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haney · 9 June 2009, 05:19 AM

i am not an expert of rolex. i got offered this watch, but i dont know if it is real. can you tell?

Mosco · 9 June 2009, 05:20 AM

Doesn't look good to me...

Prince · 9 June 2009, 05:24 AM

I would stay away if I were you. Either that, or ask if you can take the watch to have it inspected by an expert first, before you shell out any cash.

djhiram · 9 June 2009, 05:27 AM

Submariner dial with a GMT bezel insert?

Prince · 9 June 2009, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by djhiram

Submariner dial with a GMT bezel insert?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's not an authentic Sub, Hiram. It DOES mean that the person who owns it now has absolutely no taste whatsoever!

haney · 9 June 2009, 05:32 AM

so its probably a fake??

Prince · 9 June 2009, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by haney

so its probably a fake??

Chances are good that it is. Can you get the person who is selling it to let you take it in for an evaluation by an AD or a watchmaker that is Rolex-trained? If you cannot verify the authenticity of the watch, I would stay away.

Noonan · 9 June 2009, 05:36 AM

At the very least, the bezel is fake. That alone is enough to raise red flags.

haney · 9 June 2009, 05:40 AM

how can u tell that the bezel is fake? just curious:-)

Noonan · 9 June 2009, 05:45 AM

Pepsi bezels were only made for GMT's with the 24 hour markings. Subs only have come in all black or green for the LV.

Prince · 9 June 2009, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Noonan

Pepsi bezels were only made for GMT's with the 24 hour markings. Subs only have come in all black or green for the LV.

But that doesn't mean that the owner didn't install a GMT bezel on his Sub. That is easily done.

And don't forget to mention that Subs come with "blue" bezels as well. I have one!

Noonan · 9 June 2009, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

But that doesn't mean that the owner didn't install a GMT bezel on his Sub. That is easily done.

And don't forget to mention that Subs come with "blue" bezels as well. I have one!

True but a GMT bezel would have the 24 hour markings on it rather than the timer markings of a sub bezel like the one in the pic.

Forgot about the blue bezel. Still waiting for my first TT or gold model.

haney · 9 June 2009, 06:29 AM

someone here who knows a good place to buy used and REAL rolex?
someplace on the internet?

motomc1 · 9 June 2009, 06:31 AM

nt

Alcan · 9 June 2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haney

someone here who knows a good place to buy used and REAL rolex?
someplace on the internet?

Yes, right here. Ponycar350, TempoKing (Anastasios), Steve Mulholland and a few other sellers here are rock solid and deliver what they advertise.

Prince · 9 June 2009, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noonan

True but a GMT bezel would have the 24 hour markings on it rather than the timer markings of a sub bezel like the one in the pic.

Forgot about the blue bezel. Still waiting for my first TT or gold model.

That's true. Good point.

Best of luck getting a TT Sub - I love mine!

Desperado · 9 June 2009, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince

But that doesn't mean that the owner didn't install a GMT bezel on his Sub. That is easily done.

And don't forget to mention that Subs come with "blue" bezels as well. I have one!

Blue Bezel & a black dial??? how does it look like? any pics?

bobdog377 · 10 June 2009, 05:57 AM

definite fake ,the first thing I always check on a sub is if the "m's" on the dial(300m& the m in submariner) are lined up one above the other,this one is way out.

haney · 9 June 2009, 05:48 AM

ok. i really wanted that rolex, so im not happy it is a fake:-(
It is a small aftermarket for rolex in norway, so i cant choose among watches

Prince · 9 June 2009, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haney

ok. i really wanted that rolex, so im not happy it is a fake:-(
It is a small aftermarket for rolex in norway, so i cant choose among watches

Look Haney, I am not saying that it IS a fake. It's just that some additional investigation needs to be made before we would clear that particular watch. Remember, we are evaluating it by only the two photos you have provided. I would never provide a solid "Yes, it's a fake" on only that.

Investigate. If you can't, then pass it up.

haney · 9 June 2009, 05:55 AM

thank u very much for help:-)
if it is a fake, it seems to be a good on then(if u can call a fake "good one")
i hoped there where things on the pics that could make u pretty sure if it was fake or real, but i understand the problems with doing that:-)

motomc1 · 9 June 2009, 05:57 AM

any further. IMHO

haney · 9 June 2009, 05:59 AM

please explain:-)

onkyo · 9 June 2009, 06:15 AM

Run like your a$$ was at the end of this flame -->

motomc1 · 9 June 2009, 06:23 AM

nt

sexner · 9 June 2009, 07:22 AM

The shoulders on the case protecting the crown look wrong too. I would not buy from anyplace other than an AD.

jdrolltide3838 · 9 June 2009, 09:09 AM

What a joke

springer · 9 June 2009, 01:56 PM

This watch is 100% fake based on the photos and has all the attributes of the fake GMT/Sub.

The band is fake, the dial is a fake (maxi dial) the insert is fake and the crown is fake.

Z-Sub · 9 June 2009, 03:38 PM

Enough said, even I can tell it's not real

9 June 2009, 05:19 AM	#1
haney "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: norway Posts: 7	do u experts find this real??? i am not an expert of rolex. i got offered this watch, but i dont know if it is real. can you tell? Attached Images

9 June 2009, 05:20 AM	#2
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Doesn't look good to me... __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

9 June 2009, 05:24 AM	#3
Prince "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Allan Location: St. Augustine, FL Watch: Daytona/Sub/GMT/DJ Posts: 20,323	I would stay away if I were you. Either that, or ask if you can take the watch to have it inspected by an expert first, before you shell out any cash. __________________ Member: Rolex Keeper's Society "You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself." - Rick Nelson

9 June 2009, 06:31 AM	#14
motomc1 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,848	Right here on this forums "for Sale/Wanting To Buy" section nt nt

10 June 2009, 05:57 AM	#18
bobdog377 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Roland Location: uk Watch: 16600+1603 tt Posts: 273	definite fake ,the first thing I always check on a sub is if the "m's" on the dial(300m& the m in submariner) are lined up one above the other,this one is way out. __________________ QUI CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES???

9 June 2009, 05:27 AM	#4
djhiram Banned Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Hiram Location: Miami, FL Watch: 16600 Sea Dweller Posts: 1,233	Submariner dial with a GMT bezel insert?

9 June 2009, 05:32 AM	#6
haney "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: norway Posts: 7	so its probably a fake??

9 June 2009, 05:36 AM	#8
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	At the very least, the bezel is fake. That alone is enough to raise red flags.

9 June 2009, 05:40 AM	#9
haney "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: norway Posts: 7	how can u tell that the bezel is fake? just curious:-)

9 June 2009, 05:45 AM	#10
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	Pepsi bezels were only made for GMT's with the 24 hour markings. Subs only have come in all black or green for the LV.

9 June 2009, 06:29 AM	#13
haney "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: norway Posts: 7	someone here who knows a good place to buy used and REAL rolex? someplace on the internet?

9 June 2009, 05:48 AM	#19
haney "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: norway Posts: 7	ok. i really wanted that rolex, so im not happy it is a fake:-( It is a small aftermarket for rolex in norway, so i cant choose among watches

9 June 2009, 05:55 AM	#21
haney "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: norway Posts: 7	thank u very much for help:-) if it is a fake, it seems to be a good on then(if u can call a fake "good one") i hoped there where things on the pics that could make u pretty sure if it was fake or real, but i understand the problems with doing that:-)

9 June 2009, 05:57 AM	#22
motomc1 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,848	First thing I noticed were the incorrect end pieces. No need to look... any further. IMHO

9 June 2009, 05:59 AM	#23
haney "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: norway Posts: 7	please explain:-)

9 June 2009, 06:15 AM	#24
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Run like your a$$ was at the end of this flame -->

9 June 2009, 06:23 AM	#25
motomc1 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,848	Not quite sure what you want me to explain. The end links are not correct. nt nt

9 June 2009, 07:22 AM	#26
sexner "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: 4Q Location: Nowhere near you Watch: 169622, 124060 Posts: 2,014	The shoulders on the case protecting the crown look wrong too. I would not buy from anyplace other than an AD. __________________ One should endeavor to do what is right not what is established.

9 June 2009, 09:09 AM	#27
jdrolltide3838 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: J.D. Location: Roll Tide, AL Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 695	What a joke

9 June 2009, 01:56 PM	#28
springer 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,483	This watch is 100% fake based on the photos and has all the attributes of the fake GMT/Sub. The band is fake, the dial is a fake (maxi dial) the insert is fake and the crown is fake. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

9 June 2009, 03:38 PM	#29
Z-Sub 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	Enough said, even I can tell it's not real __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

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