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Old 1 June 2019, 04:09 AM   #1
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Watches don't stay minty if worn, or why high prices make it less fun.

I bought a fairly minty 14270 to take the wear off my daily driver white gold 5296 calatrava, as well as have something nicer to wear on the weekends than my late Sinn.

It's only been about a month, but it's interesting how much "value" has come off the watch in terms of very small marks or two on the edge of the razor sharp lugs and bezel. I'm not doing anything i would think would be inappropriate even if it were a nautilus or something.

I had always looked at those Eric Ku impossibly NOS watches with great desire, but the reality is to actually wear them would be economically too irresponsible for someone with my approach to reasonably minimize consumption.

I'm not investing in watches at all, i do like the theoretical appeal that they lose value more slowly than other things i am interested in - that's all.

Maybe there's nice middle ground of tritium, 5 digit pieces that have some wear that would hold value but not be too expensive?

But it has changed for me the justification to put much more money into a small collection because the dings just show up.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:18 AM   #2
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This is why my last purchase was an Omega.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:46 AM   #3
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Well,imagine you got a ss Daytona 10 years ago,kept on stickers and sold it now ?
That is the facts of the crazy market and it dictates action from all involved ..ADs/Collectors/Flippers/Grey dealers etc.
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Old 2 June 2019, 01:51 AM   #4
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This is why my last purchase was an Omega.
My next may be as well. If not, perhaps Grand Seiko.
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Old 2 June 2019, 11:08 AM   #5
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My next may be as well. If not, perhaps Grand Seiko.

yes, i bought omega also for this reason
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:24 AM   #6
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That's why I bought a Tudor.

I have my eye on an AP but I know it will only look new for about an hour. While I am not careless with my watches they do get used.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:25 AM   #7
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Wear the hell out of it, and if you need to bring it back to NOS look, take it to LA Watchworks to work their magic... isn't that what a lot these shady vintage dealers do?
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:26 AM   #8
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My beater is gmt2c. The maxi case has a lot of metal for polishing so I don’t feel too bad. The 5 digits has slimmer case and imo easier to show over polishing.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:26 AM   #9
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Bought a NOS 2008 16618 to wear.
Bought a 16610LV in mint condition to wear and enjoy
Bought a beat-up 16710 to enjoy and wear
etc.

Why put so much concern into it, OP?

Just wear your watches.
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:21 AM   #10
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bought a nos 2008 16618 to wear.
Bought a 16610lv in mint condition to wear and enjoy
bought a beat-up 16710 to enjoy and wear
etc.

Why put so much concern into it, op?

Just wear your watches.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:27 AM   #11
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I buy watches to wear them. If I loss is minimized at time of sale or pick up a few bucks, that's just a bonus. What's the point of having a collection of watches you don't wear due to fear of depreciation?
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:36 AM   #12
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I completely agree with sentiment about wearing them and not worrying. Like I mentioned my daily beater is a Patek!

However, since the wearing them is a bit more of a matter of consumption than i had previously known, i'm just not going to buy as many as i thought i would at one stage - and certainly not pay a big premium.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:37 AM   #13
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actually, it was always a great idea to buy pre-owned in the past and let someone take the depreciation hit. but in this market, even pre-owned pieces are too overpriced.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:39 AM   #14
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This is why i wear a Rolex..because it's not a Patek level. Rolex is cheap from a luxury high end watch.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:42 AM   #15
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This is why i wear a Rolex..because it's not a Patek level. Rolex is cheap from a luxury high end watch.
Absolutely - a slightly used OP 39 from David SW is one of the best values going in watches write now.

A lot of the other fun rolex stuff has drifted recently out of the fun zone for my personal approach is all!

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Old 1 June 2019, 04:51 AM   #16
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I buy to wear. But I feel your pain. Scratches and dings happen. I don't like them. I won't pretend to. But it's part of life. So wear and enjoy. Come on here to cry about the scratches. and keep calm and carry on!
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Old 1 June 2019, 06:20 AM   #17
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I buy to wear. But I feel your pain. Scratches and dings happen. I don't like them. I won't pretend to. But it's part of life. So wear and enjoy. Come on here to cry about the scratches. and keep calm and carry on!
Cheers - and also evangelizing buying a Bergeon 7825 if you ever get the NATO bug or choose to clean under the end links!
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:53 AM   #18
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Watches don't stay minty if worn, or why high prices make it less fun.

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impossibly NOS watches

You have summed up the state of the "high-end" vintage market perfectly.
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Old 1 June 2019, 04:56 AM   #19
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I wear them, and I'm careful, and they stay looking great. It's not that difficult to do.
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:33 AM   #20
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I wear them, and I'm careful, and they stay looking great. It's not that difficult to do.

This.
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:38 AM   #21
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I wear them, and I'm careful, and they stay looking great. It's not that difficult to do.
Different strokes for different folks - can't simultaneously wear them carefree carefully.
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Old 1 June 2019, 05:11 AM   #22
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Just pay a little attention and take it off for a minute if you are doing some repairs or something. Couple of light scratches are unavoidable true but those are not realy an issue. No need to baby but also no need to abuse.
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Old 2 June 2019, 01:24 AM   #23
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Just pay a little attention and take it off for a minute if you are doing some repairs or something. Couple of light scratches are unavoidable true but those are not realy an issue. No need to baby but also no need to abuse.
I concur
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Old 1 June 2019, 05:15 AM   #24
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I get where you're coming from. This crazy market has made some watches so expensive it's almost silly to get one at market price and wear it. The solution to this, I suppose, is buying slightly used or, if new, never paying more than retail.
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:00 AM   #25
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Just forget all that and wear the watches. Otherwise, it is really not the fun it was intended to be.
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:12 AM   #26
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This is why i beat the sh*t out of the daily beater SS SkyD blue. So epic, handles whatever i throw at it... never take it off.... and she's +5 seconds... a month. In 10 or so years will send to service if/as needed and then get to start all over again.

Wear 'em. Enjoy your time.
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:29 AM   #27
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Watches are nothing more than materialistic possession. I beat them down equally. And cherish friendships.
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Old 1 June 2019, 07:50 AM   #28
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I have one nice watch. My explorer 214270 mk II. I didn’t buy it to open a safe and gaze at it, nor did I buy it to only wear on “special” occasions. But I did buy it as an investment, in a way. I bought it to wear it, to represent and tell the “time” in my life. It’s on my wrist almost always. It has been on adventures with me, it’s present at memorable moments, my kids know it and recognize it as dad’s watch, and I still smile whenever I check the time even on the most ordinary days. This market hype and unavailability is disappointing because of how much it dominates the discussions and how we talk about and experience our watches. But I won’t let it sap the joy out of actually wearing mine. Even if it seems it could be a while before I get another Rolex SS reference that I want. And if I ever do, you’d better believe I am going to be wearing that one, too.
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Old 1 June 2019, 08:10 AM   #29
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You’re looking at it all wrong!
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Old 1 June 2019, 08:36 AM   #30
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You're on the right track. Keep buying more. Spread the mileage baby!
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