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Fedpete · 11 February 2019, 03:46 AM

Ok guys, I have a shot at a decently priced white 116500 pre-owned—a little desk diving but otherwise excellent.

Fair price, still above msrp of course.......the one major caveat is no papers. Very very reputable local dealer however.

It’s giving me pause and wanted to hear from you guys first.

Would you still pull the trigger? Would this drastically harm resale in the future?

Thank you all. I love this place.

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Vaxe · 11 February 2019, 03:52 AM

Negotiate a better deal then call Rolex for a new warranty card, will run you only $60.
People lose their cards all the time, but your dealer is likely holding that to hide AD identity.

lisalisa · 11 February 2019, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Negotiate a better deal then call Rolex for a new warranty card, will run you only $60.
People lose their cards all the time, but your dealer is likely holding that to hide AD identity.

You can call Rolex and they will send new warranty card??

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Fedpete · 11 February 2019, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lisalisa

You can call Rolex and they will send new warranty card??

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Did not know this either.

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kokota · 11 February 2019, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lisalisa

You can call Rolex and they will send new warranty card??

Based on my experience, I don't believe this is possible.

Rrpdc · 11 February 2019, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lisalisa

You can call Rolex and they will send new warranty card??

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Good luck with that. Lol. Rolex will just laugh.

emtee · 11 February 2019, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Negotiate a better deal then call Rolex for a new warranty card, will run you only $60.
People lose their cards all the time, but your dealer is likely holding that to hide AD identity.

Pretty sure they won’t do this. Best you will get is sending it in for service and getting service card which will prove it’s authentic and provide some additional warranty time.

Nairn1980 · 11 February 2019, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Negotiate a better deal then call Rolex for a new warranty card, will run you only $60.
People lose their cards all the time, but your dealer is likely holding that to hide AD identity.

you can’t be serious?

tyler1980 · 11 February 2019, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nairn1980

you can’t be serious?

the disturbing part regardless of getting a new card, which isn't happening is that price is the deciding factor. There is no good reason why a watch that has to be no more than a few years old has no papers. Price it cheap enough and anyone will buy it no questions asked, since its not cheap enough that's why it has so many voting pass. Its asking for trouble. You can price away reason, piece of mind, and possible shady circumstances of how this watch came to be in someones possession if its cheap enough.

a 30 year old vintage watch and that's more explainable.

If i was buying it i would at a minimum require a credit card statement proving the person i acquired it from was the one who bought it. My statements all go back years and i could prove i bought it pretty easily You can also get a replacement reciept from the AD, i know i can from mine. There is no proof of purchase at all here.

Watchfinder requires proof of purchase in addition to the warranty card to sell them a watch. If i was OP i would make sure this dealer at least has a proof of purchase from whoever sold it to them

Macnavara · 11 February 2019, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vaxe

Negotiate a better deal then call Rolex for a new warranty card, will run you only $60.
People lose their cards all the time, but your dealer is likely holding that to hide AD identity.

Rolex don’t re issue warrenty papers ever

Dompropat · 11 February 2019, 03:52 AM

I would do it if you're getting a better deal than typical market value

Fedpete · 11 February 2019, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dompropat

I would do it if you're getting a better deal than typical market value

20k plus tax

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Dompropat · 11 February 2019, 04:02 AM

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20k plus tax

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In that case I would just spend the extra money and buy from DavidSW (or somebody similar) to get a complete set.

s.m.b. · 11 February 2019, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dompropat

In that case I would just spend the extra money and buy from DavidSW (or somebody similar) to get a complete set.

Frakis · 11 February 2019, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedpete

20k plus tax

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In my opinion, this is not a good price for an incomplete set. I would PASS on this one.

Fedpete · 11 February 2019, 05:00 AM

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In my opinion, this is not a good price for an incomplete set. I would PASS on this one.

I am in agreement with all of you. This is the classic emotion versus logic battle. It’s a pass, what my gut said just wanted to hear your thoughts.

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Sublovin · 11 February 2019, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedpete

20k plus tax

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surely you are joking

beshannon · 11 February 2019, 03:54 AM

Box?
Where did it come from, private seller, trade in?
What is a "decent" price?

Fedpete · 11 February 2019, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Box?
Where did it come from, private seller, trade in?
What is a "decent" price?

Has a box. 20k plus tax.

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beshannon · 11 February 2019, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedpete

Has a box. 20k plus tax.

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Given what is currently on the sales forum, that is not a "decently" priced watch given the MSRP. You are paying a huge amount for a less than complete package with unknown variables.

I would not buy that watch.

superdog · 11 February 2019, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedpete

Has a box. 20k plus tax.

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I might be late to this dance.

But 20k. No papers.

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

tyler1980 · 11 February 2019, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedpete

Ok guys, I have a shot at a decently priced white 116500 pre-owned—a little desk diving but otherwise excellent.

Fair price, still above msrp of course.......the one major caveat is no papers. Very very reputable local dealer however.

It’s giving me pause and wanted to hear from you guys first.

Would you still pull the trigger? Would this drastically harm resale in the future?

Thank you all. I love this place.

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how would this reputable dealer know if it was stolen or not? These things take time to get into databases. What if it was stolen in the UK and sold in the US? Does a dealer check world wide for stolen watches? Just saying, its not that improbable and the dealer would have no idea. With the speed these things change hands it makes this even harder to track. 10 years from now when it goes to RSC for service you may get a surprise.

There is no excuse for a <2 year old watch not to have papers. Stolen watches rarely have papers as they are usually not stored in the same place.

Fedpete · 11 February 2019, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

how would this reputable dealer know if it was stolen or not? These things take time to get into databases. What if it was stolen in the UK and sold in the US? Does a dealer check world wide for stolen watches? Just saying, its not that improbable and the dealer would have no idea. With the speed these things change hands it makes this even harder to track. 10 years from now when it goes to RSC for service you may get a surprise.

There is no excuse for a <2 year old watch not to have papers. Stolen watches rarely have papers as they are usually not stored in the same place.

My nightmare fear is the watch is indeed stolen and I service it 10 years down the road and it comes up hot in their database.

This company has been in business for over a hundred years however. It’s not some random shop. If that bears any value.

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tyler1980 · 11 February 2019, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fedpete

My nightmare fear is the watch is indeed stolen and I service it 10 years down the road and it comes up hot in their database.

This company has been in business for over a hundred years however. It’s not some random shop. If that bears any value.

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I had a break in 9 days ago and i still have not gotten around to submitting serial numbers for some of the items (no watches were taken though)

If it was a Daytona it could have been to a dealer and off to a new home before that. If i reported it on day 1, the police would have to upload it into their system immediately which i doubt they do. No idea on how Rolex handles this internally with a stolen database.

Also if i had a watch stolen, i would deal with my insurance company and be done with it. Do they then add it to a stolen database or contact Rolex? No idea, but its their watch as soon as i make a claim but i doubt they do it quickly. The system moves slowly

The1019 · 11 February 2019, 04:07 AM

You won’t be getting replacement card by calling Rolex dream on

MTBer · 11 February 2019, 04:11 AM

If you have $20k to spend on this watch, isn’t it worth spending a couple thousand more for one in brand new, unworn condition without any questionable history?

Bigblu10 · 11 February 2019, 05:42 AM

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you won’t be getting replacement card by calling rolex dream on

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David5807 · 11 February 2019, 04:08 AM

I wouldn't do it. Papers is a must have for me.

Sublovin · 11 February 2019, 04:49 AM

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I wouldn't do it. Papers is a must have for me.

There are no “papers”. There’s a plastic warranty card...

Hard_Six · 11 February 2019, 04:14 AM

I prefer to buy with card/papers. Especially at the $20K mark. I would pass personally.

11 February 2019, 03:46 AM	#1
Fedpete "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: usa Posts: 747	Opportunity for White DayC....but no papers Ok guys, I have a shot at a decently priced white 116500 pre-owned—a little desk diving but otherwise excellent. Fair price, still above msrp of course.......the one major caveat is no papers. Very very reputable local dealer however. It’s giving me pause and wanted to hear from you guys first. Would you still pull the trigger? Would this drastically harm resale in the future? Thank you all. I love this place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 February 2019, 03:54 AM	#18
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Box? Where did it come from, private seller, trade in? What is a "decent" price? __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

11 February 2019, 03:52 AM	#2
Vaxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 2,122	Negotiate a better deal then call Rolex for a new warranty card, will run you only $60. People lose their cards all the time, but your dealer is likely holding that to hide AD identity.

11 February 2019, 03:52 AM	#11
Dompropat "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: CT Watch: Sub Posts: 357	I would do it if you're getting a better deal than typical market value

11 February 2019, 04:07 AM	#25
The1019 Banned Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London Posts: 109	You won’t be getting replacement card by calling Rolex dream on

11 February 2019, 04:11 AM	#26
MTBer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Posts: 537	If you have $20k to spend on this watch, isn’t it worth spending a couple thousand more for one in brand new, unworn condition without any questionable history?

11 February 2019, 04:08 AM	#28
David5807 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: USA Posts: 2,696	I wouldn't do it. Papers is a must have for me.

11 February 2019, 04:14 AM	#30
Hard_Six "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Trey Location: Texas Watch: those three’s roll Posts: 3,036	I prefer to buy with card/papers. Especially at the $20K mark. I would pass personally.

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