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Arcticsub · 8 February 2020, 07:00 AM

One can get the following new watches: (also for market prices)

JLC Reverso classic small seconds
Rolex Submariner 114060
Omega Speedmaster 1861 hesalite
And to round it all off a Zenith El Primero.

This would be a dream collection for any wis. You would have a watch for any occasion. In my opinion, nobody in their right mind would look at this collection and say "I would trade this all for a Daytona". I guess desire makes people irrational.

djgallo · 8 February 2020, 07:15 AM

The only watch in your list that makes sense to own is the Rolex sub. IMO

All of the (others) are easy to get....for a reason....and they lose value over time...try to sell and recoup your money..hardly.

The Daytona is on a different level. Some understand and some don’t.....the ones that don’t... should wear something else...and stop bad rapping others that enjoy their Daytona.

Wahlberg · 8 February 2020, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by djgallo

and they lose value over time...try to sell and recoup your money..hardly.

And this is what ruined this hobby the last few years. Value and retention.

You buy a luxury item because you can and enjoy something. I understand the value proposition behind it, but that should be one of the last on the list.

Buy because you love it, else don't. Talking about value and all that takes the joy out of it.

djgallo · 8 February 2020, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wahlberg

And this is what ruined this hobby the last few years. Value and retention.

You buy a luxury item because you can and enjoy something. I understand the value proposition behind it, but that should be one of the last on the list.

Buy because you love it, else don't. Talking about value and all that takes the joy out of it.

You let what others do ruin the hobby for you...

Nothing wrong with people looking at resale value as part of their decision to make a luxury purchase, and that includes a watch purchase. You don’t like it...then don’t do it. I look at all of my expensive purchases with resale as a part of my equation. ie. Cars, homes etc.

Jona · 8 February 2020, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by djgallo

You let what others do ruin the hobby for you...

Nothing wrong with people looking at resale value as part of their decision to make a luxury purchase, and that includes a watch purchase. You don’t like it...then don’t do it. I look at all of my expensive purchases with resale as a part of my equation. ie. Cars, homes etc.

I am truly sorry to hear this, as I suspect "resale value" is the main, if not only, part of your equation.

djgallo · 8 February 2020, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jona

I am truly sorry to hear this, as I suspect "resale value" is the main, if not only, part of your equation.

Don’t worry...I won’t twist your arm to buy smart....

Wahlberg · 8 February 2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by djgallo

You let what others do ruin the hobby for you...

Nothing wrong with people looking at resale value as part of their decision to make a luxury purchase, and that includes a watch purchase. You don’t like it...then don’t do it. I look at all of my expensive purchases with resale as a part of my equation. ie. Cars, homes etc.

To each his own.

I buy smart so I have never over spent but the end goal is not making money on this or actually ever selling any of my watches. And if the market crashes and the value of my watches go to 0, I won't care in the end. I'll buy a few more.

absoluteczech · 8 February 2020, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wahlberg

And this is what ruined this hobby the last few years. Value and retention.

You buy a luxury item because you can and enjoy something. I understand the value proposition behind it, but that should be one of the last on the list.

Buy because you love it, else don't. Talking about value and all that takes the joy out of it.

amen

Anton911 · 8 February 2020, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by djgallo

The only watch in your list that makes sense to own is the Rolex sub. IMO

All of the (others) are easy to get....for a reason....and they lose value over time...try to sell and recoup your money..hardly.

The Daytona is on a different level. Some understand and some don’t.....the ones that don’t... should wear something else...and stop bad rapping others that enjoy their Daytona.

Daytona’s are some of the most sought after watches especially the 116500.
As rightly said they are on another level on all respects.
It’s human nature if people cannot get something ie Daytona ,they will immediately condemn then suddenly they acquire and it’s the best thing ever..
A bad case of jealousy and sour grapes I’m afraid.
What makes me laugh are the people who are belly aching that they don’t even want or like the Daytona.If that’s the case,shut up and buy a Casio and do us all a favour.

tacotaco · 8 February 2020, 02:09 PM

There is only one Daytona tho
Love it or hate it

LooseCann0n · 8 February 2020, 07:28 AM

No thanks...

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ap1 · 13 February 2020, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LooseCann0n

No thanks...

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Lol / agree

garyk · 13 February 2020, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LooseCann0n

No thanks...

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Yeah baby!!!

brian628 · 14 February 2020, 09:44 AM

To the OP -

If you really wanna stir up the pot, dump a beautiful Platinum Daytona AND sweet Patek 5960 for one of these like I did.

Let the whining and insults and admonishment begin!

Awesome move on my part!
lol

pickettt · 14 February 2020, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brian628

To the OP -

If you really wanna stir up the pot, dump a beautiful Platinum Daytona AND sweet Patek 5960 for one of these like I did.

Let the whining and insults and admonishment begin!

Awesome move on my part!
lol

If that’s your thing, good on you

2nastie · 8 February 2020, 07:33 AM

Sure? But it isn't a Daytona now is it?

If a person wants a Daytona, then the goal is a Daytona.

joli160 · 8 February 2020, 07:46 AM

It's not about quantity, you can also buy 200 Seiko 5's which deserves it's own merits.

Keep the four, I'd pick the Daytona.

037 · 8 February 2020, 08:14 AM

This is exactly why I bought four bicycles instead of a car.

In hindsight I could have had eight unicycles but didn't want to take it too far.

Arcticsub · 8 February 2020, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 037

This is exactly why I bought four bicycles instead of a car.

In hindsight I could have had eight unicycles but didn't want to take it too far.

Yeah because comparing luxury watches is the same as comparing bicycles. Not really but thanks anyway.

Colin W · 8 February 2020, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 037

This is exactly why I bought four bicycles instead of a car.

In hindsight I could have had eight unicycles but didn't want to take it too far.

LOL

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Singslinger · 8 February 2020, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 037

This is exactly why I bought four bicycles instead of a car.

In hindsight I could have had eight unicycles but didn't want to take it too far.

IndianRider · 8 February 2020, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Singslinger

Eight unicycles... how about SIXTEEN pogo sticks

Calatrava r · 8 February 2020, 08:22 AM

You should get those watches, if you like them and forget about the Daytona. Why is it necessary to spend what a Daytona costs. Why not a lot more or a lot less?

Arcticsub · 8 February 2020, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Calatrava r

You should get those watches, if you like them and forget about the Daytona. Why is it necessary to spend what a Daytona costs. Why not a lot more or a lot less?

This is kind of the point I'm trying to make. Spending a lot of money on a Daytona because it's hard to get. BTW, the Daytona is a watch I would never buy.

037 · 8 February 2020, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Arcticsub

BTW, the Daytona is a watch I would never buy.

Then why do you care what other people buy?

Not everyone likes the same watches or wants four of something rather than one of something.

aparker973 · 8 February 2020, 08:31 AM

I'd take a Reverso small seconds in red heads-up vs. a Daytona. Yes, no bullshit.

I'm done buying shit because I think it is more likely to hold its value. I end up not wearing them-- not because I'm trying to preserve value, but because I just don't really like them enough.

I was in 10 meetings this week-- Subs, Omegas, and Daytonas galore. Yawn.

Blue Reverso popped from under the cuff of someone and I can't shake how drawn I was to it. Completely sick. I never talk about watches at work, with clients, counterparties, etc... but I almost felt compelled to say "nice".

RJRJRJ · 8 February 2020, 08:32 AM

If you want those watches then I guess it makes sense. But if you want a Daytona, get a Daytona. I can appreciate, and like, all of the watches on that list, I don't actually want to buy one.

You can also say that instead of a 5711, you can get a DaytonaC in both colors, plus those four watches you listed.

illiguy · 8 February 2020, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

If you want those watches then I guess it makes sense. But if you want a Daytona, get a Daytona. I can appreciate, and like, all of the watches on that list, I don't actually want to buy one.

You can also say that instead of a 5711, you can get a DaytonaC in both colors, plus those four watches you listed.

Well said.

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RyanJ · 8 February 2020, 08:38 AM

Why does it shock people that many, if not most, buy Rolex because it generally retains value? This is one of the biggest reasons it is so popular. Maybe not why for people on this forum but out in the real world it is.

absoluteczech · 8 February 2020, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanJ

Why does it shock people that many, if not most, buy Rolex because it generally retains value? This is one of the biggest reasons it is so popular. Maybe not why for people on this forum but out in the real world it is.

Because that wasn't always the case. Not even 10 years ago you could buy them at "greys" for less than MSRP. And used definitely below retail

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=256840

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=258800

8 February 2020, 07:00 AM	#1
Arcticsub "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Local group Posts: 226	For the market price of a new ceramic Daytona One can get the following new watches: (also for market prices) JLC Reverso classic small seconds Rolex Submariner 114060 Omega Speedmaster 1861 hesalite And to round it all off a Zenith El Primero. This would be a dream collection for any wis. You would have a watch for any occasion. In my opinion, nobody in their right mind would look at this collection and say "I would trade this all for a Daytona". I guess desire makes people irrational.

8 February 2020, 07:46 AM	#17
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,738	It's not about quantity, you can also buy 200 Seiko 5's which deserves it's own merits. Keep the four, I'd pick the Daytona. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

8 February 2020, 07:15 AM	#2
djgallo Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Eastwest Posts: 1,322	The only watch in your list that makes sense to own is the Rolex sub. IMO All of the (others) are easy to get....for a reason....and they lose value over time...try to sell and recoup your money..hardly. The Daytona is on a different level. Some understand and some don’t.....the ones that don’t... should wear something else...and stop bad rapping others that enjoy their Daytona.

8 February 2020, 02:09 PM	#10
tacotaco "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: KCMO Watch: 116500 Black, DD40 Posts: 430	There is only one Daytona tho Love it or hate it

8 February 2020, 07:28 AM	#11
LooseCann0n "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London, UK Watch: Daytona,Pepsi,SD4K Posts: 569	No thanks... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 February 2020, 07:33 AM	#16
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	Sure? But it isn't a Daytona now is it? If a person wants a Daytona, then the goal is a Daytona.

8 February 2020, 08:14 AM	#18
037 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 6,173	This is exactly why I bought four bicycles instead of a car. In hindsight I could have had eight unicycles but didn't want to take it too far.

8 February 2020, 08:22 AM	#23
Calatrava r 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 11,355	You should get those watches, if you like them and forget about the Daytona. Why is it necessary to spend what a Daytona costs. Why not a lot more or a lot less?

8 February 2020, 08:31 AM	#26
aparker973 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 149	I'd take a Reverso small seconds in red heads-up vs. a Daytona. Yes, no bullshit. I'm done buying shit because I think it is more likely to hold its value. I end up not wearing them-- not because I'm trying to preserve value, but because I just don't really like them enough. I was in 10 meetings this week-- Subs, Omegas, and Daytonas galore. Yawn. Blue Reverso popped from under the cuff of someone and I can't shake how drawn I was to it. Completely sick. I never talk about watches at work, with clients, counterparties, etc... but I almost felt compelled to say "nice".

8 February 2020, 08:32 AM	#27
RJRJRJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,495	If you want those watches then I guess it makes sense. But if you want a Daytona, get a Daytona. I can appreciate, and like, all of the watches on that list, I don't actually want to buy one. You can also say that instead of a 5711, you can get a DaytonaC in both colors, plus those four watches you listed.

8 February 2020, 08:38 AM	#29
RyanJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,448	Why does it shock people that many, if not most, buy Rolex because it generally retains value? This is one of the biggest reasons it is so popular. Maybe not why for people on this forum but out in the real world it is.

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