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rolexryan329 · 30 July 2019, 01:23 PM

It seems pretty normal to discuss negotiations with an AD (or at least it used to be). However, most of the more recent posts regarding these negotiations fall into the following buckets:

1.) "it's worth a shot to ask, the worst they can say is no"
2.) "you won't get a discount but you'll get free swag instead"
3.) "pay with cash, they *may* give you 3% if you're lucky"
4.) "in today's climate?? Not a chance. Instant blacklist as a matter of fact."

Specifically, I'm on the list for a Polar Explorer II. It isn't the most popular SS watch in the catalogue but does that make it negotiable? I put down the deposit and told them that I have cash in hand so I'm sure they know I'm not beating around the bush. Plus, I'll actually be paying in cash. Does this give me enough leverage to try and squeeze a reasonable discount?

Steerpike999 · 30 July 2019, 01:35 PM

You wont know if you don't ask.
Go for it.

42itus · 30 July 2019, 01:44 PM

I think if you’re dealing with a family owned AD you have a chance with cash. I ask every time.

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pickettt · 30 July 2019, 01:52 PM

Not if it's a SS Datejust.

Lgear080 · 30 July 2019, 02:04 PM

Is this a joke?

There are a line of people excited to pay msrp + tax. I actually think you should buy used if you’re looking for a discount. By all means feel free to ask, but if you hear a chuckle don’t be surprised.

jonnyz1245 · 30 July 2019, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Is this a joke?

There are a line of people excited to pay msrp + tax. I actually think you should buy used if you’re looking for a discount. By all means feel free to ask, but if you hear a chuckle don’t be surprised.

I know someone who got 5% off a SS Rolex in the last month from a US AD. All he did was ask.

Vamp · 31 July 2019, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Is this a joke?

There are a line of people excited to pay msrp + tax. I actually think you should buy used if you’re looking for a discount. By all means feel free to ask, but if you hear a chuckle don’t be surprised.

Exactly they probably would change their minds and not even sell it at retail to you if you’d ask for a discount! Lol do you realize the state we are in?

Frank McKay · 31 July 2019, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Is this a joke?

There are a line of people excited to pay msrp + tax. I actually think you should buy used if you’re looking for a discount. By all means feel free to ask, but if you hear a chuckle don’t be surprised.

My thoughts exactly. More shocking are the responses that are feeding into the asinine question Lol.

jrs146 · 30 July 2019, 02:08 PM

These days I never ask for a discount. My AD knows when they can and when they can’t. When they can they discount. Regardless though I pay what they tell me to. I think they appreciate that in this market I’m not haggling.

TswaneNguni · 30 July 2019, 02:26 PM

Polar 42mm paid MRSP but got less 5% on DJ41 fluted/blue/jubilee .

Wont hurt to ask,but chances are slim .

Xtralarg · 30 July 2019, 02:29 PM

1.True
2.Maybe
3.Cash is an inconvenience to big shops, it actually costs them money to bank it, plus the hassle of actually dealing with large amounts.
4.No

johnjm · 30 July 2019, 02:30 PM

That would be burning Bridges with the AD. They have secured you one and then you have the audacity to ask for a discount?

Demand and supply. If the balance tipped and they had to move the piece then it's possible.

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rolexryan329 · 30 July 2019, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steerpike999

You wont know if you don't ask.
Go for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgear080

Is this a joke?

There are a line of people excited to pay msrp + tax. I actually think you should buy used if you’re looking for a discount. By all means feel free to ask, but if you hear a chuckle don’t be surprised.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Polar 42mm paid MRSP but got less 5% on DJ41 fluted/blue/jubilee .

Wont hurt to ask,but chances are slim .

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjm

That would be burning Bridges with the AD. They have secured you one and then you have the audacity to ask for a discount?

Demand and supply. If the balance tipped and they had to move the piece then it's possible.

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Devil on the left shoulder: ask for the discount, it cant hurt
Angel on the other: Pay MSRP, play it safe

ruffa · 31 July 2019, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjm

That would be burning Bridges with the AD. They have secured you one and then you have the audacity to ask for a discount?

Demand and supply. If the balance tipped and they had to move the piece then it's possible.

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THIS. I wouldn’t ask for a discount on a SS piece. I’m friends with a sales rep at an AD and I feel comfortable asking if he can discount the rose gold GMT CHNR. He simply said “bro, we can’t even discount solid gold pieces”. True? Idk. But if demand is so high today, they aren’t required to discount. Some do, some don’t.

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maxymax · 30 July 2019, 02:41 PM

It’s a sellers market right now for Rolex. So, the chances are slim. No harm in asking though.

LeftCoastBias · 30 July 2019, 02:43 PM

Don’t ask on a stainless sport model (or any other allocation piece), but definitely ask on PM and datejusts.

minhc88 · 30 July 2019, 02:51 PM

Be prepared to be happy and pay full retail in this market... you will enjoy the whole experience of buying from AD more. Rather then just thinking about negotiations the whole time in the store. Drink lots of champagne to make up for the discount you would have got 2-3 years ago! Enjoy your new watch when it comes

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zengineer · 30 July 2019, 03:10 PM

Just a little negotiating tip...the time to go for a discount is before you agree to buy something and put down a cash deposit. They know you are not only going to buy the watch at full price but pay cash.

TswaneNguni · 30 July 2019, 03:15 PM

Polar 42mm at MRSP is a bargain anyway .Great design !

Easy E · 31 July 2019, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zengineer

Just a little negotiating tip...the time to go for a discount is before you agree to buy something and put down a cash deposit. They know you are not only going to buy the watch at full price but pay cash.

I have a deposit down on a Polar. Before I said order it I asked " is there anything you can do on this one?" Without fuss or fanfare my SA gave me 10%. This was just a couple of months ago. Watch should be here anytime. If you don't ask the answer is always no.

Now, in all fairness this was a two watch deal. Watch #2, you ask?....116619LB, 20% off on that also. Can't wait.

Good luck.

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Nairn1980 · 30 July 2019, 03:39 PM

I’d actually say in the current climate it can be detrimental to relationship (especially when a steel sports piece)

daOnlyBG · 30 July 2019, 03:49 PM

An Explorer II might not be the most in-demand watch- but it is still in more demand than the vast majority of whatever the AD has. They can sell any one in an hour if they want; if you're going to ask for a discount, you probably shouldn't do so without any leverage (and finding leverage against a Rolex AD is tougher than finding a Rolex at a Goodwill shop).

Fleetlord · 30 July 2019, 03:51 PM

Full price is fair price

travisb · 30 July 2019, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

Full price is fair price

Truth.
Doesn't hurt to ask but don't expect anything.

shawn13ca · 30 July 2019, 03:51 PM

No discount on ss for now. Wait at least until the next major recession.

jimcameron · 30 July 2019, 05:56 PM

Give it a try. Maybe they'll give you a nice ball cap.

The M3 Guy · 30 July 2019, 07:47 PM

I think you will be kindly guided by the sales assistant at time of purchase something like Rolex stipulates all there stores sell at the same retail price and would be careful not to press the subject, I was happy to pay full price for my watch.

omx5o · 30 July 2019, 07:52 PM

I've given up asking for a discount on SS. Will only ask on PM models now. Every time you are denied a discount but still buy the watch I think will diminish your chance of getting a good discount in future.

Harry-57 · 30 July 2019, 08:05 PM

If you don't ask you don't get. You should always ask but be prepared to pay the MSRP. If a discount is not on the cards, some other goodies may be thrown in. In the current climate the likelihood of obtaining a discount on the price is essentially zero. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't ask.

I got a discount on the Bluesy I brought last November. The previous three they sold had gone for MSRP because the buyers hadn't even thought to ask for a discount. That's a trend which should not be followed, even if you pretty much know the outcome.

AK797 · 30 July 2019, 08:41 PM

ADs are so on the look out for flippers and bad actors that I just wouldn't risk it or looking like a rube.

30 July 2019, 01:23 PM	#1
rolexryan329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NYC Watch: 116610LN Posts: 195	Asking for a discount on SS from an AD these days.. is it mental? It seems pretty normal to discuss negotiations with an AD (or at least it used to be). However, most of the more recent posts regarding these negotiations fall into the following buckets: 1.) "it's worth a shot to ask, the worst they can say is no" 2.) "you won't get a discount but you'll get free swag instead" 3.) "pay with cash, they may give you 3% if you're lucky" 4.) "in today's climate?? Not a chance. Instant blacklist as a matter of fact." Specifically, I'm on the list for a Polar Explorer II. It isn't the most popular SS watch in the catalogue but does that make it negotiable? I put down the deposit and told them that I have cash in hand so I'm sure they know I'm not beating around the bush. Plus, I'll actually be paying in cash. Does this give me enough leverage to try and squeeze a reasonable discount?

30 July 2019, 02:08 PM	#9
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	These days I never ask for a discount. My AD knows when they can and when they can’t. When they can they discount. Regardless though I pay what they tell me to. I think they appreciate that in this market I’m not haggling. __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

30 July 2019, 02:30 PM	#12
johnjm "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Africa Posts: 1,152	That would be burning Bridges with the AD. They have secured you one and then you have the audacity to ask for a discount? Demand and supply. If the balance tipped and they had to move the piece then it's possible. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk __________________ 114300;116710;116500;114060;126710;5500;6084

30 July 2019, 02:43 PM	#16
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30 July 2019, 03:49 PM	#22
daOnlyBG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Odorious Onion Watch: yes, it's hipster Posts: 1,587	An Explorer II might not be the most in-demand watch- but it is still in more demand than the vast majority of whatever the AD has. They can sell any one in an hour if they want; if you're going to ask for a discount, you probably shouldn't do so without any leverage (and finding leverage against a Rolex AD is tougher than finding a Rolex at a Goodwill shop). __________________ Here come dat boi Jerry

30 July 2019, 01:35 PM	#2
Steerpike999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Melbourne Watch: A few..... Posts: 931	You wont know if you don't ask. Go for it.

30 July 2019, 01:44 PM	#3
42itus "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Tom Location: Honolulu Watch: 116519LN Posts: 3,828	I think if you’re dealing with a family owned AD you have a chance with cash. I ask every time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 July 2019, 01:52 PM	#4
pickettt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Watch: Shiny One Posts: 5,443	Not if it's a SS Datejust.

30 July 2019, 02:04 PM	#5
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Is this a joke? There are a line of people excited to pay msrp + tax. I actually think you should buy used if you’re looking for a discount. By all means feel free to ask, but if you hear a chuckle don’t be surprised.

30 July 2019, 02:26 PM	#10
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Polar 42mm paid MRSP but got less 5% on DJ41 fluted/blue/jubilee . Wont hurt to ask,but chances are slim .

30 July 2019, 02:29 PM	#11
Xtralarg "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: London/Dubai Posts: 713	1.True 2.Maybe 3.Cash is an inconvenience to big shops, it actually costs them money to bank it, plus the hassle of actually dealing with large amounts. 4.No

30 July 2019, 02:41 PM	#15
maxymax "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: CT Posts: 721	It’s a sellers market right now for Rolex. So, the chances are slim. No harm in asking though.

30 July 2019, 02:51 PM	#17
minhc88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: vancouver Posts: 161	Be prepared to be happy and pay full retail in this market... you will enjoy the whole experience of buying from AD more. Rather then just thinking about negotiations the whole time in the store. Drink lots of champagne to make up for the discount you would have got 2-3 years ago! Enjoy your new watch when it comes Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk

30 July 2019, 03:10 PM	#18
zengineer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,588	Just a little negotiating tip...the time to go for a discount is before you agree to buy something and put down a cash deposit. They know you are not only going to buy the watch at full price but pay cash.

30 July 2019, 03:15 PM	#19
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	Polar 42mm at MRSP is a bargain anyway .Great design !

30 July 2019, 03:39 PM	#21
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,385	I’d actually say in the current climate it can be detrimental to relationship (especially when a steel sports piece)

30 July 2019, 03:51 PM	#23
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,011	Full price is fair price

30 July 2019, 03:51 PM	#25
shawn13ca "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 300	No discount on ss for now. Wait at least until the next major recession.

30 July 2019, 05:56 PM	#26
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	Give it a try. Maybe they'll give you a nice ball cap.

30 July 2019, 07:47 PM	#27
The M3 Guy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: New Zealand Posts: 79	I think you will be kindly guided by the sales assistant at time of purchase something like Rolex stipulates all there stores sell at the same retail price and would be careful not to press the subject, I was happy to pay full price for my watch.

30 July 2019, 07:52 PM	#28
omx5o "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: UK Watch: Tudor Ranger Posts: 1,613	I've given up asking for a discount on SS. Will only ask on PM models now. Every time you are denied a discount but still buy the watch I think will diminish your chance of getting a good discount in future.

30 July 2019, 08:05 PM	#29
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,639	If you don't ask you don't get. You should always ask but be prepared to pay the MSRP. If a discount is not on the cards, some other goodies may be thrown in. In the current climate the likelihood of obtaining a discount on the price is essentially zero. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't ask. I got a discount on the Bluesy I brought last November. The previous three they sold had gone for MSRP because the buyers hadn't even thought to ask for a discount. That's a trend which should not be followed, even if you pretty much know the outcome.

30 July 2019, 08:41 PM	#30
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	ADs are so on the look out for flippers and bad actors that I just wouldn't risk it or looking like a rube.

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