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CharlieG · 24 May 2009, 07:17 PM

Fake

Seller: domsuprme( 0 )
Member: since May-23-09 in United States
This Gentleman's Rolex Submariner is a very beautiful and elegant timepiece.

It is very slightly used. Worn to a few special engagements.

All Submariner Date models are Officially Certified Chronometers.

2005 Model

MSRP $6000

40.00mm stainless steel case, excluding crown

Black dial with luminous markers

Time-lapse Bezel. No marks or scratches in bezel.

31 Jewel Chronometer Movement

Pressure Proof to 1000 feet

Self-winding Movement

Rolex Original Sapphire Crystal

Original special stainless steel Bracelet with special flip-lock clasp. All links included.

All parts are original on watch.

This watch will fit an 8 1/2" size wrist or smaller.

Watch is running properly.

No marks, dents, dings or scratches.

Band number 16620.

Our watch experts would rate this watch a 9 out of 10.

Watch weighs 135 grams.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-OYSTER-PER...3A1%7C294%3A50

idk01 · 24 May 2009, 07:20 PM

Nice catch Charlie

Will be a nice addition to the can

TimeToGo · 24 May 2009, 10:16 PM

Oh my! KAKA

Flaxmoore · 25 May 2009, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Oh my! KAKA

Okay, why? I'm trying to learn.

gpateesq · 25 May 2009, 03:18 AM

Me too.

idk01 · 25 May 2009, 02:11 AM

Gone

This listing (270396098496) has been removed, or this item is not available.

idk01 · 25 May 2009, 03:19 AM

In the first photo above the clasp is no where near the authentic with a thumb recess you could loose a heard of elephants

and the loop on the bottom of the coronet is incorrect, should give a 3d look and nearly disappear at the bottom of the loop.

The second the rehaut is way off not deep enough, the diameter is smaller as it meets the dial.

Rolex Coronet on the dial is sitting slightly right of the 12 hour marker and the text on the dial isn't as prominent as it should be.

:-) Hope I got everything

I'm sure the guys will jump in and add more.

Dave,

idk01 · 25 May 2009, 03:25 AM

Just for reference, here is a comparison fake on the left authentic on the right -

idk01 · 25 May 2009, 03:26 AM

And how the authentic clasp should look -

another look at an authentic dial at an angle-

Another typical error with fakes is the crownguards and and over sized crown.
Non descending thickness of the links on the bracelet as you go from the head of the watch to the clasp.

Flaxmoore · 25 May 2009, 03:50 AM

Does that fake even have crown guards?

idk01 · 25 May 2009, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaxmoore

Does that fake even have crown guards?

Thats the over sized crown sticking out like a sore thumb, I'll find a pic of a fake crown and guards :-)

Check this one out -

Andad · 25 May 2009, 06:38 PM

The 'm' in the '300m' is way out of alignment with 'chronometer'. It is way too far to the left. Apart from the thumbnail recess (as a rear bracelet pix is sometimes not available) this is the first thing I look at along with the thickness of the marker surrounds.

24 May 2009, 07:17 PM	#1
CharlieG "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Charlie Location: NY Posts: 1,135	Rolex oyster perpetual submariner black dial Fake Seller: domsuprme( 0 ) Member: since May-23-09 in United States This Gentleman's Rolex Submariner is a very beautiful and elegant timepiece. It is very slightly used. Worn to a few special engagements. All Submariner Date models are Officially Certified Chronometers. 2005 Model MSRP $6000 40.00mm stainless steel case, excluding crown Black dial with luminous markers Time-lapse Bezel. No marks or scratches in bezel. 31 Jewel Chronometer Movement Pressure Proof to 1000 feet Self-winding Movement Rolex Original Sapphire Crystal Original special stainless steel Bracelet with special flip-lock clasp. All links included. All parts are original on watch. This watch will fit an 8 1/2" size wrist or smaller. Watch is running properly. No marks, dents, dings or scratches. Band number 16620. Our watch experts would rate this watch a 9 out of 10. Watch weighs 135 grams. http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-OYSTER-PER...3A1%7C294%3A50

24 May 2009, 07:20 PM	#2
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Nice catch Charlie Will be a nice addition to the can __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 May 2009, 02:11 AM	#6
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Gone This listing (270396098496) has been removed, or this item is not available. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 May 2009, 03:19 AM	#7
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	In the first photo above the clasp is no where near the authentic with a thumb recess you could loose a heard of elephants and the loop on the bottom of the coronet is incorrect, should give a 3d look and nearly disappear at the bottom of the loop. The second the rehaut is way off not deep enough, the diameter is smaller as it meets the dial. Rolex Coronet on the dial is sitting slightly right of the 12 hour marker and the text on the dial isn't as prominent as it should be. :-) Hope I got everything I'm sure the guys will jump in and add more. Dave, __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 May 2009, 03:25 AM	#8
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Just for reference, here is a comparison fake on the left authentic on the right - __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

24 May 2009, 10:16 PM	#3
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,716	Oh my! KAKA

25 May 2009, 03:18 AM	#5
gpateesq "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: California Watch: Tudor Date+Day Posts: 129	Me too.

25 May 2009, 03:26 AM	#9
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	And how the authentic clasp should look - another look at an authentic dial at an angle- Another typical error with fakes is the crownguards and and over sized crown. Non descending thickness of the links on the bracelet as you go from the head of the watch to the clasp. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

25 May 2009, 03:50 AM	#10
Flaxmoore Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Casey Location: Toledo, Ohio Watch: Alpha Milsub Posts: 704	Does that fake even have crown guards?

25 May 2009, 06:38 PM	#12
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,505	The 'm' in the '300m' is way out of alignment with 'chronometer'. It is way too far to the left. Apart from the thumbnail recess (as a rear bracelet pix is sometimes not available) this is the first thing I look at along with the thickness of the marker surrounds. __________________ E

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