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AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 06:25 AM

I've been researching and browsing for a year now, and finally took the plunge. It's a 116201, D serial number. It's gorgeous, but I have some concerns and wanted to get some perspective on whether they are minor issues. but first, here are some pics:

I haven't taken any shots of it on my wrist, as I'm really uncoordinated and have a terrible camera, so I may need my husband to take them. I love the size on me, even though I know there is some controversy here re: men's DJ on women.

And I have to give thanks to Anastasios (TempoKing) who was very patient with me when I thought I had decided on a SS watch (long story), and to Jim (Sperry) who "talked" me through the process and gave some great advice.

GerardoG · 16 April 2009, 06:30 AM

Great watch!

kcmo · 16 April 2009, 06:32 AM

Angela, CONGRATS!!!!!!

Kudos for going for the larger size! You will LOVE it!

And my favorite dial too!

Enjoy it in good health!

marshallr47 · 16 April 2009, 10:10 AM

Perfect choice on a first watch. Enjoy your new watch and enjoy for many years to come.

Yume-sama · 16 April 2009, 06:30 AM

Congrats!

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 06:33 AM

OK, so here's my main concern. There are some deep scratches on the back of the watch, almost as if someone had trouble taking the caseback off.

The scratches bug me because 1) they're scratches, and pretty deep, but more importantly, 2) if someone so unqualified opened up the watch, I wonder if I should ask an AD to check out the inside of the watch just to make sure there's nothing wrong with the inside.

also, in the pictures that the seller had, there was partial hologram sticker left on the back. now it has one of these plastic stickers with a red line across.

I trust the seller, he's a gray market jeweler who sold the watch to the original owner. he even gave me a copy of the original sales receipt. of course, it's possible he could have created it, but I have no reason to believe that he did.

any advice? are the scratches a big deal? should I get it checked out? at least have a pressure test to make sure that it's waterproof after it was put back together?

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 06:33 AM

And thanks for kind words, everyone. It took me so long to compose the second part of my post that I missed your posts!

Rambam · 16 April 2009, 06:41 AM

Nice choice AngelaH

I think Men`s Datejusts look great on women! Much the same way as when a woman is wearing your shirt, darn sexy!
Can`t really help you on the scratches or the sticker problem though, but I`m sure someone will be diving into that problem soon!

-Ram

diablojota · 16 April 2009, 06:36 AM

I would suggest taking it to an AD with a watchmaker and getting it inspected to be on the safe side. This is a big investment and it's worth getting the piece of mind.

Great looking watch!

kcmo · 16 April 2009, 06:38 AM

I agree with Frank. It's a shame they scratched the case so much....and I'd be concerned about why it was opened in the first place. Have it checked for peace of mind.

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

I agree with Frank. It's a shame they scratched the case so much....and I'd be concerned about why it was opened in the first place. Have it checked for peace of mind.

I'm thinking about asking the seller why he opened it and why he had such difficulty (if it was him)

kcmo · 16 April 2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelaH

I'm thinking about asking the seller why he opened it and why he had such difficulty (if it was him)

Angela, did he not send you photos before you purchased?

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcmo

Angela, did he not send you photos before you purchased?

I got pictures, but the ones of the back weren't clear/detailed enough to see the scracthes

kcmo · 16 April 2009, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelaH

I got pictures, but the ones of the back weren't clear/detailed enough to see the scracthes

Did he tell you about the scratches in his description? If not, you really have reason to send the watch back. I would talk to him and find out more.

train-time · 16 April 2009, 06:38 AM

Nice watch Angela. I noticed the ROLEX engraving inside on the Rehaut around the dial edge. The serial number is at the 6:00 position. Is it a "D" serial number? I was unaware of Rolex putting this engraving on any watches earlier than "M" series. Just curious.

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by train-time

Nice watch Angela. I noticed the ROLEX engraving inside on the Rehaut around the dial edge. The serial number is at the 6:00 position. Is it a "D" serial number? I was unaware of Rolex putting this engraving on any watches earlier than "M" series. Just curious.

Thanks!. yup, it's D serial number. you can see part of the serial in my picture.

ob1 · 16 April 2009, 06:40 AM

Great watch Angela. Hope your issues are resolved, but a beautiful watch. Congrats

PalmSpringsCaVault · 16 April 2009, 07:30 AM

Are the scratches beyond polishing? All i see is a sticker on the back of your watch, or are you talking about the tiny edge between the circular teeth and the case back disk edge? if you are that can be opened and its a very easy buff to restore it back to its untouched look. I have noticed thats a standard scratch from people using a Cheaper Rolex case back opener, and or opening it with the band still on the watch and not opened or removed, it makes the teeth line up or slipp off in the act of opening it. metal is very workable tho a simple refinish and you will should be happy. p.s. great looking watch and i am starting to see many women wear it on TV, its becoming the norm! your setting a trend : )

RD
The Jewelry Vault & Loan

train-time · 16 April 2009, 07:44 AM

Angela: Dalton on the TRF can do wonders with polishing. I have had him do a couple for me and he guarantees the waterproof seal on his work. If you are concerned and want a certified Rolex service person to look at it the AD in Hagerstown, MD can do it for you. Call first to check his schedule. He also is very good.

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 07:48 AM

RD, you're right, it's the ledge between the teeth and the edge of the case back.

Tim, Hagerstown is not too far from me. I'll PM you

Welshwatchman · 16 April 2009, 07:54 AM

I would send it back, not as described.

Sperry · 16 April 2009, 10:25 AM

Hi, Angela!

I'm so happy you received your first Rolex!
And saddened your experience is less than perfect. : (

You took pretty decent pictures to show what you like about the watch, and what you don't like about the watch.

There should be practically nothing in the "Don't like" column.

For what one pays, the watch should have looked like it was kept in a drawer, worn ten times tops.

Sorry to give a thumbs down, but I'd return it. Uggg! Scratches! Who was fooling with the watch!
Especially irksome that this level of skill might seem acceptable to some people in the trade.

It is this undocumented provenance which would lead me to return the watch.

However, the picky side of me can be over-ridden by the voice of reason.
Since this combo is harder to find, and with JJ's blessing, perhaps a buff-out isn't a big deal.

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 10:03 AM

^ that's a good point. I'm having trouble deciding what to do.

sea-dweller · 16 April 2009, 10:06 AM

Beautiful DJ, love that smooth bezel !

simoesm · 16 April 2009, 10:13 AM

Congrats on your choice. I love it.
Enjoy it well.
Hope you solve your worries soon.

JJ Irani · 16 April 2009, 10:20 AM

Welcome to TRF, Angela.

It really bugs me when some inexperienced idiot tries to tamper with things that he shouldn't!!

Anyway, as someone recommended, Dalton on TRF is amazing. Just send him a PM and he will help you out for sure.

By the way, guys......I've seen a D-series with the Rolex inscription on the rehaut ring......so this one doesn't surprise me.

JJ

AngelaH · 16 April 2009, 10:55 AM

Thanks for the opinions everyone! I PM'ed you Jim....

mdtddd2007 · 16 April 2009, 11:24 AM

first of all nice looking watch...as for scratches...i see alot..i'll have it inspected since you think was opened at AD for peace of mind...good luck...

AngelaH · 18 April 2009, 12:39 AM

Just to update everyone (in case anyone is curious): I gave it some thought and decided to return it, as some of you pointed out, the watch is not as described. Unfortunately, the seller got really ugly, really quickly, so I opened a PP dispute.

I thought I had done my homework, but apparently I hadn't done enough ;). But thanks to the great members at TRF, I've gotten great advice on to what to look for and ask about next time.

Thanks everyone!

kcmo · 18 April 2009, 12:48 AM

Angela, kudos to you! I would have done the same. IMO, the seller was dishonest in not adequately describing the condition of the watch before selling it to you. Getting your first Rolex should be a wonderful time....uneasy feelings shouldn't be part of the experience.

You WILL find the right one next time!

16 April 2009, 06:25 AM	#1
AngelaH Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 85	My first Rolex!!!! Pics...and some questions I've been researching and browsing for a year now, and finally took the plunge. It's a 116201, D serial number. It's gorgeous, but I have some concerns and wanted to get some perspective on whether they are minor issues. but first, here are some pics: I haven't taken any shots of it on my wrist, as I'm really uncoordinated and have a terrible camera, so I may need my husband to take them. I love the size on me, even though I know there is some controversy here re: men's DJ on women. And I have to give thanks to Anastasios (TempoKing) who was very patient with me when I thought I had decided on a SS watch (long story), and to Jim (Sperry) who "talked" me through the process and gave some great advice.

16 April 2009, 10:10 AM	#4
marshallr47 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Ron Location: Alabama Watch: Daytona,TT Sub,GMT Posts: 4,673	Perfect choice on a first watch. Enjoy your new watch and enjoy for many years to come. __________________ Ron

16 April 2009, 06:36 AM	#9
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	I would suggest taking it to an AD with a watchmaker and getting it inspected to be on the safe side. This is a big investment and it's worth getting the piece of mind. Great looking watch! __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

16 April 2009, 07:54 AM	#21
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	I would send it back, not as described. __________________ ..33

16 April 2009, 10:06 AM	#24
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Beautiful DJ, love that smooth bezel ! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

16 April 2009, 06:30 AM	#2
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Great watch!

16 April 2009, 06:32 AM	#3
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Angela, CONGRATS!!!!!! Kudos for going for the larger size! You will LOVE it! And my favorite dial too! Enjoy it in good health!

16 April 2009, 06:30 AM	#5
Yume-sama "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: CAN / SIN Watch: Plat. Masterpiece Posts: 1,959	Congrats!

16 April 2009, 06:33 AM	#6
AngelaH Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 85	OK, so here's my main concern. There are some deep scratches on the back of the watch, almost as if someone had trouble taking the caseback off. The scratches bug me because 1) they're scratches, and pretty deep, but more importantly, 2) if someone so unqualified opened up the watch, I wonder if I should ask an AD to check out the inside of the watch just to make sure there's nothing wrong with the inside. also, in the pictures that the seller had, there was partial hologram sticker left on the back. now it has one of these plastic stickers with a red line across. I trust the seller, he's a gray market jeweler who sold the watch to the original owner. he even gave me a copy of the original sales receipt. of course, it's possible he could have created it, but I have no reason to believe that he did. any advice? are the scratches a big deal? should I get it checked out? at least have a pressure test to make sure that it's waterproof after it was put back together?

16 April 2009, 06:41 AM	#8
Rambam Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 408	Nice choice AngelaH I think Men`s Datejusts look great on women! Much the same way as when a woman is wearing your shirt, darn sexy! Can`t really help you on the scratches or the sticker problem though, but I`m sure someone will be diving into that problem soon! -Ram

16 April 2009, 06:38 AM	#10
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	I agree with Frank. It's a shame they scratched the case so much....and I'd be concerned about why it was opened in the first place. Have it checked for peace of mind.

16 April 2009, 06:38 AM	#15
train-time 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maryland, US Watch: less Posts: 4,199	Nice watch Angela. I noticed the ROLEX engraving inside on the Rehaut around the dial edge. The serial number is at the 6:00 position. Is it a "D" serial number? I was unaware of Rolex putting this engraving on any watches earlier than "M" series. Just curious.

16 April 2009, 06:40 AM	#17
ob1 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: canterbury Watch: new pussycat? Posts: 635	Great watch Angela. Hope your issues are resolved, but a beautiful watch. Congrats

16 April 2009, 07:30 AM	#18
PalmSpringsCaVault Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: palm springs CA Watch: Plat.118296DayDate Posts: 192	Are the scratches beyond polishing? All i see is a sticker on the back of your watch, or are you talking about the tiny edge between the circular teeth and the case back disk edge? if you are that can be opened and its a very easy buff to restore it back to its untouched look. I have noticed thats a standard scratch from people using a Cheaper Rolex case back opener, and or opening it with the band still on the watch and not opened or removed, it makes the teeth line up or slipp off in the act of opening it. metal is very workable tho a simple refinish and you will should be happy. p.s. great looking watch and i am starting to see many women wear it on TV, its becoming the norm! your setting a trend : ) RD The Jewelry Vault & Loan

16 April 2009, 07:44 AM	#19
train-time 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maryland, US Watch: less Posts: 4,199	Angela: Dalton on the TRF can do wonders with polishing. I have had him do a couple for me and he guarantees the waterproof seal on his work. If you are concerned and want a certified Rolex service person to look at it the AD in Hagerstown, MD can do it for you. Call first to check his schedule. He also is very good.

16 April 2009, 07:48 AM	#20
AngelaH Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 85	RD, you're right, it's the ledge between the teeth and the edge of the case back. Tim, Hagerstown is not too far from me. I'll PM you

16 April 2009, 10:25 AM	#22
Sperry "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Alpha Posts: 3,383	Hi, Angela! I'm so happy you received your first Rolex! And saddened your experience is less than perfect. : ( You took pretty decent pictures to show what you like about the watch, and what you don't like about the watch. There should be practically nothing in the "Don't like" column. For what one pays, the watch should have looked like it was kept in a drawer, worn ten times tops. Sorry to give a thumbs down, but I'd return it. Uggg! Scratches! Who was fooling with the watch! Especially irksome that this level of skill might seem acceptable to some people in the trade. It is this undocumented provenance which would lead me to return the watch. However, the picky side of me can be over-ridden by the voice of reason. Since this combo is harder to find, and with JJ's blessing, perhaps a buff-out isn't a big deal.

16 April 2009, 10:03 AM	#23
AngelaH Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 85	^ that's a good point. I'm having trouble deciding what to do.

16 April 2009, 10:13 AM	#25
simoesm "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Manuel Location: Portugal Watch: SS Sub Date Black Posts: 260	Congrats on your choice. I love it. Enjoy it well. Hope you solve your worries soon. __________________ 1999 SS Tag Heuer 1500 blue dial & bezel 2001 SS Omega Speedmaster silver dial 2008 SS "M" Subdate black dial & bezel

16 April 2009, 10:20 AM	#26
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Welcome to TRF, Angela. It really bugs me when some inexperienced idiot tries to tamper with things that he shouldn't!! Anyway, as someone recommended, Dalton on TRF is amazing. Just send him a PM and he will help you out for sure. By the way, guys......I've seen a D-series with the Rolex inscription on the rehaut ring......so this one doesn't surprise me. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

16 April 2009, 10:55 AM	#27
AngelaH Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 85	Thanks for the opinions everyone! I PM'ed you Jim....

16 April 2009, 11:24 AM	#28
mdtddd2007 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,794	first of all nice looking watch...as for scratches...i see alot..i'll have it inspected since you think was opened at AD for peace of mind...good luck...

18 April 2009, 12:39 AM	#29
AngelaH Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 85	Just to update everyone (in case anyone is curious): I gave it some thought and decided to return it, as some of you pointed out, the watch is not as described. Unfortunately, the seller got really ugly, really quickly, so I opened a PP dispute. I thought I had done my homework, but apparently I hadn't done enough ;). But thanks to the great members at TRF, I've gotten great advice on to what to look for and ask about next time. Thanks everyone!

18 April 2009, 12:48 AM	#30
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Angela, kudos to you! I would have done the same. IMO, the seller was dishonest in not adequately describing the condition of the watch before selling it to you. Getting your first Rolex should be a wonderful time....uneasy feelings shouldn't be part of the experience. You WILL find the right one next time!

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