Watches Updated with 3235 Movement - Why isn't this a bigger deal?

[smym18]

It seems that a lot of members don't care that a bunch of watches were updated with the 3235 movement, which gives the watch basically another full day of power and another 5 or so years until service time.

People who take their watch off for the weekend can pick it right back up on a Monday with one less thing to worry about to start the week. It will also benefit people with a multi-watch rotation.

I'm just curious - why is this update being viewed as no big deal?

(Yes, I am aware setting a watch doesn't take much effort.)

[tng11]

I'm a huge fan of the 3235. As someone with a couple of watches in rotation it's perfect. Love the BLRO more than my (now discontinued) BLNR and the 70 hour power reserve is a huge factor. Another reason why I love the Daytona too.

The entire YM lineup getting the new movement should be a bigger deal - no one seemed to care yesterday. I guess the YM just isn't that popular!

[lawrence1]

Not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

[danny1305]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

Not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

This. While nice...it certainly isnt warranted of an upgrade for people that have the previous version of the watch. Many also use winders and will not see the benefit of the extended reserve

[sillo]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

Not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

This about sums it up perfectly. I really couldn't care less about power reserve as long as it's running when I wake up and put on my watch in the morning.

[strafer_kid]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

Not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

Sums it up well!

[R G]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

not that big of a deal and the old movement is proven to be a workhorse. The longer power reserve is nice but not a must for most.

x2.

[MOOI]

It's huge. 70h is the new 40.

[WS9D]

i could care less about 70 hours PR. It's not a big deal to wind it up and set the time if it stops running cause it's off my wrist. That's half the fun for me. The 31XX is a proven work horse.

[pkincy]

But we give up something also. With the DJ 36 we give up the hidden crown clasp on the jubilee and the white stick dial all for a slightly newer movement. On balance not a real win.

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by pkincy

But we give up something also. With the DJ 36 we give up the hidden crown clasp on the jubilee

Where have you been? They already removed the hidden clasp last year.

Catch up brother.

[pkincy]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

Where have you been? They already removed the hidden clasp last year.

Catch up brother.

I am. The SS jubilee still has it. The TT was changed last year and the SS this year, but the 116234 still has it. The 126234 (new 19 model) will not.

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by pkincy

I am. The SS jubilee still has it. The TT was changed last year and the SS this year, but the 116234 still has it. The 126234 (new 19 model) will not.

I can't find the correct topics at the moment but I remember seeing the pictures and posts that the hidden clasp wasn't available anymore on the SS models.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=598798

April 2018

So yesterday I went to my local AD in the UK and purchased a stainless steel and fluted bezel 116234. The salesperson told me this is the last one they have and they have now been discontinued already!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=640563

[Sunly]

Originally Posted by pkincy

But we give up something also. With the DJ 36 we give up the hidden crown clasp on the jubilee and the white stick dial all for a slightly newer movement. On balance not a real win.

You nailed it! With the new dial..I would prefer to old DJ36....

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[AdamW]

Originally Posted by pkincy

But we give up something also. With the DJ 36 we give up the hidden crown clasp on the jubilee and the white stick dial all for a slightly newer movement. On balance not a real win.

The white stick dial is a big loss.

[Whomprat]

Originally Posted by pkincy

But we give up something also. With the DJ 36 we give up the hidden crown clasp on the jubilee and the white stick dial all for a slightly newer movement. On balance not a real win.

Does the new jubilee have the easylink? One of my worries with getting a Rolex is proper fit. I have a SKX Seiko with 4mm micro adjust, and it's too loose on one setting, and too tight on the other. I'm hoping the new Jubilee with links/half links/easy link will let me get to a perfect fit.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by smym18

. . .
I'm just curious - why is this update being viewed as no big deal?

(Yes, I am aware setting a watch doesn't take much effort.)

It is puzzling....

When the 3186 came out you would think that Rolex had re-invented the wheel all over again and everybody was scrambling to have theirs, even if they were breaking right and left.

Now that they have a completely new movement series everybody is raging because they didn't get a new dial color or whatever.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by Tools

It is puzzling....

When the 3186 came out you would think that Rolex had re-invented the wheel all over again and everybody was scrambling to have theirs, even if they were breaking right and left.

Now that they have a completely new movement series everybody is raging because they didn't get a new dial color or whatever.

Sadly, people are only interested in what Rolex they can buy to flip, show off, beat the system with etc etc. Movements are just unimportant to most. Sad state of affairs to those that love the heritage, the brand and strive to own one.

[Juantxo]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Sadly, people are only interested in what Rolex they can buy to flip, show off, beat the system with etc etc. Movements are just unimportant to most. Sad state of affairs to those that love the heritage, the brand and strive to own one.

Yup. The Internet and the herd drive.

[Dr Watches]

Originally Posted by Tools

It is puzzling....

When the 3186 came out you would think that Rolex had re-invented the wheel all over again and everybody was scrambling to have theirs, even if they were breaking right and left.

Now that they have a completely new movement series everybody is raging because they didn't get a new dial color or whatever.

The population of collectors is different now. And not in a way where things like movements are understood or valued.

[enjoythemusic]

70 hours is nice, do have to admit the current movements are seriously impressive. They've proven their work-horsemen like manner, plus Rolex can easily take care of things in a fast and timely manner. I don't recall much of anyone really complaining about any of the latest movements.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by smym18

which gives the watch basically another...5 or so years until service time.

Is it only the 32xx that has a ten-year interval? Rolex updated the recommended service interval to ten years when the 31xx was still the more common movement.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Is it only the 32xx that has a ten-year interval? Rolex updated the recommended service interval to ten years when the 31xx was still the more common movement.

No, it's not limited to the 32xx, but rather any watches coming with Green hang tags. I believe the switch was July/August 2015. At that point any watches still in cases, ADs were instructed to switch from the Red to the new Green hang tags and issue accompanied warrantees, service recommendations and guarantees.

I have two green tags in the collection, Feb 16 Sub and a Feb 16 Daytona. Both have the +2 -2 as well as the 5 year warranty as well.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by 904VT

No, it's not limited to the 32xx, but rather any watches coming with Green hang tags. I believe the switch was July/August 2015. At that point any watches still in cases, ADs were instructed to switch from the Red to the new Green hang tags and issue accompanied warrantees, service recommendations and guarantees.

I have two green tags in the collection, Feb 16 Sub and a Feb 16 Daytona. Both have the +2 -2 as well as the 5 year warranty as well.

Thanks. I knew the warranty and accuracy specs changed in 2015 with the green tags. I wasn't aware that also included a change in the recommended service interval. Even so, I was pretty sure the ten-year interval didn't apply only to the 32xx movements.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Thanks. I knew the warranty and accuracy specs changed in 2015 with the green tags. I wasn't aware that also included a change in the recommended service interval. Even so, I was pretty sure the ten-year interval didn't apply only to the 32xx movements.

You were correct. Big update too imo compared to competitors

[Maiden]

There is no change in service intervals with the new movement.

[Joed631]

I completely agree, the extra power reserve is essential if you’re rotating multiple watches without a winder.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by smym18

I see people referring to the 3135 as a workhorse that's been around for 30 years - well I guess we're gonna be waiting a long time to judge the 3235's longevity, but I'd imagine Rolex took a step forward, not backward.

Yes a bit backward the 32 series is loosely based on the older 30 series movement.

Originally Posted by Joed631

I completely agree, the extra power reserve is essential if you’re rotating multiple watches without a winder.

Cannot understand why all Rolex watches have a winding crown to wind if needed.And you would have to fully manually wind the 32 series movement first and be quite active after to top up to full power-reserve.Just because some are wearing the watch does not mean they are winding the watch its activity that winds the watch.And talking about machine winders I would say that many of the 32 series movements will still end up on a machine winder, just like the Daytona which had a power-reserve of 72 hours way back in 2000.IMHO power-reserve is one of the least important factors in any movement as long as you have the use of your fingers to wind it must take all of 15 seconds to do this extremely difficult time consuming task.

[Late]

Originally Posted by padi56

Cannot understand why all Rolex watches have a winding crown to wind if needed.

Not sure if you're serious. I have multiple watches in rotation. I seldom wear my DJ41 on Friday or Saturday; doesn't really match the clothing. But it's really nice that it's still correct on Monday morning.
But... last Thursday was really warm. I wore short sleeves and my green sunburst Swatch Sistem 51 (a really fun and funky automatic with a unique movement using just one screw)... so last week I did have to wind the DJ41 when I wore it.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Late

Not sure if you're serious. I have multiple watches in rotation. I seldom wear my DJ41 on Friday or Saturday; doesn't really match the clothing. But it's really nice that it's still correct on Monday morning.
But... last Thursday was really warm. I wore short sleeves and my green sunburst Swatch Sistem 51 (a really fun and funky automatic with a unique movement using just one screw)... so last week I did have to wind the DJ41 when I wore it.

Yes winding a watch can be a extremely hard to do I dont think.