Bought a Sub from TRF member aftershok57. Please help!

[angelicboris]

Hey. I've been hanging around here for ages but mostly as a lurker. I just bought a sub on eBay from TRF member aftershok57. Unfortunately it turned out to be a pretty obvious fake. I should have known from the pictures but somehow I missed it. I want to believe the best about all people and my assumption is that his dealer ripped him off. Here are HIS pics to peruse. I hope that if you guys let him know its authenticity, he'll give me my money back without further issue.











Below, are my pics of the watch as received.







Thanks for any help. I hope the matter can be resolved quickly.

[Gtecko]

You are protected on Ebay... why not open a case?
The Ebay user could just pretend to be someone from here.


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[mdubya]

godawful fake, but no one needs to point that out. The pictures were also of an obviously fake watch as well so you should have done your due diligence. Do not waste your time trying to "prove" anything to the seller, go through paypal and get your money back.

[angelicboris]

I opened a case but I first need to request a return and wait three days for eBay to step in.

[.paul]

Wow. That's a pretty obvious fake. Hopefully he'll do the right thing and refund you before eBay has to step in. He can lose his eBay account and ability to use PayPal.

[CorradoBrit]

Total fake. Let Ebay take care of this.

[CorradoBrit]

OK somethings fishy. The watch sells 2/5 for $7420. On 2/6 it gets relisted and then the listing is ended early by the seller same day. Where does your purchase fit in? Did you do a deal off Ebay to save a few $$?

That seller has no feedback in over a year and no watch related sales. Maybe this account was hijacked and the username changed to someone on TRF to give sale legitimacy. I would not be surprised if the real 'aftershok57' knows nothing about this watch.

I'd be contacting the credit card company asap.

[angelicboris]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

OK somethings fishy. The watch sells 2/5 for $7420. On 2/6 it gets relisted and then the listing is ended early by the seller same day. Where does your purchase fit in? Did you do a deal off Ebay to save a few $$?

That seller has no feedback in over a year and no watch related sales. Maybe this account was hijacked and the username changed to someone on TRF to give sale legitimacy. I would not be surprised if the real 'aftershok57' knows nothing about this watch.

I'd be contacting the credit card company asap.

The transaction was thankfully through eBay but eBay removed the listing after purchase.

[Laszlo]

Scammed for sure. No eBay transaction? Wow.

[CorradoBrit]

Thats lucky for you. Have you reached out to aftershok57 through TRF? You could well be dealing with one and the same person. Both indicate location as El Paso TX.

[angelicboris]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Thats lucky for you. Have you reached out to aftershok57 through TRF? You could well be dealing with one and the same person. Both indicate location as El Paso TX.

I'm as certain as can be based on the information I have that it's the same person. I prefer that all my communication with him be on record through eBay.

[CorradoBrit]

Has seller communicated with you through Ebay to make this right?

[shaunylw]

You are totally covered. eBay is great for buyers. I can’t see you having a single issue getting your money back. It may take a little bit but you will get it.

On the next one, find a friend that can check things like this. It’s a horrendous fake with at least 4-5 clear indicators. No biggie, your cash is wrapped up for maybe a few weeks but you get it back. That’s more than a lot of people can say when buying fakes.


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[Humble michael]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

You are totally covered. eBay is great for buyers. I can’t see you having a single issue getting your money back. It may take a little bit but you will get it.

On the next one, find a friend that can check things like this. It’s a horrendous fake with at least 4-5 clear indicators. No biggie, your cash is wrapped up for maybe a few weeks but you get it back. That’s more than a lot of people can say when buying fakes.


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Absolutely!!! Your BEST protection is ALWAYS use pay pal preferably combined w AMX.

[GLADIATOR]

Known serial number FAKE
Apart from about 5 other things
EBay will protect you

[socalwatchcollector]

Wow.. That is a really bad junker too..

[PRSWILL]

He's not asking for an opinion on whether it's fake- he's asking for help with the scum bag seller. If anyone here knows this guy, blow him up.

but yeah- the serial number alone should have been a tip-off.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by PRSWILL

He's not asking for an opinion on whether it's fake- he's asking for help with the scum bag seller. If anyone here knows this guy, blow him up.

but yeah- the serial number alone should have been a tip-off.

I can help, if he has any problem with eBay, but I do not think he will.
OP: PM me if you do

[shabaang]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I can help, if he has any problem with eBay, but I do not think he will.
OP: PM me if you do

just curious how you could help?

[htbilgic]

eBay would cover this. Although this situation is stressful, you don't need to worry about it.

[mjclark32]

Top and bottom pics/watches are terrible.

[WristCheckDaily]

Hate to see things like this happen, your covered tho. Good luck.


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[CorradoBrit]

Silence from aftershok57 speaks volumes. He's aware of this thread

[subtona]

its fake, take action, the sooner the better.

[Trepang]

Help a rookie out. What are the obvious signs and indicators you can tell from the pictures.

I was scared to death to buy one on line. I knew I didn't know enough to avoid being scammed, so I went with a known retailer, DavidSW.

I'd just like to learn a little and I am curious what you guys picked up on from the pics.

[smym18]

Originally Posted by Trepang

Help a rookie out. What are the obvious signs and indicators you can tell from the pictures.

I was scared to death to buy one on line. I knew I didn't know enough to avoid being scammed, so I went with a known retailer, DavidSW.

I'd just like to learn a little and I am curious what you guys picked up on from the pics.

F437091 is a commonly used fake serial.

[Trepang]

Originally Posted by smym18

F437091 is a commonly used fake serial.

Gotcha. Thanks.

[WristCheckDaily]

Originally Posted by Trepang

Help a rookie out. What are the obvious signs and indicators you can tell from the pictures.

I was scared to death to buy one on line. I knew I didn't know enough to avoid being scammed, so I went with a known retailer, DavidSW.

I'd just like to learn a little and I am curious what you guys picked up on from the pics.

The date number 2 is terribly done


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[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Trepang

Help a rookie out. What are the obvious signs and indicators you can tell from the pictures.

I was scared to death to buy one on line. I knew I didn't know enough to avoid being scammed, so I went with a known retailer, DavidSW.

I'd just like to learn a little and I am curious what you guys picked up on from the pics.

Sorry we dont go into so much detail, but serial number is known
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[jstan9]

Originally Posted by Trepang

Help a rookie out. What are the obvious signs and indicators you can tell from the pictures.

I was scared to death to buy one on line. I knew I didn't know enough to avoid being scammed, so I went with a known retailer, DavidSW.

I'd just like to learn a little and I am curious what you guys picked up on from the pics.

Exactly. With DavidSW you’re dealing with a 100% up front total quality seller. I made the same calculus. David is amazing and it’s worth it to have complete confidence.