This will ruffle some feathers.. Invicta

[Onewatchguy82]

Out of all the Invicta pro divers and speedway models which one looks most like a Rolex or one you have thought was a Rolex from far away.
I am in no way an Invicta fan just a curious question.
I own one from years ago that was a gift and is long discontinued

Last week end at the Daytona 500 I was eyeing a two-tone Daytona but low and behold it was a speedway

[DP63]

I'm gonna get some popcorn and come back to this thread.

This should be interesting hahahaha

[tyler1980]

it says Invicta right on the dial. Its an Invicta... its not a Rolex

[_speedmaster_]

I'd sooner draw a sub on my wrist with a sharpie than wear that.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

I'd sooner draw a sub on my wrist with a sharpie than wear that.

Sort of like my DD?

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Sort of like my DD?

I see you went with white gold.

[janice&fred]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

I see you went with white gold.

it's annoying when i read erroneous observations. judging by the markers that is the platinum model.

[shaunylw]

I think every model is nowhere near a Rolex. That being said, if you have a $200 budget, it’s a great option.


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[asiparks]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

I think every model is nowhere near a Rolex. That being said, if you have a $200 budget, it’s a great option.


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...if there wasn't Seiko....

but, if there's a specific Invicta you fancy, all power to you. Lets face it, it's absolutely not necessary to spend more than $60 to get a watch

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by asiparks

...if there wasn't Seiko....

but, if there's a specific Invicta you fancy, all power to you. Lets face it, it's absolutely not necessary to spend more than $60 to get a watch

Very true. It’s hard to find better than a seiko diver for anything in that price point.


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[VicLeChic]

bezel reminds me of a certain Kermit

[beshannon]

Everyone knows what Invicta is, why would this ruffle anything?

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Everyone knows what Invicta is, why would this ruffle anything?

They make relatively cheap watches (not an issue). What generally ruffles feathers is their blatant copying of popular models from other brands (like the green sub pictured above).
Also, many of their designs that aren't ripoffs are generally pretty garish for my taste (fake gold being an example).

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

They make relatively cheap watches (not an issue). What generally ruffles feathers is their blatant copying of popular models from other brands (like the green sub pictured above).
Also, many of their designs that aren't ripoffs are generally pretty garish for my taste (fake gold being an example).

they are not copying anything trademarked.... facial tissues are not Kleenex. They look similar

Adhesive bandages and band-aids are not the same either... fruity o's and fruit loops. the list goes on and on. Most of that stuff people buy because its cheaper and its a positive. If you don't care about the quality difference then paying less for something similar is normal behavior

What i do find weird is the fact people get mad when someone doesn't care about the difference, they just want a nice looking watch, but they should be forced to spend 9K anyway. What someone else wears should in no way devalue what you choose to wear.

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

they are not copying anything trademarked.... facial tissues are not Kleenex. They look similar

Adhesive bandages and band-aids are not the same either... fruity o's and fruit loops. the list goes on and on. Most of that stuff people buy because its cheaper and its a positive. If you don't care about the quality difference then paying less for something similar is normal behavior

What i do find weird is the fact people get mad when someone doesn't care about the difference, they just want a nice looking watch, but they should be forced to spend 9K anyway. What someone else wears should in no way devalue what you choose to wear.

To me, this has nothing to do with the legal statutes or the price difference. Nor does it have anything to do with the inherent quality difference.

For me, I absolutely have a distaste for companies that blatantly copy popular/successful designs. I find it lazy at best.

I'm not asking for every company to be revolutionary in their designs. I don't care if a company takes inspiration from another company. But to completely copy the entire design? No.

I also have this opinion against some of R.W. Smith's designs, as they mimick Breguet a little too much for my taste. Mind you, R.W. Smith's watches are worth more than Breguet's. I don't even own a Breguet. But...it still irks me.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

What generally ruffles feathers is their blatant copying of popular models from other brands (like the green sub pictured above).

Again why does this "ruffle feathers?"

Who cares what they do except perhaps Rolex lawyers?

Those who actually know, understand and like watches are not the least bit concerned much less "ruffled".

[Onewatchguy82]

In person the green is lovely when I won't wanna knock around my Omega 2264 I'll wear it

[SN13]

I constantly see two-tone Invictas and they require a few seconds longer to inspect but they always leave me with the same feeling.

Disappointment.

There are too many Respectable Seikos in the same price range for me to ever seriously consider any invicta.

[Onewatchguy82]

Originally Posted by SN13

I constantly see two-tone Invictas and they require a few seconds longer to inspect but they always leave me with the same feeling.

Disappointment.

There are too many Respectable Seikos in the same price range for me to ever seriously consider any invicta.

Same here the two tones from far away

[twitch54]

Originally Posted by SN13

I constantly see two-tone Invictas and they require a few seconds longer to inspect but they always leave me with the same feeling.

Disappointment.

There are too many Respectable Seikos in the same price range for me to ever seriously consider any invicta.

Bingo, agreed 100 %

[jeffnnj]

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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by jeffnnj

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Sincerest form of flattery

[Syed117]

I don't knock anyone for wearing what they like, but I would never wear an Invicta because all they seem to do is blatantly copy every popular model from other manufacturers. They have clones for every Rolex model. It's embarrassing.

Have somewhat the same issue with Steinhart despite their watches actually being well made.

I'll happily wear a $14 Casio over any Invicta any day. There are so many better options for whatever Invicta charges for these abominations.

[Paul7]

Originally Posted by Syed117

I don't knock anyone for wearing what they like, but I would never wear an Invicta because all they seem to do is blatantly copy every popular model from other manufacturers. They have clones for every Rolex model. It's embarrassing.

Have somewhat the same issue with Steinhart despite their watches actually being well made.

I own a Rolex and just got a Steinhart dive watch that I'm very happy with. 85% of the quality of a Rolex at 4% of the price. Waterproof to 100M, Swiss-made, ETA movement at 8 steps a second just like my Rolex. The 39mm size fits my 6.5" wrist perfectly, 40mm is borderline too big for me. Steinhart can offer a pretty high quality watch due to modern CNC machining, and of course not having to spend millions on advertising, retail stores, or celebrity endorsement contracts.

I doubt I'll have to have any "No, it isn't a Rolex" conversations, I've worn my Rolex for several years and haven't gotten one comment on it.

Yes, it is sort of a copy, but there is speculation whether Rolex originated the dive watch. If the patent on a drug runs out and you can get the same generic drug for a fraction of the cost, are you going to complain it's just a copy?

[reeko]

Originally Posted by Paul7

I own a Rolex and just got a Steinhart dive watch that I'm very happy with. 85% of the quality of a Rolex at 4% of the price. Waterproof to 100M, Swiss-made, ETA movement at 8 steps a second just like my Rolex. The 39mm size fits my 6.5" wrist perfectly, 40mm is borderline too big for me. Steinhart can offer a pretty high quality watch due to modern CNC machining, and of course not having to spend millions on advertising, retail stores, or celebrity endorsement contracts.

I doubt I'll have to have any "No, it isn't a Rolex" conversations, I've worn my Rolex for several years and haven't gotten one comment on it.

Yes, it is sort of a copy, but there is speculation whether Rolex originated the dive watch. If the patent on a drug runs out and you can get the same generic drug for a fraction of the cost, are you going to complain it's just a copy?

Well said! I also own a Rolex gmt tt, and afterwards I decided that I really liked the Pepsi look, but I didn't want to get rid of my gmt tt because I love it. So I decided to get a steinhart Pepsi gmt watch with the jubilee. It's a great quality watch for the money, and now I can travel with it to places I would hesitate to wear my rolex.

I don't care what people think. Most people that comment negatively only buy their Rolex for the name, not because their watch fans. How about we all just enjoy our watches, no need to call people out.

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[Paul7]

Originally Posted by reeko

Well said! I also own a Rolex gmt tt, and afterwards I decided that I really liked the Pepsi look, but I didn't want to get rid of my gmt tt because I love it. So I decided to get a steinhart Pepsi gmt watch with the jubilee. It's a great quality watch for the money, and now I can travel with it to places I would hesitate to wear my rolex.

Agreed, if you're going to 2nd and 3rd world places it is nuts IMHO to wear a $15K watch. Desperately poor people do desperate things. Even London is iffy from what I read.

I don't care what people think. Most people that comment negatively only buy their Rolex for the name, not because their watch fans. How about we all just enjoy our watches, no need to call people out.

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I think as the prices of Rolex SS models go higher, you're going to have more people choosing quality alternatives like Steinhart, and not necessarily because they can't afford a Rolex. People say they're a good investment, didn't they say that about the housing bubble? I can get a 20% return in reliable real estate investment funds. Of course lots of SS Roles owners are going to react negatively when someone else has a watch with much of the quality but a tiny fraction of the price. YMMV

I'm sure many SS Rolex owners here can easily financially afford them, but you wonder about others, people are using loans to buy them. You read books like "Rich Man Poor Man" and generally speaking, buying $15K watches isn't recommended. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and in 10 years the same watch will be worth $30K, but then again in 10 years a $15K real estate investment could be worth $90K at a 20% return annual.

[janice&fred]

Originally Posted by Paul7

Agreed, if you're going to 2nd and 3rd world places it is nuts IMHO to wear a $15K watch. Desperately poor people do desperate things. Even London is iffy from what I read.



I think as the prices of Rolex SS models go higher, you're going to have more people choosing quality alternatives like Steinhart, and not necessarily because they can't afford a Rolex. People say they're a good investment, didn't they say that about the housing bubble? I can get a 20% return in reliable real estate investment funds. Of course lots of SS Roles owners are going to react negatively when someone else has a watch with much of the quality but a tiny fraction of the price. YMMV

I'm sure many SS Rolex owners here can easily financially afford them, but you wonder about others, people are using loans to buy them. You read books like "Rich Man Poor Man" and generally speaking, buying $15K watches isn't recommended. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and in 10 years the same watch will be worth $30K, but then again in 10 years a $15K real estate investment could be worth $90K at a 20% return annual.

both of you guys posting today make sense with the exception of this being a thread on invicta not steinhart. a steinhart watch is head and shoulders above an invicta in quality of build. as far as style similar to rolex that doesn't bother me at all. there are only so many ways a round diver style watch can look so naturally they all appear similar.

[reeko]

Originally Posted by Paul7

Agreed, if you're going to 2nd and 3rd world places it is nuts IMHO to wear a $15K watch. Desperately poor people do desperate things. Even London is iffy from what I read.



I think as the prices of Rolex SS models go higher, you're going to have more people choosing quality alternatives like Steinhart, and not necessarily because they can't afford a Rolex. People say they're a good investment, didn't they say that about the housing bubble? I can get a 20% return in reliable real estate investment funds. Of course lots of SS Roles owners are going to react negatively when someone else has a watch with much of the quality but a tiny fraction of the price. YMMV

I'm sure many SS Rolex owners here can easily financially afford them, but you wonder about others, people are using loans to buy them. You read books like "Rich Man Poor Man" and generally speaking, buying $15K watches isn't recommended. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and in 10 years the same watch will be worth $30K, but then again in 10 years a $15K real estate investment could be worth $90K at a 20% return annual.

I definitely agree, I would only wear my rolex in Canada/US and some parts of Europe. I'm planning on visiting central and South America next year with my wife and kids and I'm not going to put us at risk with my watch, even if it's insured.

I also don't think we should treat our watches as an investment or like cash. Right now prices are increasing and it's great for people, but the economy and prices could crash in a few years; so don't bank on making more money and just enjoy your watches.

Have you seen that new steinhart 39 gmt black and blue in steel? It looks interesting!


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[Onewatchguy82]

But didn't Rolex originally copy the sub?

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by Onewatchguy82

But didn't Rolex originally copy the sub?

No