The OFFICIAL Daytona 116520 “Panna” Cream Dial Owners Club!

[Frakis]

Hi all,
I believe this rare modern reference deserves an Owner’s Club!

I am copying the first two paragraphs from a Catalogue Essay:

“In 2000, Rolex launched the new Daytona models, featuring a fully in-house calibre and with minor aesthetic modification to the dial. Great was the excitement in the collectors community when, a few years later, it was in fact noticed that even these new models can present topicalization. The phenomenon would appear to occur only on some examples made between 2000 and 2002 (P, K and possibly Y serial numbers) with white dial. With time the stark white dials was noticed to become an off-white, cream tonality. Because such a situation is present only for the first two years of the production of the model, it is a fair assumption that either Rolex itself or the raw material supplier realized the defect and rectified the situation.

Considering the appeal and collectability that tropical dials - both from vintage times and from the nineties as well - have among Rolex collector, it is a very educated guess that Cream Dial 116520 will become one of the most sought-after variations of the modern Rolex production, and certainly destined to be more and more actively hunted down.”

I am proud to be an owner of a white dial P-serial Daytona 116520.

According to this article, the dial changes in some P, K, and Y serials. Let's compose our own database.

I'm curious to know:
- The letter and as much of the serial number you feel comfortable sharing.
- Color of dial (white, off white, “panna” cream, or a tint of green.

So to all owner's of the Daytona 116520 “panna” cream dial, past and present, post your pictures!

Here is my P-serial, safe queen, NOS with stickers, and comes as a complete set including the original sales receipt. I realize this doesn’t have much of a cream dial being stored in a safe, and not being exposed to the elements. Who knows, maybe once it is exposed it will change color.

Cheers!



Hoping one day it turns to a "panna" cream dial like this one pulled off an ad on Chrono24:

[Anton911]

Your 116520 doesn’t appear to have changed colour to the extent of other now Panna dials which is also to become a rarity for the watches which are still a solid white as there will be very reduced numbers of the all white versions in existence.
It is indeed a chemical reaction within the paint Rolex used on the dial.Exposure to sunlight,the watch going from a cold safe to a hot environment and different moisture conditions all play a part in the reaction causing the discolouration of the original dial.
It is fascinating all the different colour variations that exist and it is also uncertain whether this reaction of the paint is still ongoing depending on the changing environmental conditions that the watch is kept or worn in or whether the reaction has taken place early on in the watches life and is now stable?
Whichever example you have of this early series they are becoming extremely collectible.

[Anton911]

I note op’s watch still has the stickers in place!
I have a 2000 P serial also,the dial has an off white colour especially if i put the 116520 against my 116500, you can clearly see the difference.
It’s a watch that has sentimental value,my favourite in my collection and would never part with.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Anton911

Your 116520 doesn’t appear to have changed colour to the extent of other now Panna dials which is also to become a rarity for the watches which are still a solid white as there will be very reduced numbers of the all white versions in existence.
It is indeed a chemical reaction within the paint Rolex used on the dial.Exposure to sunlight,the watch going from a cold safe to a hot environment and different moisture conditions all play a part in the reaction causing the discolouration of the original dial.
It is fascinating all the different colour variations that exist and it is also uncertain whether this reaction of the paint is still ongoing depending on the changing environmental conditions that the watch is kept or worn in or whether the reaction has taken place early on in the watches life and is now stable?
Whichever example you have of this early series they are becoming extremely collectible.

Its funny how the internet generated hype has made these to be collectable for what in the real world is technically a faulty paint pigment.And I am sure once prices rise there will be many artificially made so called panna dial around.

[kans86]

My P serial from 2000. Light cream.


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[fania123]

How the hell do you keep a beautiful watch like that tucked away in a safe, it’s a shame really. It’s like dating a supermodel and making her wear a snowsuit and trash bag over her face, what’s the point?

[Anton911]

Personally I wear mine very sparingly on special occasions in rotation with other watches.Great to wear when you have not worn it for a long time,feels like a new watch!

[djgallo]

Originally Posted by padi56

Its quite strange today that in the real world that was mostly a defect on certain Rolex dials like the Daytona and blue dial subs.Now thanks to the internet declaring these types of dials as being rare and must have collectable prices have risen to those willing to pay.Now the 1989/1990 16613 blue dial subs those dials did change to a more purple colour.But today dont get as much internet hype as say the dial faults on the Daytona.

I received an an offer to buy one of the blue dialed subs (turned purple). I held the watch in my hand and the color was very vivid and unique for sure. It was a little over the top for me so I declined. I was so used to seeing the blue dial that it was just too strange for my likes. It may become very collectable down the road....then I will be kicking myself for not getting it.

[904VT]

You still own an 116520 just as “Patrizzi” dial changes are still 16520s, so not sure that it is a different owner’s club. Can it be a Panna dial technically if it is still white? I don’t think any 116520s are going to be super-collectible but my perspective if any will be it’s more likely to be the late era laser-etched rehaut 116520s that have pretty much the same features as the 116500s. Regardless it’s a great watch so just enjoy it

[Sunstreaker]

Originally Posted by 904VT

You still own an 116520 just as “Patrizzi” dial changes are still 16520s, so not sure that it is a different owner’s club. Can it be a Panna dial technically if it is still white? I don’t think any 116520s are going to be super-collectible but my perspective if any will be it’s more likely to be the late era laser-etched rehaut 116520s that have pretty much the same features as the 116500s. Regardless it’s a great watch so just enjoy it

What is considered "late era" for the 116520 ?

[Solo118]

Originally Posted by Sunstreaker

What is considered "late era" for the 116520 ?

He is saying the Daytonas that have updated clasp, chromalight and inner rehaut engraving. Kind of the "facelift" 116520 as the original that came out in the early 2000s had a smaller clasp without any rehaut engraving. These models came in around 2008/9 give or take? I believe V serial and beyond as M serial had older clasp but had rehaut engraving.

End of the day I do not think it matters which 116520 you have unless it's an early Panna which commands more money. The watch is now discontinued and they should all be pretty sought after.

[Sunstreaker]

Originally Posted by Solo118

He is saying the Daytonas that have updated clasp, chromalight and inner rehaut engraving. Kind of the "facelift" 116520 as the original that came out in the early 2000s had a smaller clasp without any rehaut engraving. These models came in around 2008/9 give or take? I believe V serial and beyond as M serial had older clasp but had rehaut engraving.

End of the day I do not think it matters which 116520 you have unless it's an early Panna which commands more money. The watch is now discontinued and they should all be pretty sought after.

Thanks Solo. Mine has the updated clasp ("long clasp"), random serial, inner rehaut but has the green lum.

BTW love your racing dial in your avatar!

[Onequik135i]

Originally Posted by Sunstreaker

Thanks Solo. Mine has the updated clasp ("long clasp"), random serial, inner rehaut but has the green lum.

BTW love your racing dial in your avatar!

Yours sounds just like mine, is yours a white no APH dial too ? Seems most white dial with longer clasps have blue lume markers along with APH logo.

[stratguy]

I would be upset if my Daytona dial changed to the color.

[nikesupremedunk]

Wow that’s a super rare watch especially being NOS! Honestly, I think the dials turning yellow doesn’t look good at all. Reminds me of old newspapers or clear sole sneakers turning piss yellow over time. (Jordan 11’s?) But since internet says it’s rare it becomes something special. I’d just keep the watch tucked away and hope it doesn’t turn yellow, but it will still be worth a lot being that it’s still a P serial.

[Rcmillard]

Hunted for a Daytona for years and found this 2000 P series

[Rcmillard]

Anyone have concerns of Rolex swapping dial during service? I plan to send mine off to start documenting service.

[bokbok]

Mine el creamo dial dates to 2004 thin hands not seen them past 2004. You cannot always tell unless you take picture in low light next to later version.


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[365DAS]

I’ve just become the proud owner of a Panna/Cream Daytona! Mine is a UK supplied watch and is a K serial


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[Frakis]

Originally Posted by 365DAS

I’ve just become the proud owner of a Panna/Cream Daytona! Mine is a UK supplied watch and is a K serial


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CONGRATS! Wear that beauty in good health. These panna/cream dials are definitely unique!

[Mik8yu]

Can we get some more photos and feedback from owners? Bumping this up


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[iTreelex]

No thank you. I like my daytona white and worn. Cool pics though

[kans86]

Love it. My favorite 116520 variant.




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[1665fan]

Originally Posted by kans86

Love it. My favorite 116520 variant.




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Very nice!

[Tadphya]

I Have one u can see at Instagram phyathai68.

[42itus]

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[Onequik135i]

Beautiful pics to all you lucky owners out there, one of my all time SS favs next to the zenith models.

[Ondeulf]

Here is mine, f6xxxxx serial with fat hands. 2004:)

[Bil3102]

Mine is a Y series 2003 pics on my ig bil3102

[DiamondBob]

Can Panna Dials be from low "D" numbers? I understand that some of the first ones after the Y series still had the same paint issue.