Should I manually wind

[mohillips]

Hey everyone,

Am new to this watch game and am rocking a DJ41 126300.

Should I ever manually wind it if wearing everyday?

I wouldn't think I need to

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[joli160]

None of mine need it but I wind them from time to time, kind a like the feel of how the clutches engage and the butter smooth operation if that makes any sense.

Besides, the rotor is for keeping the spring under tension more or less as it is and not to fully wind it is what I believe.

[watchmaker]

Originally Posted by joli160

None of mine need it but I wind them from time to time, kind a like the feel of how the clutches engage and the butter smooth operation if that makes any sense.

Besides, the rotor is for keeping the spring under tension more or less as it is and not to fully wind it is what I believe.

Correct

Your Rolex may or may not require manual winding after the initial full wind (40 turns of the crown). It all stems from your level of wrist activity (dirty minds need not apply )

[Rocket_Man]

I wind it when I set the time, which is pretty seldom. Normally at the end of each month I might need to change the date, adjust the time, wind it up.

[TheWatchStandard]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Correct

Your Rolex may or may not require manual winding after the initial full wind (40 turns of the crown). It all stems from your level of wrist activity (dirty minds need not apply )

[Andad]

Originally Posted by joli160

None of mine need it but I wind them from time to time, kind a like the feel of how the clutches engage and the butter smooth operation if that makes any sense.

Besides, the rotor is for keeping the spring under tension more or less as it is and not to fully wind it is what I believe.

The rotor will fully wind it if until the mainspring slips in the barrel if you are reasonably active during the day.

[Ar_Mi]

I just wind it fully once and if I'm wearing it everyday, it never needs to be wound again until I put it back in the safe and rotate to another. No need to wind it every night, unless your literally barely moving throughout the day, which is unlikely.

[p3rsian]

Originally Posted by Ar_Mi

I just wind it fully once and if I'm wearing it everyday, it never needs to be wound again until I put it back in the safe and rotate to another. No need to wind it every night, unless your literally barely moving throughout the day, which is unlikely.

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[fania123]

I keep mine on winders so no worry there.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by mohillips

Hey everyone,

Am new to this watch game and am rocking a DJ41 126300.

Should I ever manually wind it if wearing everyday?

I wouldn't think I need to

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It will do no harm whatsoever to manual wind say once a week or so even if worn,many are not active enough to fully wind the mainspring to full peak power reserve. Yes they will be ticking but thats all,just think of all the manual wind watches with screw down crowns Rolex included, they got wound almost daily for decades.

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by padi56

It will do no harm whatsoever to manual wind say once a week or so even if worn,many are not active enough to fully wind the mainspring to full peak power reserve. Yes they will be ticking but thats all,just think of all the manual wind watches with screw down crowns Rolex included, they got wound almost daily for decades.

Exactly

[jareemy8]

Just my personal opinion, manually winding my watches allows me bond with them over time.

[Calatrava r]

Should be unnecessary. If it is, due the watch stopping with daily wear, the watch is not working right.

Bear in mind not everybody is a candidate for an automatic timepiece. If you have a very sedentary lifestyle and tend not to use your arms otherwise in regular ranges of active motion and swinging, even daily wear may not be enough to wind the watch. An example might be a person who just wears the watch to sit at a desk and spends most of the time in the same position. Then you should wind.

[othertbone]

I believe watches are not as accurate when the power reserve is low, so if your activity does not keep the mainspring reasonably powered, performance may suffer. So give it a full charge now and then. Can't hurt imo.

[Roddypeepa]

Originally Posted by othertbone

I believe watches are not as accurate when the power reserve is low, so if your activity does not keep the mainspring reasonably powered, performance may suffer. So give it a full charge now and then. Can't hurt imo.

Mine barely lose any time on the wrist and overnight but 24 h in the safe and they drop a few seconds.


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[Dirt]

As it has been stated before.
It really depends upon your level of activity.
Assuming you are wearing the watch for the bulk of the day. If you're living a sedentary lifestyle it may not maintain its state of wind. If you are active, it may reach a full wind in a matter of hours on the wrist from a dead stopped condition.

Try experimenting with it yourself and get to know your personal situation.
For example, I can put any dead stopped Automatic wind watch on in the morning and wear it for 8 hours in a normal day. At the end of the 8 hour period, the watch is typically at or very near the fully wound condition. But that's just me.
Your experience may or will likely differ.

[Seibei]

No, do not be manipulating your crown and winding. Don't develop an unnecessary habit that will over the years wear parts of your watch for no reason.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Seibei

No, do not be manipulating your crown and winding. Don't develop an unnecessary habit that will over the years wear parts of your watch for no reason.

Complete and utter nonsense.

[jatco]

Originally Posted by Seibei

No, do not be manipulating your crown and winding. Don't develop an unnecessary habit that will over the years wear parts of your watch for no reason.

Originally Posted by padi56

Complete and utter nonsense.

Which is it then..??
.
My watchmaker suggests that when your watch as stopped, to just give it a few winds to get it running, then wear it...to bring it up to snuff. --
Had to have the Tudor serviced 'coz of probable excessive winding..to the gear(s) inside, not the crown itself. - again..!

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by jatco

Which is it then..??
.
My watchmaker suggests that when your watch as stopped, to just give it a few winds to get it running, then wear it...to bring it up to snuff. --
Had to have the Tudor serviced 'coz of probable excessive winding..to the gear(s) inside, not the crown itself. - again..!

The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Just it always does.

IMO, your watchmaker is mostly correct.
This issue comes up from time to time and we always have the same range of responses. I can say that one very highly regarded watchmaker around these forums has stated something to the effect, that extra servicing requirements are called for due to excessive manual winding of Automatic Rolex movements. The causes for this occurance vary but it mostly stems from ignorance and inexperience.

Consider this.
For the last few decades, Rolex movements have been primarily designed to operate as Automatic winding movements.
They are not designed primarily as a manual wind movement with some sort of Automatic winding mechanism tacked onto it. Even though the Automatic winding mechanisms are added in a modular format.
With regard to our modern Rolex watches, the owners manual does not reflect any recommendation to manually wind the watch every day. Or for that matter as much as you feel like when ever you feel like it.
Automatic winding movements can indeed be wound manually to excess by the operator, simply because there is no clear indicator as to when to stop winding as is the case with exclusively manual wound movements.
Also remember that the old Seiko Autos never had any manual wind capability at all and relied exclusively on day to day wrist movement. I still have one somewhere around here

Personally, I just give our Rolex watches a few turns on the manual wind to kick start them a little and a quick shake to unlock the escapment if and when it's required. Then set the time and date on the watch normally. Put the watch on and let physics do the rest.
No problem what so ever. Even with timekeeping.

Of course, someone who is sedentary or borderline comatose or even heavily sedated may have a problem with this simple procedure, and may need to manually wind their Automatic watches.

[jatco]

Originally Posted by Dirt

The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Just it always does.

IMO, your watchmaker is mostly correct.
This issue comes up from time to time and we always have the same range of responses. I can say that one very highly regarded watchmaker around these forums has stated something to the effect, that extra servicing requirements are called for due to excessive manual winding of Automatic Rolex movements. The causes for this occurance vary but it mostly stems from ignorance and inexperience.

Consider this.
For the last few decades, Rolex movements have been primarily designed to operate as Automatic winding movements.
They are not designed primarily as a manual wind movement with some sort of Automatic winding mechanism tacked onto it. Even though the Automatic winding mechanisms are added in a modular format.
With regard to our modern Rolex watches, the owners manual does not reflect any recommendation to manually wind the watch every day. Or for that matter as much as you feel like when ever you feel like it.
Automatic winding movements can indeed be wound manually to excess by the operator, simply because there is no clear indicator as to when to stop winding as is the case with exclusively manual wound movements.
Also remember that the old Seiko Autos never had any manual wind capability at all and relied exclusively on day to day wrist movement. I still have one somewhere around here

Personally, I just give our Rolex watches a few turns on the manual wind to kick start them a little and a quick shake to unlock the escapment if and when it's required. Then set the time and date on the watch normally. Put the watch on and let physics do the rest.
No problem what so ever. Even with timekeeping.

Of course, someone who is sedentary or borderline comatose or even heavily sedated may have a problem with this simple procedure, and may need to manually wind their Automatic watches.

Excellent

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by Dirt

For the last few decades, Rolex movements have been primarily designed to operate as Automatic winding movements.
They are not designed primarily as a manual wind movement with some sort of Automatic winding mechanism tacked onto it. Even though the Automatic winding mechanisms are added in a modular format.
With regard to our modern Rolex watches, the owners manual does not reflect any recommendation to manually wind the watch every day. Or for that matter as much as you feel like when ever you feel like it.
Automatic winding movements can indeed be wound manually to excess by the operator, simply because there is no clear indicator as to when to stop winding as is the case with exclusively manual wound movements.
Also remember that the old Seiko Autos never had any manual wind capability at all and relied exclusively on day to day wrist movement. I still have one somewhere around here

.

I also have one of these old Seikos, quite interesting. To get it going you would have to shake it a few times.

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by Dirt

I can say that one very highly regarded watchmaker around these forums has stated something to the effect, that extra servicing requirements are called for due to excessive manual winding of Automatic Rolex movements. The causes for this occurance vary but it mostly stems from ignorance and inexperience.

Consider this.
For the last few decades, Rolex movements have been primarily designed to operate as Automatic winding movements.
They are not designed primarily as a manual wind movement with some sort of Automatic winding mechanism tacked onto it. Even though the Automatic winding mechanisms are added in a modular format.
With regard to our modern Rolex watches, the owners manual does not reflect any recommendation to manually wind the watch every day. Or for that matter as much as you feel like when ever you feel like it.
Automatic winding movements can indeed be wound manually to excess by the operator, simply because there is no clear indicator as to when to stop winding as is the case with exclusively manual wound movements.
Also remember that the old Seiko Autos never had any manual wind capability at all and relied exclusively on day to day wrist movement. I still have one somewhere around here.

Amen, great post.

[brucethemanlee]

Originally Posted by Seibei

No, do not be manipulating your crown and winding. Don't develop an unnecessary habit that will over the years wear parts of your watch for no reason.

That's wrong


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[Seibei]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

That's wrong


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So, screwing and unscrewing the crown and manipulating it thousands of times causes no wear? Good to know.

[brucethemanlee]

Originally Posted by Seibei

So, screwing and unscrewing the crown and manipulating it thousands of times causes no wear? Good to know.

Yes....

I guess one can keep their watch in a plastic bag and sock drawer and wear gloves and avoid all forms of touching as well... but everyone is different

Cheers

[Seibei]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

Yes....

I guess one can keep their watch in a plastic bag and sock drawer and wear gloves and avoid all forms of touching as well... but everyone is different

Cheers

I just wear my watch and avoid constantly fiddling with it for no reason.

[sillo]

Originally Posted by Seibei

No, do not be manipulating your crown and winding. Don't develop an unnecessary habit that will over the years wear parts of your watch for no reason.

The crown is usually considered a "wear part" anyway and often replaced during routine service.

[jatco]

Originally Posted by sillo38

The crown is usually considered a "wear part" anyway and often replaced during routine service.

Really....

[padi56]

Originally Posted by jatco

Really....

Winding crowns are often replaced at normal routine service,crown tubes are always replaced.