rolex explorer 2 16570 lug holes or no holes?

[foxlovefish]

Hi all,

rolex explorer 2 16570 lug holes or no holes? which one you prefer?

[watchmavan]

Lug holes and a 3185.


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[AF_Rob]

I like solid lugs because it's newer, that's it. For pure function, holes are better.

[ltmgeller]

If you plan on swapping straps often, go for the holes.

[kneedeep]

Holes and SELs

[-dustin]

Originally Posted by kneedeep

holes and sels

+ 1

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by kneedeep

Holes and SELs

+1

[subtona]

Lugholes...

why would you not want the easy And more secure option to swap straps?

A strap is a great way to minimize the presence on the wrist when traveling.

[crowatch]

Originally Posted by subtona

Lugholes...

why would you not want the easy And more secure option to swap straps?

A strap is a great way to minimize the presence on the wrist when traveling.

Why would you put a $15 nylon strap

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by crowatch

Why would you put a $15 nylon strap

Because you can. The explorer II is a strap monster.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by crowatch

Why would you put a $15 nylon strap

Choices.
Sometimes it’s nice to mix it up.

I can sell you a $500 nato if that will make it ok?

They are colorful and durable.

James Bond wore one.

Remember Rolex made milsubs that were exclusively meant to be worn on natos.

You can also use a quality water resistant leather strap For a different look.

to repeat , when traveling, I choose to wear my Rolex as I have for nearly 30 years, however times have changed and sometimes it is useful to fly under the radar with a $15 strap.

Another reason.
It is in my opinion a superior design that I appreciated from my very first watch. Why should anyone have to poke at the back of their watch with a non standard micro forked tool the is a pia to buy and use when a case with holes allow you to do the job with a variety of readily available pin type tools.

Also, The spring bar used with lugholes is thicker and and seats further into the lugs.

And still another reason
When bringing your Rolex in for service, if your choice is to not have the watch polished, it is even money if or not rscny ignores your request. By easily removing the bracelet and leaving it home before service, it becomes a small measure to give the tech pause before grinding away at your watch... maybe the tech will take a moment to read the work order and notice the big letters that say DO NOT POLISH. maybe?

It’s a tool watch.

[Boaters]

Originally Posted by subtona

Choices.
Sometimes it’s nice to mix it up.

I can sell you a $500 nato if that will make it ok?

They are colorful and durable.

James Bond wore one.

Remember Rolex made milsubs that were exclusively meant to be worn on natos.

You can also use a quality water resistant leather strap For a different look.

to repeat , when traveling, I choose to wear my Rolex as I have for nearly 30 years, however times have changed and sometimes it is useful to fly under the radar with a $15 strap.

Another reason.
It is in my opinion a superior design that I appreciated from my very first watch. Why should anyone have to poke at the back of their watch with a non standard micro forked tool the is a pia to buy and use when a case with holes allow you to do the job with a variety of readily available pin type tools.

Also, The spring bar used with lugholes is thicker and and seats further into the lugs.

And still another reason
When bringing your Rolex in for service, if your choice is to not have the watch polished, it is even money if or not rscny ignores your request. By easily removing the bracelet and leaving it home before service, it becomes a small measure to give the tech pause before grinding away at your watch... maybe the tech will take a moment to read the work order and notice the big letters that say DO NOT POLISH. maybe?

It’s a tool watch.

Perfect

[KeithP]

Originally Posted by subtona

Choices.
Sometimes it’s nice to mix it up.

I can sell you a $500 nato if that will make it ok?

They are colorful and durable.

James Bond wore one.

Remember Rolex made milsubs that were exclusively meant to be worn on natos.

You can also use a quality water resistant leather strap For a different look.

to repeat , when traveling, I choose to wear my Rolex as I have for nearly 30 years, however times have changed and sometimes it is useful to fly under the radar with a $15 strap.

Another reason.
It is in my opinion a superior design that I appreciated from my very first watch. Why should anyone have to poke at the back of their watch with a non standard micro forked tool the is a pia to buy and use when a case with holes allow you to do the job with a variety of readily available pin type tools.

Also, The spring bar used with lugholes is thicker and and seats further into the lugs.

And still another reason
When bringing your Rolex in for service, if your choice is to not have the watch polished, it is even money if or not rscny ignores your request. By easily removing the bracelet and leaving it home before service, it becomes a small measure to give the tech pause before grinding away at your watch... maybe the tech will take a moment to read the work order and notice the big letters that say DO NOT POLISH. maybe?

It’s a tool watch.

Bless you Sir.

[watchmavan]

Originally Posted by crowatch

Why would you put a $15 nylon strap

Because it looks good and feels good.


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[BillA]

I have a 16570 with no hole lugs, and I must admit changing the bracelet to the strap and returning it to the bracelet is tough. It is easier to poke at the holes to remove the spring bars.

[bobabreath]

Holes are very functional.

[jbglx]

Originally Posted by bobabreath

Holes are very functional.

[foxlovefish]

I personally prefer hole also, more sexy.

[javier]

Originally Posted by foxlovefish

I personally prefer hole also, more sexy.

[Hutrmila]

No holes and no strap change ... isn’t the bracelet another iconic part of the watch ? Be it even jubilee on gmt ? Though oyster is everlastingly design piece


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[subtona]

Originally Posted by Hutrmila

No holes and no strap change ... isn’t the bracelet another iconic part of the watch ? Be it even jubilee on gmt ? Though oyster is everlastingly design piece


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Daytona’s are being produced with rubber straps

[Hutrmila]

Originally Posted by subtona

Daytona’s are being produced with rubber straps

Well; true it is ... would you buy one ? I have Maxi marine UN on rubber ... that model seems to be born with it; also UN bracelet don’t give much kick ... but IMHO all that Nato strap or leather and other makes just take out a bit of Rolex body and soul ... there is some taste for it without a doubt though ... respecting that


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[subtona]

Originally Posted by Boaters

Perfect

thank you

Originally Posted by Hutrmila

Well; true it is ... would you buy one ? I have Maxi marine UN on rubber ... that model seems to be born with it; also UN bracelet don’t give much kick ... but IMHO all that Nato strap or leather and other makes just take out a bit of Rolex body and soul ... there is some taste for it without a doubt though ... respecting that


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you raise good points.
regarding rubber, i find that very few rubber options are acceptable to me. i have tried many (maybe even most) of the premium offerings. that said i have never tried the rolex on rubber, primarily because i do not care for the clasp integration.

AP rubber strap is perfect
panerai rubber straps are excellent
patek rubber/composite strap is very good, the clasp not so much.


i would like it if the zenith daytona came with lugholes and any manual wind daytona is perfect for leather.

after a long list of options over the years, i find i prefer leather over rubber and a two piece nato type strap over traditional 1 piece nato type strap. adding thickness underneath the watch with traditional nato is not ideal.

[Paul7]

Originally Posted by Hutrmila

No holes and no strap change ... isn’t the bracelet another iconic part of the watch ? Be it even jubilee on gmt ? Though oyster is everlastingly design piece


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Agreed, NATOs seem to be more popular in the UK. Probably nothing to it, but I just see the holes as not only unsightly but something to go wrong and have a bracelet come off, Murphy's Law you know.

[btinl]

+lug holes. A strap change can completely change the appearance and feel of a watch.

[henrylee]

Holes and SEL

[dan993]

My polar 5 digit is one of my favourite pieces on a NATO strap, just a perfect piece. No argument.

[Njw]

I bought tons of NATOs and leather straps for my 16570. Took the first NATO off after 5 minutes and put the bracelet back on. To me it felt and looked cheap and was more of a hassle to put on and take off than the bracelet. Glad I went no lug holes.

[Hutrmila]

Originally Posted by Njw

I bought tons of NATOs and leather straps for my 16570. Took the first NATO off after 5 minutes and put the bracelet back on. To me it felt and looked cheap and was more of a hassle to put on and take off than the bracelet. Glad I went no lug holes.

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[landroverking]

Lug holes