolex advert that Theo Mavrostomos achieved a record depth of 701 metres (2300 ft) in a hyperbaric chamber. I've got a feeling that this has been broken. Given the extent of human diving I think the Deepsea depth to be a ludicrous gimmick.
Oh yes, Generally speaking in one of those 1atm suits or indeed in a long drysuit dive you have to catheterise yourself, collecting the waste in a bag !

GrandDaddy · 26 January 2009, 05:49 AM

I was stationed with a bunch of Navy saturation divers and still friends with a few. I'll just watch this thread and keep my mouth shut.

frch1104 · 26 January 2009, 07:27 AM

I know 48 meters (157 feet) is possible with regular scuba gear and a Citizen Aqualand divers watch, been there (somewhere outside the Philippine coast. I would have gone all the way with a Deep Sea.......
//Fred :....
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East Bay Rider · 26 January 2009, 07:46 AM

Looks familiar...

frostie · 26 January 2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

Looks familiar...

26 January 2009, 04:16 AM	#1
Stratton "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Posts: 429	How deep can a human being dive? I mean in water with just a diving suit and oxygen and not in a diving bell or chamber of any kind. With the Deep Sea now being able to withstand 12800ft I just wondered how deep down a man can go? I thought the SD 4000 was overkill but the Deep Sea seems like needless over engineering which doesn't mean that I don't have respect for that over engineering. It's an awesome watch.

26 January 2009, 04:28 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,494	Hmmmm.......... I don't know Stratton, ........... It seems like your motorcycle might be needlessly over-engineered when a Vespa might to the job..... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

26 January 2009, 04:34 AM	#23
jas55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Lach Location: Western Australia Posts: 759	The suits looks like it straight out of a James Bond film. I have always wondered how long your rolex would last under pressure? It does say that a Sub can go down to 1000 feet, but for how long. Would it last a week at that pressure, or a year? __________________ Explorer 2-Polar Omega Seamaster Quartz

26 January 2009, 04:37 AM	#25
jas55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Lach Location: Western Australia Posts: 759	hmmm, that's good to know __________________ Explorer 2-Polar Omega Seamaster Quartz

26 January 2009, 05:33 AM	#26
Xenophon 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Xenophon Location: UK Posts: 2,728	I'm sure you all recall from the Rolex advert that Theo Mavrostomos achieved a record depth of 701 metres (2300 ft) in a hyperbaric chamber. I've got a feeling that this has been broken. Given the extent of human diving I think the Deepsea depth to be a ludicrous gimmick. Oh yes, Generally speaking in one of those 1atm suits or indeed in a long drysuit dive you have to catheterise yourself, collecting the waste in a bag ! __________________ The sea! The sea! Θάλαττα! θάλαττα!

26 January 2009, 04:33 AM	#4
Whiskey Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Watch: Deepsea Posts: 521	I believe the deepest a human could go is somewhere around 700 feet. The fact that a Deepsea goes 12800 ft is more or less a novelty or having something over-engineered. Kind of like when the first Hummer's were introduced into the market-place back in 1993. They were crude-looking, very heavy, heavy-plating, bullett-proof, etc etc, but consumers still wanted them even though they were never planning on getting shot at, or driving on roads with landmines. The Hummer was designed with capabilities for an environment that the average North American would NEVER see. I remember distinctly the very first person to own an original Army-Hummer was Arnold Schwartznegger. When his wife was in the hospital getting ready to deliver their first child, Arnold was photographed arriving and parking his Army-Hummer in the hospital parking-lot and getting out with a bouquet of flowers. At the time it was stated that this was 1 of 3 he owned and at the time was an impossible vehicle to attain as it was a Government Army-issued vehicle. However, as his wife is related to a very famous political family (Kennedy's), she pulled some strings and Arnold got the car. After that photo, all you ever heard about was the Hummer. Pretty soon, more A-list actors started getting these things. Then GM modified the Hummer to make it more practical and sold them world-wide to the average consumer.

26 January 2009, 04:26 AM	#8
sdwtchlvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,308	Taken from WikiAnswers: A Navy diver submerged 2,000 feet(609.6 m), setting a record using the new Atmospheric Diving System (ADS) suit, off the coast of La Jolla, Calif., Aug. 1 2007 Deepest open circuit scuba dive was accomplished by Pascal Bernabé (Ralf Tech/WR1 Team) on July 5, 2005 descended to 1,083 feet (330 m). The dive took place near Propriano, Corsica.

26 January 2009, 04:27 AM	#22
sdwtchlvr "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,308	But I think the max most certifications will allow is something around 130 feet.

26 January 2009, 05:49 AM	#27
GrandDaddy Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 576	I was stationed with a bunch of Navy saturation divers and still friends with a few. I'll just watch this thread and keep my mouth shut.

26 January 2009, 07:27 AM	#28
frch1104 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Fredrik Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 239	I know 48 meters (157 feet) is possible with regular scuba gear and a Citizen Aqualand divers watch, been there (somewhere outside the Philippine coast. I would have gone all the way with a Deep Sea....... //Fred :.... :........ : : \/ 12800ft

26 January 2009, 07:46 AM	#29
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,061	Looks familiar... __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

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