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PorscheNRolex · 24 January 2020, 05:02 AM

A lot of hype on the new Omega 321. It’s pretty clear they are gunning for Daytona.

Y’all’s thoughts?? All opinions welcome!

Pantheon · 24 January 2020, 05:05 AM

It's a very overpriced omega

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LigerBelair · 24 January 2020, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pantheon

It's a very overpriced omega

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Well said. There's absolutely no chance I would buy the Omega over the Rolex.

Wimbledon · 24 January 2020, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantheon

It's a very overpriced omega

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Agree. The 321 is way overpriced for what it is...no chance that I would pay over $5K for that watch. No way. No how.

Zakalwe · 24 January 2020, 05:10 AM

The Speedy looks better to my eyes and I love the bracelet. It also has a more interesting movement and certainly a nicer-looking one, not that you could see the heart of the Rolex even if it didn’t look industrial. All things being equal I would choose it over an SS Daytona.

All things are not equal though. To the untrained eye, the watch basically looks the same as one you can get for a third of the price and it’s not like you have the compensation of it being in PM (unless you spend absurd money on the platinum version). At MSRP it’d be extremely difficult to justify buying the Omega over the Rolex. Then again, the point is moot since hardly any bugger can get the Cosmograph at MSRP.

I have never bought a used watch, but this Speedy might really interest me if its value does what most non-limited Speedys eventually do.

Nodzex · 23 December 2022, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakalwe

The Speedy looks better to my eyes and I love the bracelet. It also has a more interesting movement and certainly a nicer-looking one, not that you could see the heart of the Rolex even if it didn’t look industrial. All things being equal I would choose it over an SS Daytona.

All things are not equal though. To the untrained eye, the watch basically looks the same as one you can get for a third of the price and it’s not like you have the compensation of it being in PM (unless you spend absurd money on the platinum version). At MSRP it’d be extremely difficult to justify buying the Omega over the Rolex. Then again, the point is moot since hardly any bugger can get the Cosmograph at MSRP.

I have never bought a used watch, but this Speedy might really interest me if its value does what most non-limited Speedys eventually do.

I am on this train as well!

pepsiretail · 24 January 2020, 05:12 AM

Why is it hype?

It’s a new watch that has aspects a lot of people have wanted for a long time.

Hype is all the over retail bs that has infested the industry. Reports and discussions are not necessarily hype.

ArtNouveau · 24 January 2020, 05:13 AM

It's a beauty but too expensive, I'll stick with my garden variety Hesalite Moonwatch.

SS Oyster · 24 January 2020, 05:14 AM

Those 321 speedys will be very hard to get and most will live a dark life in a safe.

The Daytona more user friendly as a daily with a damn good automatic movement.

I’d choose Daytona.

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JayHantz · 24 January 2020, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SS Oyster

Those 321 speedys will be very hard to get and most will live a dark life in a safe.

The Daytona more user friendly as a daily with a damn good automatic movement.

I’d choose Daytona.

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np2016 · 24 January 2020, 05:21 AM

Pure price insanity for an omega at $14,100! No thanks will just wear my 116500ln

Maxy · 24 January 2020, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by np2016

Pure price insanity for an omega at $14,100! No thanks will just wear my 116500ln

Some folks don't get the world outside Rolex. Nothing against you.. but Omega released Snoopy Moonwatch for $7K USD and now it sells for $24K USD as used. So, they know the market for it.

MTdweller · 24 January 2020, 05:23 AM

The new Speedy looks great but I personally prefer the aesthetics and fit of the Daytona (if we’re talking MSRP). Not sure what grey market prices will be on the 321 but at two-thirds the price of a SS Daytona, it certainly becomes a more attractive option.

T.Mas · 24 January 2020, 05:24 AM

I greatly prefer the OMEGA. Design, tech, everything. Not even close. But I’m not buying one at that price. Again, not even close.

m j b · 24 January 2020, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by T.Mas

I greatly prefer the OMEGA. Design, tech, everything. Not even close. But I’m not buying one at that price. Again, not even close.

This is pretty-much me. I like the new Speedy, but I'm not such a nerd that I'm going to pay twice what (most of) the other models are selling for, just for an updated old reissued movement.

Heck, I have two Speedmasters (wearing one now) and they have different movements, neither of which I could tell you the number of, unless I take the watch off of my wrist and look at the back of it.

Now, ask me about the engine model designation, displacement, horsepower and other trivia about my car and I'll bore you for an hour.

subtona · 24 January 2020, 05:26 AM

Daytona great case and water resistance.

Omega everything else.

These are very fair competitors and should be priced the same. Imho

ink3027 · 24 January 2020, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Daytona great case and water resistance.

Omega everything else.

These are very fair competitors and should be priced the same. Imho

Purely based on aesthetics here, I prefer the Speedmaster to the Daytona. Seeing this side-by-side comparison really drives home the point that the Daytona dial has too many shiny, glossy surfaces -- it all starts to run together. The Speedmaster is much more legible and well laid out, IMO.

superstarmar · 22 February 2020, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Daytona great case and water resistance.

Omega everything else.

These are very fair competitors and should be priced the same. Imho

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Originally Posted by ink3027

Purely based on aesthetics here, I prefer the Speedmaster to the Daytona. Seeing this side-by-side comparison really drives home the point that the Daytona dial has too many shiny, glossy surfaces -- it all starts to run together. The Speedmaster is much more legible and well laid out, IMO.

dial of speedy in the case, bezel and bracelet of daytona for me.
Dream on....

brandrea · 24 January 2020, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Daytona great case and water resistance.

Omega everything else.

These are very fair competitors and should be priced the same. Imho

I have no horse in this race but I’ll say it again ... I can read one and the other, not so much...

Congratulations in advance on the 321 Gus, I hope you land it sooner than later.

subtona · 24 January 2020, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

I have no horse in this race but I’ll say it again ... I can read one and the other, not so much...

Congratulations in advance on the 321 Gus, I hope you land it sooner than later.

Thanks.

I mentioned a phone call to pick it up in February would be appreciated as it’s my birthday and all...”she laughed and said she would happily call me to wish me a happy birthday”

Projected wait sounds To be about the end of the year?

brandrea · 24 January 2020, 07:50 AM

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Thanks.

I mentioned a phone call to pick it up in February would be appreciated as it’s my birthday and all...”she laughed and said she would happily call me to wish me a happy birthday”

Projected wait sounds To be about the end of the year?

Well you can always hope my friend. Hope its sooner that later

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Highlatitude · 24 January 2020, 05:32 AM

As a modern watch with a modern movement, the Daytona is technically superior.

Both are fuelled by hype and perceived fashion and exclusivity and have a ludicrous price. Neither interest me at all. The chronograph function is just not very useful or practical.

ec00421 · 24 January 2020, 05:35 AM

Daytona, all day every day every second every penny.

kieselguhr · 24 January 2020, 05:39 AM

I love the 321 Speedmaster. But for that price, I’ll add $1000 and get a TT Daytona which fits my aesthetic taste better and I can take it down diving with me and not have to leave it on the boat.

AshCashEmAll · 24 January 2020, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kieselguhr

I love the 321 Speedmaster. But for that price, I’ll add $1000 and get a TT Daytona which fits my aesthetic taste better and I can take it down diving with me and not have to leave it on the boat.

But you can take the omega to the moon.

Gdoc26 · 24 January 2020, 05:45 AM

Thats a freaking lot of money for a manual wind, plastic crystal, stainless steel unlimited production omega. Omega's have a proven history of heavy discounts on the secondary markets and poor retention of value over time. Compare that to a Daytona that will be hard to acquire but will increase in value over time. I'm not an Omega hater, I have 3 that I love but I also paid substantially less than retail on all of them, one of them at 50% of new price and it was nib. My Daytona I paid a hefty grey market premium but even at that a year later it has appreciated. I'm not into the moon watch hype, I bet the astronauts would have preferred an automatic sapphire crystal for everyday wear. Its just not safe to have thousand of shards of sapphire floating around in a space capsule should they accidentally break the crystal. Save your money and get a 44.25 moonwatch with sapphire crystal, display case back and automatic winding.

42itus · 24 January 2020, 05:51 AM

321 vs. Daytona at Retail... Daytona all Day.

321 vs Daytona at Market Price... 321 and it's not even close.

I love the 321 and everything about it but I can't pay that price. I'm not that hardcore into it. I know nothing about the R&D and production costs, but I wish Omega was able to price this right around $10K. In my opinion at that price point people would be lining up to give Omega their money...

SS Oyster · 24 January 2020, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 42itus

321 vs. Daytona at Retail... Daytona all Day.

321 vs Daytona at Market Price... 321 and it's not even close.

...

But it will be nearly impossible to get the 321 at retail. I’d expect double on secondary market.

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subtona · 24 January 2020, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SS Oyster

But it will be nearly impossible to get the 321 at retail. I’d expect double on secondary market.

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“Double” seems ambitious?

I placed an order and it is confirmed with an eta of up to 1 year...

Also told locally by boutique order list has been since closed?

starflyerotr · 20 February 2020, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

“Double” seems ambitious?

I placed an order and it is confirmed with an eta of up to 1 year...

Also told locally by boutique order list has been since closed?

The local AD estimated sometime in the summer. The AD here says they sell more than the local OBoutique - if you can believe that. they have received more 50th anniversary and platinum 321 than the OBoutique. Hopefully the ADs estimate delivery are on point...

24 January 2020, 05:02 AM	#1
PorscheNRolex 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 151	New Release OMEGA STEEL 321 vs DAYTONA STEEL A lot of hype on the new Omega 321. It’s pretty clear they are gunning for Daytona. Y’all’s thoughts?? All opinions welcome!

24 January 2020, 05:10 AM	#5
Zakalwe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Sal Location: London Posts: 2,496	The Speedy looks better to my eyes and I love the bracelet. It also has a more interesting movement and certainly a nicer-looking one, not that you could see the heart of the Rolex even if it didn’t look industrial. All things being equal I would choose it over an SS Daytona. All things are not equal though. To the untrained eye, the watch basically looks the same as one you can get for a third of the price and it’s not like you have the compensation of it being in PM (unless you spend absurd money on the platinum version). At MSRP it’d be extremely difficult to justify buying the Omega over the Rolex. Then again, the point is moot since hardly any bugger can get the Cosmograph at MSRP. I have never bought a used watch, but this Speedy might really interest me if its value does what most non-limited Speedys eventually do. __________________ “Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

24 January 2020, 05:39 AM	#24
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,615	New Release OMEGA STEEL 321 vs DAYTONA STEEL I love the 321 Speedmaster. But for that price, I’ll add $1000 and get a TT Daytona which fits my aesthetic taste better and I can take it down diving with me and not have to leave it on the boat.

24 January 2020, 05:05 AM	#2
Pantheon Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Ritchie Location: NYC & LI Watch: VC and AP Posts: 580	It's a very overpriced omega Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk

24 January 2020, 05:12 AM	#7
pepsiretail Banned Join Date: May 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 2,052	Why is it hype? It’s a new watch that has aspects a lot of people have wanted for a long time. Hype is all the over retail bs that has infested the industry. Reports and discussions are not necessarily hype.

24 January 2020, 05:13 AM	#8
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 5,342	It's a beauty but too expensive, I'll stick with my garden variety Hesalite Moonwatch.

24 January 2020, 05:14 AM	#9
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,199	Those 321 speedys will be very hard to get and most will live a dark life in a safe. The Daytona more user friendly as a daily with a damn good automatic movement. I’d choose Daytona. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 January 2020, 05:21 AM	#11
np2016 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex, Patek, AP, Posts: 522	Pure price insanity for an omega at $14,100! No thanks will just wear my 116500ln

24 January 2020, 05:23 AM	#13
MTdweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Ty Location: West Coast Watch: the time fly! Posts: 1,493	The new Speedy looks great but I personally prefer the aesthetics and fit of the Daytona (if we’re talking MSRP). Not sure what grey market prices will be on the 321 but at two-thirds the price of a SS Daytona, it certainly becomes a more attractive option.

24 January 2020, 05:24 AM	#14
T.Mas "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Switzerland Posts: 316	I greatly prefer the OMEGA. Design, tech, everything. Not even close. But I’m not buying one at that price. Again, not even close.

24 January 2020, 05:32 AM	#22
Highlatitude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Nomadic Posts: 221	As a modern watch with a modern movement, the Daytona is technically superior. Both are fuelled by hype and perceived fashion and exclusivity and have a ludicrous price. Neither interest me at all. The chronograph function is just not very useful or practical.

24 January 2020, 05:35 AM	#23
ec00421 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NY Posts: 513	Daytona, all day every day every second every penny.

24 January 2020, 05:45 AM	#26
Gdoc26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Colorado Posts: 100	Thats a freaking lot of money for a manual wind, plastic crystal, stainless steel unlimited production omega. Omega's have a proven history of heavy discounts on the secondary markets and poor retention of value over time. Compare that to a Daytona that will be hard to acquire but will increase in value over time. I'm not an Omega hater, I have 3 that I love but I also paid substantially less than retail on all of them, one of them at 50% of new price and it was nib. My Daytona I paid a hefty grey market premium but even at that a year later it has appreciated. I'm not into the moon watch hype, I bet the astronauts would have preferred an automatic sapphire crystal for everyday wear. Its just not safe to have thousand of shards of sapphire floating around in a space capsule should they accidentally break the crystal. Save your money and get a 44.25 moonwatch with sapphire crystal, display case back and automatic winding.

24 January 2020, 05:51 AM	#27
42itus "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Tom Location: Honolulu Watch: 116519LN Posts: 3,828	321 vs. Daytona at Retail... Daytona all Day. 321 vs Daytona at Market Price... 321 and it's not even close. I love the 321 and everything about it but I can't pay that price. I'm not that hardcore into it. I know nothing about the R&D and production costs, but I wish Omega was able to price this right around $10K. In my opinion at that price point people would be lining up to give Omega their money...

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