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Old 16 December 2019, 10:34 AM   #1
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New member needs help with my DSSD 44mm

Long time lurker and first time owner just got my first Rolex 2019 Deepsea 44mm ref. 126660.

Shopping at some of the reputable AD in London few weeks ago during my vacation. I had choice of DSSD44 and a YM 37 around Bond St. in 2 different stores. I decided to go with DS44 at the end. I dont mind the weight and I originally wanted a Sub or GMT-II but knowing it's hard to come by with any steel professional, DS44 is very close in terms of look.

Love the watch, but I am being careful with identifying the watch since there are lots of fakes. Watched so many youtube and I have few concerns about my DS44 even when I think there is no way I am being fooled... But I just need to be careful...

1. I can not see laser etching at 6 o'clock. I used 30x magnified glass and looked for a long time but I just can't see it no matter how I turn my DS. DS has 5.5mm magnified domed sapphire. Perhaps there is none with this one? I noticed my watch has a Rolex Crown at 6 o'clock between "SWISS" and "MADE" matching 2019 DSSD on official website so perhaps 2019 DS doesnt have laser etching any more?

2. When winding the watch in position 1, there are slight ticking when going clockwise but counter-clockwise has less ticking with less resistance. is this correct with 3235?

3. Some youtube shows when you adjust watch with position 3, if you wind clockwise, the minute hand supposed to go clockwise. But mine is opposite.... The movement is 3235. Can anyone with 3235 movement confirm this for me?

Rehault serial number matches my card and the box has everythingin it. Everything else feels solid and checked out but the above 3 things are bothering me....

Anyone? Thanks
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Old 16 December 2019, 12:27 PM   #2
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If you bought the watch from an AD then it is authentic, it really isn't any more complicated than that.
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:01 PM   #3
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You got it from the AD, why are you even thinking about this. If someone even walks into an AD wearing a fake, it’s confiscated. Stop worrying...
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:01 PM   #4
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I can’t speak to the 3235, but my 3285 winds counterclockwise with clockwise crown turns. As far as the laser etching goes, I have never seen laser etching in my 116660. The crystal is like 5.5mm thick and I don’t think it is etched.

Ok, I just put the DSSD on a loupe, and yes it has laser etching. Took about .5 seconds to see it. Look at the six o’clock the turn so 6:00 of the crystal has a black dial back drop. Try using less than a 30x. That’s too much. Use about 8x.
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:05 PM   #5
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Long time lurker and first time owner just got my first Rolex 2019 Deepsea 44mm ref. 126660.

Shopping at some of the reputable AD in London few weeks ago during my vacation. I had choice of DSSD44 and a YM 37 around Bond St. in 2 different stores. I decided to go with DS44 at the end. I dont mind the weight and I originally wanted a Sub or GMT-II but knowing it's hard to come by with any steel professional, DS44 is very close in terms of look.

Love the watch, but I am being careful with identifying the watch since there are lots of fakes. Watched so many youtube and I have few concerns about my DS44 even when I think there is no way I am being fooled... But I just need to be careful...

1. I can not see laser etching at 6 o'clock. I used 30x magnified glass and looked for a long time but I just can't see it no matter how I turn my DS. DS has 5.5mm magnified domed sapphire. Perhaps there is none with this one? I noticed my watch has a Rolex Crown at 6 o'clock between "SWISS" and "MADE" matching 2019 DSSD on official website so perhaps 2019 DS doesnt have laser etching any more?

2. When winding the watch in position 1, there are slight ticking when going clockwise but counter-clockwise has less ticking with less resistance. is this correct with 3235?

3. Some youtube shows when you adjust watch with position 3, if you wind clockwise, the minute hand supposed to go clockwise. But mine is opposite.... The movement is 3235. Can anyone with 3235 movement confirm this for me?

Rehault serial number matches my card and the box has everythingin it. Everything else feels solid and checked out but the above 3 things are bothering me....

Anyone? Thanks
Welcome.

Niceties now out of the way...

How about some pictures so you can get some good info?

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Old 16 December 2019, 01:21 PM   #6
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The 3235 mvmt. does set CC. All Rolex have the LEC since 2001ish besides the MilgaussGV. I have a 2004 16710 and I couldn't find the LEC with a loupe. I had my jeweler look at it through a microscope and sure enough it was there. Of course the LEC is under the crystal and being your DSSD crystal is extra thick (thinking) it's probably the hardest to spot.

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Deep Sea doesn't have the etched crystal as it affects the crystal at depth.

The winding crown doesn't do anything in the non-winding direction except ratchet.
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:31 PM   #8
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Deep Sea doesn't have the etched crystal as it affects the crystal at depth.

The winding crown doesn't do anything in the non-winding direction except ratchet.
It does, I just louped mine and 100% it’s there.
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:31 PM   #9
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Deep Sea doesn't have the etched crystal as it affects the crystal at depth.

The winding crown doesn't do anything in the non-winding direction except ratchet.
I didn't know that about the etch or lack of on the DSSD
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I didn't know that about the etch or lack of on the DSSD
I thought that I had read that someplace, but the poster above seems to contradict, and says that his Deep Sea does have the etched coronet.
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:39 PM   #11
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:40 PM   #12
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I dread the day you get your first scratch on the watch...
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Old 16 December 2019, 04:18 PM   #13
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I dread the day you get your first scratch on the watch...
lol, I know it's inevitable to happen. I have bumped it to the door/desk a few times with my long sleeve on and so far still looks brand new.

But knowing most of the light scratches can eventually be buff off when I service my watch, the confidence level is sure increased.
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Old 16 December 2019, 01:45 PM   #14
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1. I can not see laser etching at 6 o'clock. I used 30x magnified glass and looked for a long time but I just can't see it no matter how I turn my DS. DS has 5.5mm magnified domed sapphire. Perhaps there is none with this one? I noticed my watch has a Rolex Crown at 6 o'clock between "SWISS" and "MADE" matching 2019 DSSD on official website so perhaps 2019 DS doesnt have laser etching any more?

2. When winding the watch in position 1, there are slight ticking when going clockwise but counter-clockwise has less ticking with less resistance. is this correct with 3235?

3. Some youtube shows when you adjust watch with position 3, if you wind clockwise, the minute hand supposed to go clockwise. But mine is opposite.... The movement is 3235. Can anyone with 3235 movement confirm this for me?

Thanks
Congratulations on a beautiful watch.

I purchased my '19 DSSD from my AD this past February, so I have the same exact piece.

1st- I can't tell you because I never looked for the etched crown, nor care to strain my eyes see it.

2nd- Yes, with the crown in the first position, when winding the watch manually I hear a ratcheting noise once it's reached its maximum wind.

3rd- Yes, with the crown in the third position, turning the crown counter clockwise turns the hands clockwise.
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Old 16 December 2019, 02:12 PM   #15
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The laser etching is very hard to see on the DSSD.

Honestly, it took me ages to finally be able to see it on my 126660.
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Old 16 December 2019, 08:42 PM   #16
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The laser etching is very hard to see on the DSSD.

Honestly, it took me ages to finally be able to see it on my 126660.
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Old 16 December 2019, 02:11 PM   #17
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DSSD has LEC. It’s more difficult to be seen due to thickness of the crystal.
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Old 16 December 2019, 04:00 PM   #18
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Wow, after spending another 10 minutes close inspection, I finally found the LEC....

It's so small and faint and right on top of 6pm chrome. It's also in between that 5.5mm crystal rather than all the way inside so focus point and the reflection direction are very important to find it.

I did buy it from AD, but it's not the store marked as Rolex only. This is my first Rolex so I am not sure how those AD that carries other watches are, lol. Newbie without experience so I just want to be sure. :P

I was going to post picture of my DSSD44, but just realized I can't post picture until I have 10 posts.
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Old 16 December 2019, 05:09 PM   #19
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Wow, after spending another 10 minutes close inspection, I finally found the LEC....
Try shining a LED flashlight at the side of the crystal, it should pop right out.
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Old 16 December 2019, 06:33 PM   #20
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Op, all the winding and setting issues your are seeing are consistent with an authentic 3235 movement, but a fake can do that too. If you bought from an official AD, there's noting to worry about, wear it and enjoy.

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Of course the LEC is under the crystal and being your DSSD crystal is extra thick (thinking) it's probably the hardest to spot.

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Actually the LEC is "in" the crystal and its three dimensional, it blows my my mind how Rolex does this but it is the most amazing piece of tech in the watch to me.

Here'a quote from Jocke, one of our more informed members.
Below was a photo he posted. I have seen one under a microscope and it looks fascinating but I can't find the photo in my library at the moment.
But it's created out of tiny stars, let that sick in for a minute....

I thought I know it all and had counted 170 engraving holes in a service-glass, but oh what I deceived me. When I saw the Rolex patent
application from 1997 where one clearly sees that there are stars that are engraved at different angles and height not so the glass will
lose its strength and crack. One sees the clearly that it is also a double row of stars in the crown the outer edge, so now it was suddenly
a lot more engraving holes. So now I have given up counting those without content myself with knowing it is a cruel little option that
proves that Rolex can work with precision, too.

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I thought that I had read that someplace, but the poster above seems to contradict, and says that his Deep Sea does have the etched coronet.
I've owned three Deepsea since they were first released leading up to my 126660 and they have all had the LEC.

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Try shining a LED flashlight at the side of the crystal, it should pop right out.
This is the best technique especially if you shine it an almost the angle of the crystal at 12 o'clock and even a phone flash light works.
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Long time lurker and first time owner just got my first Rolex 2019 Deepsea 44mm ref. 126660.

Shopping at some of the reputable AD in London few weeks ago during my vacation. I had choice of DSSD44 and a YM 37 around Bond St. in 2 different stores. I decided to go with DS44 at the end. I dont mind the weight and I originally wanted a Sub or GMT-II but knowing it's hard to come by with any steel professional, DS44 is very close in terms of look.

Love the watch, but I am being careful with identifying the watch since there are lots of fakes. Watched so many youtube and I have few concerns about my DS44 even when I think there is no way I am being fooled... But I just need to be careful...

1. I can not see laser etching at 6 o'clock. I used 30x magnified glass and looked for a long time but I just can't see it no matter how I turn my DS. DS has 5.5mm magnified domed sapphire. Perhaps there is none with this one? I noticed my watch has a Rolex Crown at 6 o'clock between "SWISS" and "MADE" matching 2019 DSSD on official website so perhaps 2019 DS doesnt have laser etching any more?
Its there, just very hard to see on the DSSD


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2. When winding the watch in position 1, there are slight ticking when going clockwise but counter-clockwise has less ticking with less resistance. is this correct with 3235?
Yes - completely normal, as the mainspring is only wound when turning the crown clockwise

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3. Some youtube shows when you adjust watch with position 3, if you wind clockwise, the minute hand supposed to go clockwise. But mine is opposite.... The movement is 3235. Can anyone with 3235 movement confirm this for me?
Yours is correct. The videos showing clockwise/clockwise are most likely of the previous generation DSSD with the 3135 movement. Yours is correct for the 3235


However, as has been said above, you purchased from an AD. You have no reason to question its authenticity.

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Long time lurker and first time owner just got my first Rolex 2019 Deepsea 44mm ref. 126660.

Shopping at some of the reputable AD in London few weeks ago during my vacation. I had choice of DSSD44 and a YM 37 around Bond St. in 2 different stores. I decided to go with DS44 at the end. I dont mind the weight and I originally wanted a Sub or GMT-II but knowing it's hard to come by with any steel professional, DS44 is very close in terms of look.

Love the watch, but I am being careful with identifying the watch since there are lots of fakes. Watched so many youtube and I have few concerns about my DS44 even when I think there is no way I am being fooled... But I just need to be careful...

1. I can not see laser etching at 6 o'clock. I used 30x magnified glass and looked for a long time but I just can't see it no matter how I turn my DS. DS has 5.5mm magnified domed sapphire. Perhaps there is none with this one? I noticed my watch has a Rolex Crown at 6 o'clock between "SWISS" and "MADE" matching 2019 DSSD on official website so perhaps 2019 DS doesnt have laser etching any more?

2. When winding the watch in position 1, there are slight ticking when going clockwise but counter-clockwise has less ticking with less resistance. is this correct with 3235?

3. Some youtube shows when you adjust watch with position 3, if you wind clockwise, the minute hand supposed to go clockwise. But mine is opposite.... The movement is 3235. Can anyone with 3235 movement confirm this for me?

Rehault serial number matches my card and the box has everythingin it. Everything else feels solid and checked out but the above 3 things are bothering me....

Anyone? Thanks
Question 1 The LEC is very hard to see but it will be there
Question 2 The watches only wind on the forward wind so will hear/feel slight resistance so only wind clockwise.
Question 3 Like the 3035 movement the 3235 hands turn counter clockwise.
And will add you might hear or feel the winding rotor again quite normal as it has a ball-bearing winding rotor.So stop worrying about your watch and just start on wearing and enjoying one on the finest mechanical watches made today.
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Question 1 The LEC is very hard to see but it will be there
Question 2 The watches only wind on the forward wind so will hear/feel slight resistance so only wind clockwise.
Question 3 Like the 3035 movement the 3235 hands turn counter clockwise.
And will add you might hear or feel the winding rotor again quite normal as it has a ball-bearing winding rotor.So stop worrying about your watch and just start on wearing and enjoying one on the finest mechanical watches made today.
This sums it up perfectly

For the future record of the group.
The LEC is not etched on the Crystal.
It's actually inside the saphire and comprised of melted dots so as not to induce too much of a stress raiser.
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I have never looked for a LEC on my DSSD D-blue (JC) because I bought at an AD.

The 3235 does indeed time set opposite of the 3135.

If you bought brand new from an AD, why go down this road? It’s real!


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That’s a great watch, enjoy it
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A light (even phone light) placed horizontally at the 12 o'clock and pointing towards the 6 o'clock makes the LEC pop-out directly.

At least on mine, which is a 126660 d-blue 2018.
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A light (even phone light) placed horizontally at the 12 o'clock and pointing towards the 6 o'clock makes the LEC pop-out directly.

At least on mine, which is a 126660 d-blue 2018.

With this technique, I noticed as long as the light source is very close to the edge of bezel at 12, I can see it without magnified glass now. wow, I can't stop looking at it now.

i love my new watch.
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A light (even phone light) placed horizontally at the 12 o'clock and pointing towards the 6 o'clock makes the LEC pop-out directly.

At least on mine, which is a 126660 d-blue 2018.
This is correct. I used this method and it didn't take me long to find the LEC.
I have a 2018 DSSD Ref. 126660.
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