UFO Disclosure Imminent?

[VaRobot]

Anyone following To the Stars Academy and their relationship with the Pentagon? If interested, some links below:

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...you-should-too

https://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/loc...pbKkiK96auH0qQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i-vUpvBbLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilwKz19ywcQ

https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/18/us-na...1V3pC4NqAl3QNQ

[VaRobot]

Long story short, a couple years ago, UFO enthusiast Punk Rocker (Tom Delonge) starts telling people he is talking with Pentagon Generals and CIA about UFO disclosure, few believe him.

Then, hacked Wikileaks emails confirm he is having these discussions. He and his company (To the Stars Academy or Arts and Sciences) are given Military UFO footage and the Pilot testimony supports the video.

More interestingly, this Punk Rocker has a bunch of former Military, Intelligence, and Academia types supporting him in his company as corporate officers.

My guess is the corporate officers were given assurance by the Pentagon that they would not look foolish.

Most Average Joes have no idea any of this is going on, I think that will change soon and the world will face a new Paradigm.

Looks like Disclosure is beginning...………..

P.S. I wanted something more volatile than bitcoin in my (play money) portfolio, so I purchased a couple hundred dollars worth of shares in the company.

[Chester01]

I don’t know about the company, but hard to believe we are the only living organisms out there in a universe that is constantly expanding. Almost seems narcissistic to believe as such.

[Greg 59]

Originally Posted by Chester01

I don’t know about the company, but hard to believe we are the only living organisms out there in a universe that is constantly expanding. Almost seems narcissistic to believe as such.

Well if we are, that would mean we are the first or the last, which is even harder to believe.

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[TradingLoss]

Originally Posted by Chester01

I don’t know about the company, but hard to believe we are the only living organisms out there in a universe that is constantly expanding. Almost seems narcissistic to believe as such.

we're not the only living organisms, the odds are too high there is another solar system with another planet similar to earth amongst the trillions of stars amongst the billions of galaxies.

The only hindrance is the distances apart.

Time (pun intended for this forum) is on our side.

[-lenny-]

Humans are far too dumb to be peak intelligence. And only one planet can sustain life??

[meloncap78]

Originally Posted by -lenny-

Humans are far too dumb to be peak intelligence. And only one planet can sustain life??

While true in some circumstances the other side of the coin shows that we have the innate capability of becoming profoundly spiritual beings. This in itself opens up a whole different realm of cosmic intellect. All you need to do is listen to Alan Watts to scratch the surface of what really matters in this life experience.

[Paul7]

Originally Posted by -lenny-

And only one planet can sustain life??

The evidence to date says yes. There is an amazing amount of fine-tuning that enables life to support life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_universe

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by Paul7

The evidence to date says yes. There is an amazing amount of fine-tuning that enables life to support life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_universe

That assumes we are the only intelligent species here. Plato writing has been fairly astute, imho.

[VaRobot]

Lots of different theories as to the intelligence behind the UFO, or UAP as the vehicles are now known.

Demons
Time Travelers
Aliens
Ultra-dimensional beings

[Proteinshake86]

+1 on UFOs being demons.

Originally Posted by VaRobot

Lots of different theories as to the intelligence behind the UFO, or UAP as the vehicles are now known.

Demons
Time Travelers
Aliens
Ultra-dimensional beings

[Abdullah71601]

Does the buzz on this story pump the value of your stock investment?

[derekhayden]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Does the buzz on this story pump the value of your stock investment?

It's not a publicly traded company so I highly doubt it. The best outcome I could see investing in a company like this would be them getting bought out by a larger entertainment company. This company has come under some scrutiny since the beginning as basically a way for Delonge to recoup other investment and tax loses.

I am a huge UFO buff myself and welcome the day of disclosure. Without companies like this pushing on government, as OP said most people will never know.

[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by derekhayden

It's not a publicly traded company so I highly doubt it. The best outcome I could see investing in a company like this would be them getting bought out by a larger entertainment company. This company has come under some scrutiny since the beginning as basically a way for Delonge to recoup other investment and tax loses.

I am a huge UFO buff myself and welcome the day of disclosure. Without companies like this pushing on government, as OP said most people will never know.

Yep, they aren't currently offering stock. The company books aren't impressive, but things seem to be solid and a lot going on behind the scenes. I think they are secretly, informally backed by our government.

Delonge sees himself as the Walt Disney of UFO Disclosure, Movies, Comic Books, etc, etc

[Abdullah71601]

Companies like this won’t push the Gov to disclose anything. Classification doesn’t work that way. Secrets stay secret until revealed by adversaries, accidental disclosure, or expiry of the classification (this will never expire). It takes a lot more than a politically popular notion to get the Gov to reveal anything.

Who shot JFK?

See what I mean?

[-lenny-]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Companies like this won’t push the Gov to disclose anything. Classification doesn’t work that way. Secrets stay secret until revealed by adversaries, accidental disclosure, or expiry of the classification (this will never expire). It takes a lot more than a politically popular notion to get the Gov to reveal anything.

Who shot JFK?

See what I mean?

So what is your opinion regarding UFOs?

[bayerische]

Originally Posted by -lenny-

So what is your opinion regarding UFOs?

Mine is;

There are Aliens, probably millions if not billions of different kinds in our universe. However many there are, the distances are simply too great for any visitation.

The day aliens visit us (if they ever, or if they ever could) the whole of planet earth will know whit-in 10 minutes.

[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Companies like this won’t push the Gov to disclose anything. Classification doesn’t work that way. Secrets stay secret until revealed by adversaries, accidental disclosure, or expiry of the classification (this will never expire). It takes a lot more than a politically popular notion to get the Gov to reveal anything.

Who shot JFK?

See what I mean?

They are disclosing that UFO's are a real Phenomena. The U.S. Government has denied this for 70ish years, it is no longer the case.

A major paradigm change here.

I'm pretty sure the Government is pushing them with a handler to keep them in line.

[powerfunk]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Who shot JFK?

See what I mean?

They declassified a bunch of those documents. I spent a lot of time going through them, and it's pretty clear that it was Oswald...but the coverup was the fact that the FBI was warned about Oswald being a Russian agent sent to kill JFK, but they thought the source was unreliable and ignored her. Whoops!

[Blansky]

"you can't handle the truth"

We are basically no different that spear throwers with myths banging around in our heads still trying to kill each other.

We would be of no more interest to an advanced species than a someone walking by an ant colony and wondering if they think the Rolex shortage is manipulated.

[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by Blansky

We would be of no more interest to an advanced species than a someone walking by an ant colony and wondering if they think the Rolex shortage is manipulated.

It would seem we are of great interest to the phenomena, and they manipulate people. Delonge will go into this on the History Channel Show at the End of this month.

Delonge has written books (Sekret Machines series), which he fictitiously tries to convey some of the things going on.

This all goes very deep and is multi-faceted. Some facets will be easier to believe than others.

[djgallo]

Originally Posted by Blansky

"you can't handle the truth"

We are basically no different that spear throwers with myths banging around in our heads still trying to kill each other.

We would be of no more interest to an advanced species than a someone walking by an ant colony and wondering if they think the Rolex shortage is manipulated.

Haha

[gmh1013]

I would hope to see a day of disclosure on UFO's before I die. What are they? Time travelers?who knows.... I have been lucky enough to see the Phoenix Lights in 1997 and i saw another one with my mother on my 13th B-day
in 1970. Everybody who follows ufo's knows what the Phoenix lights looked like, the flying V that came from the N.W. and moved to S.S.E. I watched for a good 4-5 mins.
The first "object" was sphere about 10-12 feet in diameter on "fire" that looked like hot melting steel hovering about 10 ft or so off the ground about 40+ yards behind our house in Mesa AZ. We watched in our back yard as it slowly rise going faster as it gained altitude joining another long "cigar"shape craft and then both vanished.
When i lived in Tempe my next door neighbor was a co-pilot for America West airlines...and told me he had seen some strange stuff flying in the Air Force and one over New Mexico flying AWA on a night flight to Denver in the four corners area. He asked the Captain is he going to say anything about what they saw? His reply was hell no....you want to keep your job never say anything.

[VaRobot]

Originally Posted by gmh1013

I would hope to see a day of disclosure on UFO's before I die. What are they? Time travelers?who knows.... I have been lucky enough to see the Phoenix Lights in 1997 and i saw another one with my mother on my 13th B-day
in 1970. Everybody who follows ufo's knows what the Phoenix lights looked like, the flying V that came from the N.W. and moved to S.S.E. I watched for a good 4-5 mins.
The first "object" was sphere about 10-12 feet in diameter on "fire" that looked like hot melting steel hovering about 10 ft or so off the ground about 40+ yards behind our house in Mesa AZ. We watched in our back yard as it slowly rise going faster as it gned altitude joining another long "cigar"shape craft and then both vanished.
When i lived in Tempe my next door neighbor was a co-pilot for America West airlines...and told me he had seen some strange stuff flying in the Air Force and one over New Mexico flying AWA on a night flight to Denver in the four corners area. He asked the Captain is he going to say anything about what they saw? His reply was hell no....you want to keep your job never say anything.

Very cool stories! Thanks

Delonge wont tell you exactly what he "thinks" they are, that is up to each person when the look at the apparent facts.

[dtwer]

When it comes to civilizations outside of planet Earth I believe we are dealing with the probability rather than the possibility of finding them. There is little doubt life exists outside of Earth. The Drake equation as theorized by astrophysicist Frank Drake estimates what happens to life on Earth has likely happened 10 billion times in the entire universe over the cosmic history.

So it's not really a question of if, but when and where. But herein lies the biggest problem: the probability of us coming into contact with an alien civilization is in itself quite small.

Time is a factor. As our universe is estimated to be 13 billion years old, it is conceivable that vast majority of those alien civilizations may either have come and gone before our time or haven't been born yet. For the ones that exist now, many of them may be in the state of either single cell organism or dying from self-inflicted destruction.

Space is another factor. The closest galaxy to us, Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, is at a stunning distance of 25,000 light years away from us. Even the closest Earth-like planet, Kepler-186f, is located 490 light years away from us. For any alien civilization to overcome the distance to reach us, they would have to have invented some extreme method of travel that defies physics.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by dtwer

When it comes to civilizations outside of planet Earth I believe we are dealing with the probability rather than the possibility of finding them. There is little doubt life exists outside of Earth. The Drake equation as theorized by astrophysicist Frank Drake estimates what happens to life on Earth has likely happened 10 billion times in the entire universe over the cosmic history.

So it's not really a question of if, but when and where. But herein lies the biggest problem: the probability of us coming into contact with an alien civilization is in itself quite small.

Time is a factor. As our universe is estimated to be 13 billion years old, it is conceivable that vast majority of those alien civilizations may either have come and gone before our time or haven't been born yet. For the ones that exist now, many of them may be in the state of either single cell organism or dying from self-inflicted destruction.

Space is another factor. The closest galaxy to us, Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, is at a stunning distance of 25,000 light years away from us. Even the closest Earth-like planet, Kepler-186f, is located 490 light years away from us. For any alien civilization to overcome the distance to reach us, they would have to have invented some extreme method of travel that defies physics.

Or perhaps there is a way to slide from one realm of existence to another that isn't directly related to time/space.

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Or perhaps there is a way to slide from one realm of existence to another that isn't directly related to time/space.

Yes that's a good possibility. The question remains they have to know where to go first, before embarking on the warp speed. For someone from a distance of tens (or hundreds) of thousands of light years away to scan the universe that consists of millions of stars and planets and find the little blue dot call Earth, that would be a feat in itself.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by dtwer

When it comes to civilizations outside of planet Earth I believe we are dealing with the probability rather than the possibility of finding them. There is little doubt life exists outside of Earth. The Drake equation as theorized by astrophysicist Frank Drake estimates what happens to life on Earth has likely happened 10 billion times in the entire universe over the cosmic history.

So it's not really a question of if, but when and where. But herein lies the biggest problem: the probability of us coming into contact with an alien civilization is in itself quite small.

Time is a factor. As our universe is estimated to be 13 billion years old, it is conceivable that vast majority of those alien civilizations may either have come and gone before our time or haven't been born yet. For the ones that exist now, many of them may be in the state of either single cell organism or dying from self-inflicted destruction.

Space is another factor. The closest galaxy to us, Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, is at a stunning distance of 25,000 light years away from us. Even the closest Earth-like planet, Kepler-186f, is located 490 light years away from us. For any alien civilization to overcome the distance to reach us, they would have to have invented some extreme method of travel that defies physics.

I think my head just exploded.

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I think my head just exploded.

I know, sorry.

Space is simply fascinating to me.

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by dtwer

Space is another factor. The closest galaxy to us, Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, is at a stunning distance of 25,000 light years away from us. Even the closest Earth-like planet, Kepler-186f, is located 490 light years away from us. For any alien civilization to overcome the distance to reach us, they would have to have invented some extreme method of travel that defies physics.

This has always been my main thought on why there is virtually no chance UFOs are from outer space.