Comments about Grand Seiko

[JParm]

This is 1 of the 2 watches I brought with me during Thanksgiving break and posted it here on TRF; another forum member had this to say about it:

"I really don’t mean to sound rude (great collection by the way) but how on earth do you EVER choose to wear that GS over a day date?!?! Blows my mind when people have watches like a Day date and still choose to ever wear something like a GS."

Grand Seiko, you pariah!! Needless to say, I don't think he'll be coming over to the Seiko forum anytime soon...

[brandrea]

Easy ... there is no accounting for good taste.

[Locust]

That person literally knows nothing about watches and Horology. Nothing.

[Talbel]

Beautiful watch. Some people will just never get it and that’s fine. Too each their own. I can understand why some people are “married” to a brand, but for me collecting watches is about experiencing as many of the different options as possible. I own Rolex too, but in my opinion GS and many others are every bit as good. Enjoy that beauty!

[Old Expat Beast]

He's since been banned. Not for his poor knowledge of GS, I might add. (I checked )

[scarlet knight]

Glad to hear that person is gone.

Great looking watch! Enjoy it!

I am a Rolex Bluesy owner. I like the watch, but people have some harsh comments on it ( looks like it’s from the ‘80s, schlocky, for old people, etc.)

I like it, I bought it. If they don’t like it, they don’t have to buy it.

Thumbs up on the courtesy of the regulars on the Seiko forum.

[nworbled]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

He's since been banned. Not for his poor knowledge of GS, I might add. (I checked )

[Erson]

There are many people say the finishing of Grand Seiko is comparable to Patek. So GS vs Rolex = GS better

but the brand rolex is worldwide, so people will appreciate rolex more

[nworbled]

That's a great looking Grand Seiko. I'm a watch newbie compared to most forum members here but I can definitely appreciate the quality of GS...I look forward to owning one in the near future as soon as I can narrow down which one I want. I'm looking forward to what Grand Seiko has in store for 2020.

[1William]

A great looking watch. I think Seiko/Grand Seiko for many of us is part of a journey and as you get into watches, brands, functions and the details of watches it is a road that is well worn. I think that it is somewhat funny that typically the less you know, the stronger the statements are. I see members here on TRF blasting other members and brands but typically they have just joined and their watch knowledge typically shows through. I hope to have a lot of Seiko's and Grand Seiko's in my collection as they are a favorite.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by 1William

A great looking watch. I think Seiko/Grand Seiko for many of us is part of a journey and as you get into watches, brands, functions and the details of watches it is a road that is well worn. I think that it is somewhat funny that typically the less you know, the stronger the statements are. I see members here on TRF blasting other members and brands but typically they have just joined and their watch knowledge typically shows through. I hope to have a lot of Seiko's and Grand Seiko's in my collection as they are a favorite.

Great point. While we all have brands or watches that we'd rather not purchase or could care less about, I think most of us can at least appreciate a brand's history / heritage and understand why someone would want a specific watch, regardless of our personal thoughts about the specific watch itself.

[Randy63]

Originally Posted by 1William

I hope to have a lot of Seiko's and Grand Seiko's in my collection as they are a favorite.

You don't need to hope. You're already there.


Randy

[Chewbacca]

Funny.

[Bearxj86]

Many of us Patek collectors LOVE GS. Amazing dials and best in class at that price point or any price point

In this pic one can argue the GS wins:




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[DVR]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

or any price point

Strong emphasis on 'any price point' , nothing compares to GS finish of dial and hands. Even PP looks 'flat' compared. And PP is anything but 'ordinary' , it's just GS is on an other planet.

Originally Posted by bearxj86

In this pic one can argue the GS wins:

Clear win for GS, turn watch around and PP takes it home. GS dials/hands are what Patek/Lange is to movement finish and decoration.

[thegrandseikoguy]

Originally Posted by DVR

Strong emphasis on 'any price point' , nothing compares to GS finish of dial and hands...

Except for Greubel Forsey.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

Many of us Patek collectors LOVE GS. Amazing dials and best in class at that price point or any price point

In this pic one can argue the GS wins:


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I am one of them! Though I don't agree with the 2nd statement.

[Bearxj86]

Originally Posted by benlee

I am one of them! Though I don't agree with the 2nd statement.

Well yeah - the 5170P is pretty darn amazing. However the fact that the GS is even being mentioned in the same sentence as a watch x15 the price is saying something.

[efthi]

Love my Snowflake that I got just a week ago and under the lupe it’s OMG!!! Amazing piece, unbelievable price



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[mgsooner]

the 253 is one of my favorite watches released over the last few years, regardless of brand.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

the 253 is one of my favorite watches released over the last few years, regardless of brand.

It is fantastic, which is not a word I use often (if ever). GS knocked it out of the park with this one.

[DoctorA]

I have to admit, I once thought the same! Why on earth would I “downgrade” to a GS??
And boy was I wrong!
Some of you might have read my posts on here asking for advice about getting my first seiko, then first GS!
I’m blessed with a great rolex collection that hits every “hot” model there is but since I put GS on my wrist I have been blown away by the quality, craftsmanship, attention to details, and beauty

IMHO some of the GS models would go for $20s K if the same watch has PP or the rolex crown on it!
So for those after a great watch, details, and beauty, to me GS is up there with PP, AP and rolex but at a fraction of the price!!

[ganiccus]

Always thought Seiko should have picked another name than Grand Seiko to brand their luxury division, just like Lexus is not called Grand Toyota, that sounds a little bit silly imo.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by ganiccus

Always thought Seiko should have picked another name than Grand Seiko to brand their luxury division, just like Lexus is not called Grand Toyota, that sounds a little bit silly imo.

Probably seemed a better idea 60 years ago when Grand Seiko and King Seiko were going head to head in a joint offensive to outdo the Swiss in competition for mechanical accuracy (which they achieved within a decade)

[DVR]

Originally Posted by ganiccus

Always thought Seiko should have picked another name than Grand Seiko to brand their luxury division, just like Lexus is not called Grand Toyota, that sounds a little bit silly imo.

In Japan 'Lexus' does not exist. In Japan and Europe 'Acura' does not exist.
Honda's top range car is the NSX.

So it is a state of mind really.
I am very happy with my Grand Seiko's.

You can't compare a GS to brands like Rolex or Omega.
They play on an other level, the unique GS level.

Nice short read :

https://www.gq.com/story/wes-lang-grand-seiko
"A $5,300 Grand Seiko GMT that looks and ticks like it costs $50K."

[nworbled]

Originally Posted by DVR

In Japan 'Lexus' does not exist. In Japan and Europe 'Acura' does not exist.
Honda's top range car is the NSX.

So it is a state of mind really.
I am very happy with my Grand Seiko's.

You can't compare a GS to brands like Rolex or Omega.
They play on an other level, the unique GS level.

Nice short read :

https://www.gq.com/story/wes-lang-grand-seiko
"A $5,300 Grand Seiko GMT that looks and ticks like it costs $50K."

Au contraire, mon frère. When Lexus was first introduced by Toyota in 1989 it was not in Japan. However, Lexus branded vehicles have been in Japan since 2005.

But anyway, I see both sides of the coin regarding Grand Seiko’s naming. It’s really a name (and brand) that true watch enthusiasts can understand and appreciate. People who automatically write off the brand solely based on its name are usually either ignorant or elitist.

That being said, I’ve been guilty of dismissing a watch based on its brand name without being educated on the brand or the watch.

[DVR]

Originally Posted by nworbled

Au contraire, mon frère. When Lexus was first introduced by Toyota in 1989 it was not in Japan. However, Lexus branded vehicles have been in Japan since 2005.

Thanks for correcting me. But my point stands.
From 1989 to 2005 Lexus did not exist in Japan and honestly I never bothered to check if it had changed as I just don't care about all that 'image' stuff.

[Frogman]

He should compare them under a loupe then he might start to understand.
Some people hang their confidence on wearing a Rolex.
Theres so much more to the hobby than Rolex.
Not knocking them, but theres so many other great options too.

[DVR]

Originally Posted by nworbled

When Lexus was first introduced by Toyota in 1989 it was not in Japan. However, Lexus branded vehicles have been in Japan since 2005.

I would like to come back to this. In Japan the 'halo' car is still a Toyota.

Great read if you like Japanese culture.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big...-century-japan

[JTL31]

Originally Posted by DVR

Nice short read :

https://www.gq.com/story/wes-lang-grand-seiko
"A $5,300 Grand Seiko GMT that looks and ticks like it costs $50K."

Thanks for sharing! That GMT looks phenomenal :)