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Old 13 November 2021, 04:18 PM   #1
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Icon9 Quality / design issue in Rolesor Oyster bracelets: Gold piece can fall off the clasp

I bought my Root Beer new from an AD about a year ago and have been wearing it as a daily watch everywhere - at the pool / beach etc. A few days ago a gold strip from the clasp just fell off! Luckily I didn't loose the gold strip. I'm a bit shocked that the there is only a thin 0.6mm piece of gold stuck on the clasp of the watch.

This is my first Rolex in Rolesor with an oyster bracelet - I suppose this may be a potential issue with all Rolesor models with Oyster bracelets?

My watch is under warranty and I will send it back. Posting pictures so you all are aware of this design / quality issue.
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Old 13 November 2021, 04:29 PM   #2
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Wow I've never seen such thing before! Hope that'd not happen with the full rg piece i'm planning to get soon. Goodluck with urs and hope there's no charge as this should never happened


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Old 13 November 2021, 04:51 PM   #3
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Quality / design issue in Rolesor Oyster bracelets: Gold piece can fall off the clasp

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Wow I've never seen such thing before! Hope that'd not happen with the full rg piece i'm planning to get soon.

It won’t. Because the full pm piece is machined from a solid block of gold.

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This is my first Rolex in Rolesor with an oyster bracelet - I suppose this may be a potential issue with all Rolesor models with Oyster bracelets?

My watch is under warranty and I will send it back. Posting pictures so you all are aware of this design / quality issue.


The clasp of any two tone Rolex regardless oyster or jubilee is primarily 914L steel with the gold portion fused on. It’s the same method they used with older 5 digits TT watches and issues like this have been posted before on TRF with the older TT models

Take a guess what the solution is going to be.
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Old 15 November 2021, 10:53 PM   #4
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It won’t. Because the full pm piece is machined from a solid block of gold.





The clasp of any two tone Rolex regardless oyster or jubilee is primarily 914L steel with the gold portion fused on. It’s the same method they used with older 5 digits TT watches and issues like this have been posted before on TRF with the older TT models

Take a guess what the solution is going to be.
Gorilla glue?
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Gorilla glue?

They only do the fusion/solder at the factory.
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Old 13 November 2021, 04:58 PM   #6
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Not something you'll see everyday. I've always thought it was solid gold for the middle section. Thanks for sharing this.
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Old 13 November 2021, 05:00 PM   #7
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Keep it and sell it. Tell Rolex it fell off*

*I do not condone charity theft

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Old 13 November 2021, 05:30 PM   #8
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Wow, pretty tacky

I always assumed that it was actually solid.

Another reason to avoid TT.
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I guess I’d never thought about whether the clasp gold portion was solid or not. It’s not a surprise that it’s not really but yeah, to see the strip like that with glue marks is not a great look!
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Wow…sorry that happened, but thanks for posting it. Never seen that before
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Old 13 November 2021, 05:40 PM   #11
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I cannot believe it's just glued like that... disappointing.
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I bought my Root Beer new from an AD about a year ago and have been wearing it as a daily watch everywhere - at the pool / beach etc. A few days ago a gold strip from the clasp just fell off! Luckily I didn't loose the gold strip. I'm a bit shocked that the there is only a thin 0.6mm piece of gold stuck on the clasp of the watch.

This is my first Rolex in Rolesor with an oyster bracelet - I suppose this may be a potential issue with all Rolesor models with Oyster bracelets?

My watch is under warranty and I will send it back. Posting pictures so you all are aware of this design / quality issue.



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I cannot believe it's just glued like that... disappointing.


Well hardly a design issue been around Rolex watches for longer than many on forum have been alive.And ever since the RolesorTT bracelets were first introduced on watches like the sub in 1983, this is only the second one that I have ever seen.Yes it should not happen but sure Rolex will sort it out with out any problems,and its not glued its fused by heat very similar to a spot weld.
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Old 15 November 2021, 02:37 AM   #13
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Well hardly a design issue been around Rolex watches for longer than many on forum have been alive.And ever since the RolesorTT bracelets were first introduced on watches like the sub in 1983, this is only the second one that I have ever seen.Yes it should not happen but sure Rolex will sort it out with out any problems,and its not glued its fused by heat very similar to a spot weld.
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Old 13 November 2021, 08:02 PM   #14
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Very disappointing. I always thought the rose gold links were full rose gold, not just gold plated.
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Old 13 November 2021, 08:18 PM   #15
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Very disappointing. I always thought the rose gold links were full rose gold, not just gold plated.
They are not gold plated in any way if gold plated it would be around 4 microns thick, all centre links on all the TT bracelets are sold 18Ct gold. The thin 0.6mm solid 18Ct gold strip on the clasp is fused to the SS clasp, as it would be almost impossible to make a solid clasp from SS and gold.
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Old 13 November 2021, 08:19 PM   #16
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Wow, like others I naively thought the block of gold on the clasp was solid with the steel flanks. So it's actually steel with a piece of 0.6mm gold fused on top? Never would have guessed. I might test the local SA's knowledge and see if she knows that. I wonder if anybody has asked her before?
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Wow, like others I naively thought the block of gold on the clasp was solid with the steel flanks. So it's actually steel with a piece of 0.6mm gold fused on top? Never would have guessed. I might test the local SA's knowledge and see if she knows that. I wonder if anybody has asked her before?

I was thinking the exact same thing! Not much gold it twotones…. Shouldn’t cost as much considering its a this strip of gold


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Old 13 November 2021, 08:23 PM   #18
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well TBH I'm glad too see this.

I'm sure Rolex will fix it and I'm sorry that it happens to you.

But it's good to see, so people might understand such things can happen to all brands.
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Ouch! That’s a big surprise. I wonder what specific durability tests were / could be applied to thoroughly test this design (or manufacturing) defect?
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Old 13 November 2021, 08:59 PM   #20
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I'd feel much more ripped off than I expected.
That would be a flip for me.
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I'd feel much more ripped off than I expected.
That would be a flip for me.
How anyone could think they were being ripped off defeats me, as its not possible to make a solid SS and gold clasp. So a thin strip of solid 18Ct is fused in the solid SS clasp is the only way to do it. Once on the TT subs there was no gold strip as clasp was all just plain SS.
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How anyone could think they were being ripped off defeats me, as its not possible to make a solid SS and gold clasp. So a thin strip of solid 18Ct is fused in the solid SS clasp is the only way to do it. Once on the TT subs there was no gold strip as clasp was all just plain SS.
I’m with you here. It’s not a surprise to me. Technically, combining solid 18ct gold and SS in the clasp would just not be worth it. I don’t own any TT but this wouldn’t put me off.
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How anyone could think they were being ripped off defeats me, as its not possible to make a solid SS and gold clasp. So a thin strip of solid 18Ct is fused in the solid SS clasp is the only way to do it. Once on the TT subs there was no gold strip as clasp was all just plain SS.



i agree that it is an overreach to feel ripped off. while this shouldn't happen, considering the volume of watches without issue it is understandable to have an occasional imperfection.



i am reasonably sure that the TT clasp could be made by rolex if they so desired...
after all they cracked the code on the ceramic pepsi bezel, they all said that could not be done
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I'm so sorry to see disillusionment. In nine years here this is the first I've seen like this.
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It's been reported here before. Happily it doesn't happen often, so if properly repaired it is unlikely to happen again.
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I'd much rather have SS or PM rather than something fudged up to look like something else.
Hey my money my choice.
I bet the cosmetic additions weren't pointed out at purchase.
Buyer beware. IMHO
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I'd much rather have SS or PM rather than something fudged up to look like something else.
Hey my money my choice.
I bet the cosmetic additions weren't pointed out at purchase.
Buyer beware. IMHO
Agree with you. Only older TT models are interesting IMO, with the old clasp being completely SS.

However Rolex is legit when you go full PM.

Tried a Chopard alpine the other day, and the déployant interior part (the part you don’t see when claps is closed) was made of metal. So it was effectively a two tone bracelet (despite the full PM price lol).
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I'd much rather have SS or PM rather than something fudged up to look like something else.
Hey my money my choice.
I bet the cosmetic additions weren't pointed out at purchase.
Buyer beware. IMHO
Its blinding obvious when you open the clasp, no one is getting conned here

For the entire centre section to be gold, the clasp would require to be pinned together which would probably make the TT clasp more expensive to produce than one made entirely of 18ct gold
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I’ve been wearing two tone Rolex’s for thirty years and this is only the second time I’ve seen this. Of course it’s fused on the steel clasp. If one looks at the underside of the clasp, it’s quite obvious it’s fused on. How else would they match up with the TT bracelet? The older models had a solid steel clasp. Didn’t look quite right. I’m glad they fuse this piece on.


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