AP 15400 for Daytona

[YoungMoneyAssassin]

Hi All,

I’m considering trading my AP Royal Oak 15400 silver dial for an unworn white dial cosmo Daytona.

Outside of the RO, my collection consists of a submariner date and a blue dial VC4500. I feel
I am in need of a chrono in the collection and what better option than the Daytona.

Since both are valued at about $35-$40K right now it seems like a pretty good idea and a reasonably fair trade.

What would you do if you were me? I am out of my mind to part with the AP?


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[Casotakar]

As an innocent bystander having no experience with a Daytona or Royal Oak, I’d keep the Royal Oak. I hear it’s the best bracelet on a stainless steel sports watch. Plus can double as your water/diver/etc watch. I’d dump the Sub W/date and put that cash towards a Daytona purchase. Puts you half way there with a used Daytona.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by Casotakar

As an innocent bystander having no experience with a Daytona or Royal Oak, I’d keep the Royal Oak. I hear it’s the best bracelet on a stainless steel sports watch. Plus can double as your water/diver/etc watch. I’d dump the Sub W/date and put that cash towards a Daytona purchase. Puts you half way there with a used Daytona.

This.

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[sutats]

Originally Posted by Casotakar

As an innocent bystander having no experience with a Daytona or Royal Oak, I’d keep the Royal Oak. I hear it’s the best bracelet on a stainless steel sports watch. Plus can double as your water/diver/etc watch. I’d dump the Sub W/date and put that cash towards a Daytona purchase. Puts you half way there with a used Daytona.

The Audemars Piguet 15400 has a water resistance of 50m, I think it's unwise to class it as a diver.

[Deppe]

Originally Posted by sutats

The Audemars Piguet 15400 has a water resistance of 50m, I think it's unwise to class it as a diver.

This. I have never considered a RO, due to its poor WR. That is one of the things I really appreciate about Rolex watches - besides the Cellini line, all of them are basically everywhere/anything watches.

I got a PP Aquanaut 5167 instead. Fantastic watch, really thin and the sunburst dial was beautiful, but after a while it got a little bit boring. Then the Nautilus got discontinued and the prices went crazy, so I might as well cash in on that. Ended up trading it for a white 116500 and cash my way, and I am very happy, even though the Aquanaut are also viewed as classes above the Daytona.

Now if I could just find that FPJ for a price that I am willing to pay

EDIT: I might add that I am a big fan of the Daytona, or chronographs in general, so that is also why the trade made sense for me.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Deppe

This. I have never considered a RO, due to its poor WR. That is one of the things I really appreciate about Rolex watches - besides the Cellini line, all of them are basically everywhere/anything watches.

I got a PP Aquanaut 5167 instead. Fantastic watch, really thin and the sunburst dial was beautiful, but after a while it got a little bit boring. Then the Nautilus got discontinued and the prices went crazy, so I might as well cash in on that. Ended up trading it for a white 116500 and cash my way, and I am very happy, even though the Aquanaut are also viewed as classes above the Daytona.

Now if I could just find that FPJ for a price that I am willing to pay

EDIT: I might add that I am a big fan of the Daytona, or chronographs in general, so that is also why the trade made sense for me.

An Aquanaut is just about the only thing I'd trade a RO for. Still fragile, but a little more robust.

OP: If you want an iconic chronograph, go out and buy a Speedmaster or Zenith, IMO.

[Deppe]

Originally Posted by dannyp

An Aquanaut is just about the only thing I'd trade a RO for. Still fragile, but a little more robust.

OP: If you want an iconic chronograph, go out and buy a Speedmaster or Zenith, IMO.

Oh, nothing bad about the Aquanaut from me - but I would probably go for the travel time, if I had to do it again. I figure that the added thickness might also help a little bit regarding the robust feeling.

[WatchtraderNY]

Keep the AP! It is a beautiful watch. You can always add the Daytona in the future


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[mineral]

Definitely keep the royal oak. The classic date and time royal oak will get more difficult to find back in future


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[sokoloka]

Not a chance.

[watchtabs]

Keep the AP!!!

[Rashid.bk]

Tough choice, I’d keep the AP though, no question. It’s really another level, and watch for watch when you subtract hype and fomo the AP is the standout.
But you gotta choose the one you like best for you.

[EdwardC]

Objectively, the 15400 is miles away better than the Daytona. So I wouldn't recommend the trade.

Subjectively, it's your call. I would however rather spend the money to buy an unworn white 116520 instead.

[PepsiBezel]

Originally Posted by EdwardC

Objectively, the 15400 is miles away better than the Daytona. So I wouldn't recommend the trade.

Subjectively, it's your call. I would however rather spend the money to buy an unworn white 116520 instead.

I guess it depends on what objective criteria you apply…

[MaxxWatchesOn]

Originally Posted by YoungMoneyAssassin

Hi All,

I’m considering trading my AP Royal Oak 15400 silver dial for an unworn white dial cosmo Daytona.

Outside of the RO, my collection consists of a submariner date and a blue dial VC4500. I feel
I am in need of a chrono in the collection and what better option than the Daytona.

Since both are valued at about $35-$40K right now it seems like a pretty good idea and a reasonably fair trade.

What would you do if you were me? I am out of my mind to part with the AP?


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"I am out of my mind to part with the AP?" Not really, but you would be.

Daytona is beautiful watch, so amazing for me that its my wallpaper.

However, I would have traded 2 of daytonas for one of AP15400. (Not really, I would have kept one). Came across one yesterday again and my heart skipped another beat. That beautiful bracelet and the tapisserie dial... Cant seem to get on the list though.

But one day...

[Frank McKay]

Ceramic white Daytona is an icon, a grail, will stand the test of time and only increase it’s value. I like the RO but too much nuts and bolts optics for me, the Daytona wears beautifully on the wrist and screams class.

[alex.cicollo]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Ceramic white Daytona is an icon, a grail, will stand the test of time and only increase it’s value. I like the RO but too much nuts and bolts optics for me, the Daytona wears beautifully on the wrist and screams class.

Agree 100%

[RealMadrid1988]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Ceramic white Daytona is an icon, a grail, will stand the test of time and only increase it’s value. I like the RO but too much nuts and bolts optics for me, the Daytona wears beautifully on the wrist and screams class.

The Royal Oak quite literally started the entire luxury sports watch segment. The Daytona is great, but this is no contest IMO.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by RealMadrid1988

The Royal Oak quite literally started the entire luxury sports watch segment. The Daytona is great, but this is no contest IMO.

I would say submariner holds that title.

[Frank McKay]

Originally Posted by JRell

I would say submariner holds that title.

Correct

[Fenrira]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Correct

The Submariner started off as a tool watch, and didn’t move upmarket until the 1980s when Rolex pushed marketing campaigns to boost the prestige of its brand. In the 1970’s, a Sub cost approximately $230, which would amount to $1500 today. Not a cheap watch, but not a luxury product either. It was Audemars Piguet that pioneered the luxury sports watch in 1972 – that’s literally what the Royal Oak is known for.

[Giangos]

Originally Posted by JRell

I would say submariner holds that title.

I’m not sure that the sub was ever meant to be a luxury SS watch. That’s the key here, luxury.

I’m not a a huge RO fan, but truth is that it was designed and marketed as a luxury SS piece. Yes I agree with the earlier post describing it as the first luxury SS watch. It was designed to take the fight to the Japanese quartz movement and it created a new market segment. This was followed by the VC 222 and the PP Nautilus - not in that order.

The sub did not play at all in this space. At SS, I still don’t think it does.


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[Tensai]

Definitely prefer the Daytona.
Respect for AP history and craftsmanship, but they are not good looking watches (to me).

[eleven11prints]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Ceramic white Daytona is an icon, a grail, will stand the test of time and only increase it’s value. I like the RO but too much nuts and bolts optics for me, the Daytona wears beautifully on the wrist and screams class.

+1. although, the RO is pretty nice........

Save for the Daytona and lose the sub to make up the difference.

[Jakey]

Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Ceramic white Daytona is an icon, a grail, will stand the test of time and only increase it’s value. I like the RO but too much nuts and bolts optics for me, the Daytona wears beautifully on the wrist and screams class.

That

[TheVTCGuy]

IMHO, the AP is the better timepiece, I think it’s worth more too(?). However, you wear what you like. So my advice is: Trade or no based on which one you will enjoy wearing more. Simple.

[shkure]

The Daytona is the top dog…in the Rolex category. But when you wear an AP RO, you are in a different league all together. Dont do the trade.


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[Fenrira]

You’re probably going to miss the Royal Oak if you trade it in. The Daytona is a fantastic watch, but the AP is heads and shoulders above it in terms of finishing and build quality.

[DRuss]

I'll say do the trade, the way Rolex prices are going up these days I bet it will increase in value faster than the AP. Great choice.

[Daytonaman799]

Hard call. If it was a 15202 I’d say no way but a 15400 is a different kettle of fish. In the old days before prices went bananas a Daytona was worth more (5/10 yrs ago). Retail the AP is more but the Daytona’s have never been available at retail for most to begin with. I think the ceramic Daytona has all the best features of the modern (automatic) Daytona. The dial is like the original porcelain dial of the first 16520’s, the bezel is amazing and like the 6263 and the movement is a tank that is super accurate and the wear is great. The AP is thicker and more robust than the original jumbo and most definitely is rarer with a different feel. I have had 3 AP’s and now don’t have any. I had a 15292, a 25202 perp cal, and an Offshore Dual time. I don’t have any of them anymore but I do have a 6240, a 116520 and a 116500. I do regret having traded my AP’s but I kept my Daytona’s. All things being equal the RO is a bit dressier and rarer but the Daytona is a staple that stands the test of time. Of all the watch brands I have had and do have now I always find myself going back to Rolex. Even in the rotation I have now. I don’t think it’s a dumb trade but you might be able tosell the AP for a bit more and you can use the cash to buy the Daytona with some change left over.