Not very many 15300’s for sale

[lablulaybel]

Was curious as to why there are a good amount of 15202’s,15400’s,15500’s On the secondary market in the United States but there is very limited supply of 13300s right now?

[kneedeep]

Check Chrono24? It's a great 3 hand watch in a perfect size for many.

[cascavel]

The 15300 was the ideal Royal Oak which is why A/P decided to cancel it in favor of the oversized 15400 and now 15500. True aficionados are reluctant to sell their 15300s realizing that if they want to re-buy a 39mm R/O they will be stuck buying the 15202 with its antiquated movement and commensurately high price.
In time, assuming the 15300 isn't re-introduced into the R/O line, its price will exceed that of the 15202, taking into consideration factors of condition, of course.

[V25V]

Originally Posted by cascavel

The 15300 was the ideal Royal Oak which is why A/P decided to cancel it in favor of the oversized 15400 and now 15500. True aficionados are reluctant to sell their 15300s realizing that if they want to re-buy a 39mm R/O they will be stuck buying the 15202 with its antiquated movement and commensurately high price.
In time, assuming the 15300 isn't re-introduced into the R/O line, its price will exceed that of the 15202, taking into consideration factors of condition, of course.

Why I have kept mine and I nearly sold it.

[bluebeamer]

Originally Posted by V25V

Why I have kept mine and I nearly sold it.

the perfect AP

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by V25V

Why I have kept mine and I nearly sold it.

This picture just nullified all the talking down some like to indulge in.

AP at twelve is a big plus for me as are the proportions. All the dials are great and the watch is an obvious winner.

So few available because the numbers made weren't plentiful and they are loved by real, end user, owners.

[kneedeep]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

This picture just nullified all the talking down some like to indulge in.

AP at twelve is a big plus for me as are the proportions. All the dials are great and the watch is an obvious winner.

So few available because the numbers made weren't plentiful and they are loved by real, end user, owners.

Well said. It is wearable modern art IMO.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by kneedeep

Well said. It is wearable modern art IMO.

I agree, just an incredible version of the classic original.

[bluebeamer]

yup 15300 is the ideal size at 39mm

i feel as if the 15400 and 15500 are out of proportion and a lot of the dial space feels 'empty' when compared to 15300 and 15202.

i'd rather get an ROC at 41mm than the 15400/500

[karasus]

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

[masterserg]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

yeah, well, that's just like ... your opinion man ....

[V25V]

Originally Posted by masterserg

yeah, well, that's just like ... your opinion man ....

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[masterserg]

Originally Posted by V25V

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[V25V]

Originally Posted by masterserg

Love that movie.

[gsg]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

Disagree. I understand looks, proportions, etc. are subjective so there is no right or wrong answer here, but to me the 15300 even at 39mm is another bloated/beefier version of the jumbo which messes with the iconic proportions. The 15300 case is taller and the bracelet is also thicker making it less sophisticated than the 15202.

Also the 2121 movement (JLC's 921 mvnt.) in the 15202 might be older, but is by faaaar the most interesting and has the most pedigree from the lot. Unless any recent developments I might not be aware of, to date, the 2121 is the thinnest automatic full-rotor movement ever created and has hold that tittle for almost 50 years. Need to say more?

[karasus]

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.

15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.

15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.

15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

[DGB]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.



15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.



15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.



15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

Well said


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[MavaTalluru]

Originally Posted by karasus

15300 - best case proportions of all Genta designs(39mm) with good WR (screw down crown) and excellent shock resistant 60h (leave it for the weekend) power reserve. 9mm thin so quite wearable.



15202 - best case proportions but old movement design with meh shock resistance. Movement is thin not much you can do about have less steel to avoid bending the main plate during a fall. 8mm so very elegant.



15400 - 41mm but still quite thin at 9.8mm, decent case proportions for all wrists above 16.5cm not so great below. Same movement as 15300.



15500 - best movement and dial but horrible case pproportions for a sporty dress watch. Wears like an Offshore, but if you want a watch that feels like an offshore why not get an offshore... 10.4mm thick, that's as thick as a submariner a dive watch without the water resistance.

The submariner is 13mm and the 15500 is 10.4mm - how is it even the same ? Even the offshore is like 14.1mm.

If you consider the 15400 to be quite thin at 9.8mm - how can the 15500 be too thick at 10.4 ?

I am not defending the 15500 but I did not understand your logic.


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[vlps]

The 15300 really is the perfect AP. For anyone with a 6.5 inch wrist that finds the 15202 to be an awkward fit, give the 15300 a try. I use to own a brand new 15202st 40th anniversary that I could just never get a comfortable fit on, for that reason as beautiful and iconic as it was I had to get rid of it. The 15300 wears like butter on the wrist because the flair happens lower on the bracelet than the 15202 does. Seconds hand and screw down crown make the 15300 a better daily wear too. I think the fact that the 15300 is discontinued will continue to push prices up on it.

[AK797]

Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.

Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.

[Tomas Eriksson]

Originally Posted by AK797

Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.

Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.

Words of wisdom

[mr_gray]

Originally Posted by AK797

Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.

Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.

yes about the dials being a bit flat. also the white tended to take on a colour called "not white".

[blacke90]

Originally Posted by AK797

Was never convinced by the 15300 enough to buy it, it is bezel heavy and thus looked a bit chunky so not an elegant sports watch, the 15202 40th anniversary model is more that watch, didn't like the previous 202 iteration either, so I was always looking at ROOs instead. Dials are also a bit flat on all these 39mm models, as per the usual nods to Genta, much more vibrant on the newer models.



Not many around as they were discontinued a few years ago and then when the 40th 15202 came out these took up all the Oxygen so the 300 fell away, prices were as low as £6K a couple of years ago, reflecting this, before all the new resurgent hype.

Agree with the chunkiness.

[ChipWong]

Not sure why theres so much hype about the 15202-I understand its thin and elegant but a automatic watch needs to have a second hand-without it, the watch feels dead. Nothings sexier than a nice smooth second hand sweep....

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by blacke90

Agree with the chunkiness.

Odd, chunky would be the last way I would describe it. Even if it were true I wouldn't say it, I never understood down talking other peoples watches. Maybe I misunderstood, the thread was about the lack of 15300s on the market, was it not?

[blacke90]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

Odd, chunky would be the last way I would describe it. Even if it were true I wouldn't say it, I never understood down talking other peoples watches. Maybe I misunderstood, the thread was about the lack of 15300s on the market, was it not?

I responded to post #7 which relates to the 15300 market. Using the word “chunky” does not relate to down talking other people. 15300 is a thicker watch. Both the 15300 and 15202 have the sweet spot of 39mm.

Perhaps I should clarify the case and bracelet dimensions were much thicker on the 15300 compared to 15202.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by blacke90

I responded to post #7 which relates to the 15300 market. Using the word “chunky” does not relate to down talking other people. 15300 is a thicker watch. Both the 15300 and 15202 have the sweet spot of 39mm.

Perhaps I should clarify the case and bracelet dimensions were much thicker on the 15300 compared to 15202.

Well yes, you did respond to an off topic response, I grant you.

It's true, the 15300 is a little thicker than a 15202 but is still a slim watch in the general sense.

For my taste I agree with the post that enjoys a watch with a second hand. When I bought my 15300 I could have had a 15202 as well/instead but am extremely happy with the one Royal Oak I have, which was ultimately my point regarding the availability, their owners are satisfied and are keeping them.

[SMD]

Well, its been discontinued now for what 7+ years? That could be one reason.

[Gaphle]

I think because AP had 15300 produced from 2005(the release of cal 3120) late f series to merely early h series. When 15400 was introduced from 2012, mid h series until 2019 current k series. f series was app from 2001-2005,g was 2006-2010, h was 2011-

And back then, it was all about ROO. So even though 15400 had same production years, 15400 maybe 4 times more produced than 300s. I think 300 will be rarer than 15202 if they keep up their production.

[RoyalOac]

I presume because it is discontinued and highly sought after at the same time. :D