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jeje88 · 8 January 2022, 09:21 PM

Hello friends!

I have a question that can be considered very strange but will ask it anyway as I wonder a LOT about it.

Which of the following Patek Philippe Nautilus models do you think has the best value if you compare the retail price and the average sales price in the secondary market. I am mainly curious to know the increase in value in currency and not percentage:
- 5711R, rose with link
- 5712R, rose with leather
- 5989R, rose with link
- 5990R, rose with link
- 5712, full steel with link
- 5726, full steel with link
- 5990, full steel with link

azizu · 8 January 2022, 09:32 PM

i haven't checked the market lately, but based on general sense:
5712R on leather strap
5726 on leather steap
anything on fell metal is high (not to say that it won't even go higher)
5990 rose
5990 steel
5980 rose
you can forget about this three references

ChrisMy · 8 January 2022, 10:22 PM

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RolexSimon · 13 December 2024, 08:35 PM

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On the rubber/neoprene strap, this is the most comfortable Nautilus I've ever owned. I got it for a steal from EWC in Boston then sold it to pay for an FPJ (big mistake). I now have the 5726 with a white dial and SS bracelet but it's just not as flexible to wear as the neoprene strap. Amazing in white and i just want PP to release the 5726 in white dial and leather / neoprene - my perfect combo!!

Henry.hoe · 10 January 2022, 12:01 AM

U can’t go wrong with the stainless steel 5712

Daytonaman799 · 10 January 2022, 01:59 AM

I think the 5726

7sins · 10 January 2022, 06:04 AM

While not on the list, personally I think the discontinued, first inhouse auto chrono, 5980 has not appreciated to the extent the other nautilus have, or at least not at the same rate. Short of the 5740 it is my personal favorite.

cascavel · 10 January 2022, 11:05 PM

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While not on the list, personally I think the discontinued, first inhouse auto chrono, 5980 has not appreciated to the extent the other nautilus have, or at least not at the same rate. Short of the 5740 it is my personal favorite.

Can you believe the 5980/1a is selling for less than the 5968 and is on a par with the 5711/1a? Also, as mentioned, the 3710/1a, although more of an acquired taste.

7sins · 11 January 2022, 10:41 AM

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Can you believe the 5980/1a is selling for less than the 5968 and is on a par with the 5711/1a? Also, as mentioned, the 3710/1a, although more of an acquired taste.

I can't! Wonder how long that happens before the gap closes?

kohuti02 · 12 January 2022, 09:27 PM

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7sins · 17 January 2022, 03:58 PM

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It's true. 6-7 years ago, it sold for a slight premium compared to its Nautilus peers.Attachment 1266645

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Absolutely gorgeous, wish I kept mine.

Econdon · 10 December 2024, 11:43 AM

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I can't! Wonder how long that happens before the gap closes?

I agree 5980's do seem slept on in this market for some reason compared to other sports PPs.

Steel 5980's seem to go for the same price as some steel 5711's and while the 5711 wears better imo (slimmer and less bulky) the added flyback chronograph function seems underappreciated on the 5980. Both steel variants of the 5711 and 5980 are discontinued and some dial variants on the 5980 (black) are said to be rare so that shouldn't be a factor.

FrançoisCzapek · 15 December 2024, 03:43 AM

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I agree 5980's do seem slept on in this market for some reason compared to other sports PPs.

Steel 5980's seem to go for the same price as some steel 5711's

5980/1A does not have a flyback chrono, that's the 5990.

Not sure why they remain undervalued. Likely reason is they are perceived as 50% thicker than the 5711, but on wrist, they are not that much thicker, especially to people used to wearing a chronograph.

HMHM · 10 January 2022, 07:43 AM

5726!

Blue dial? Checked
Complication which is usable daily? Checked
Relatively reasonable price? Checked
Wrist presence? Checked

Only the 5740 is more special in terms of complication and feel but the price is almost triple a 5726.

pav333hp · 10 January 2022, 02:35 PM

5712/1A (steel) - really thin and amazing wrist presence, absolutely mesmerizing dial, and interesting complications.

5990 (RG or steel) - ultimate Nautilus imho.

Moondoggy · 10 January 2022, 04:23 PM

3710/1a for me

thephillywatches · 13 January 2022, 01:27 AM

I think the best value for sure is the 5712 Leather strap

Deep-House · 13 January 2022, 02:37 PM

5712R and 5980R on leather.

pvinpvin · 17 January 2022, 03:24 PM

5726a imho

illiguy · 17 January 2022, 09:02 PM

3800

RyanO · 9 December 2024, 01:09 PM

3800

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RolexSimon · 13 December 2024, 08:36 PM

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Anything in a white dial is amazing value given the improvement in legibility!!

RyanO · 13 December 2024, 11:51 PM

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Anything in a white dial is amazing value given the improvement in legibility!!

Agreed I personally find the white dial more interesting and crisp overall.

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russ86 · 10 December 2024, 01:08 PM

5712g

sampelligrino · 10 December 2024, 01:16 PM

Best "value" from *retail price* as far as price? 5740g for me, but price should only come secondary to truly getting what tugs at your heartstrings at this price level IMO

TunaTuna · 12 December 2024, 02:31 PM

Best value Nautilus is the 5726a on the strap, hands down. Ands its a beautiful watch with a great complication

DK7 · 12 December 2024, 05:59 PM

5712/1r

brandrea · 13 December 2024, 08:36 PM

The one you can buy from your AD

macplee · 14 December 2024, 04:09 AM

the 7118 is no ladies watch - it is steel nautilus in mid size like the original. Fits well for most. both white and blue dial

MangoTree1 · 14 December 2024, 10:35 PM

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the 7118 is no ladies watch - it is steel nautilus in mid size like the original. Fits well for most. both white and blue dial

https://www.patek.com/de/kollektion/...us/7118-1A-001

"Ladies automatic Nautilus"

8 January 2022, 09:21 PM	#1
jeje88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Central Europe Posts: 53	Best valued Nautilus Hello friends! I have a question that can be considered very strange but will ask it anyway as I wonder a LOT about it. Which of the following Patek Philippe Nautilus models do you think has the best value if you compare the retail price and the average sales price in the secondary market. I am mainly curious to know the increase in value in currency and not percentage: - 5711R, rose with link - 5712R, rose with leather - 5989R, rose with link - 5990R, rose with link - 5712, full steel with link - 5726, full steel with link - 5990, full steel with link

8 January 2022, 09:32 PM	#2
azizu "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Saudi Arabia Watch: Patek 3700/11AJ Posts: 717	i haven't checked the market lately, but based on general sense: 5712R on leather strap 5726 on leather steap anything on fell metal is high (not to say that it won't even go higher) 5990 rose 5990 steel 5980 rose you can forget about this three references __________________ Current Collection: PP 3700/11AJ, PP 5170G, PP 5320G, PP 5712/1A, APRO 15500, Rolex 116234, Rolex GMT Master2 BLNR, Omega SMP, Baume & Mercier M0A10280

10 January 2022, 06:04 AM	#7
7sins "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: B. Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 3,655	While not on the list, personally I think the discontinued, first inhouse auto chrono, 5980 has not appreciated to the extent the other nautilus have, or at least not at the same rate. Short of the 5740 it is my personal favorite. __________________ Richard Mille RG RM030 \|\| Richard Mille RM72ti \|\| AP 26240 50TH Green Royal Oak Chrono \|\| AP Royal Oak Off Shore Gulf Blue 26238 \|\| AP Royal Oak Blue JUMBO SS 15202ST \|\| AP ROO Diver Green 15720ST \|\| ♕ Rolex Platinum Daytona Diamond 116506 \|\| Cartier Santos

12 January 2022, 09:27 PM	#10
kohuti02 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: East Coast, US Watch: 5130P Posts: 127	5980A enjoying a wrist here It's true. 6-7 years ago, it sold for a slight premium compared to its Nautilus peers.

8 January 2022, 10:22 PM	#3
ChrisMy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Chris Location: Earth Watch: Patek & Rolex Posts: 146	this ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 January 2022, 12:01 AM	#5
Henry.hoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Singapore Posts: 46	U can’t go wrong with the stainless steel 5712

10 January 2022, 01:59 AM	#6
Daytonaman799 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC/South Fl Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 3,711	I think the 5726

10 January 2022, 07:43 AM	#14
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,507	5726! Blue dial? Checked Complication which is usable daily? Checked Relatively reasonable price? Checked Wrist presence? Checked Only the 5740 is more special in terms of complication and feel but the price is almost triple a 5726.

10 January 2022, 02:35 PM	#15
pav333hp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 584	5712/1A (steel) - really thin and amazing wrist presence, absolutely mesmerizing dial, and interesting complications. 5990 (RG or steel) - ultimate Nautilus imho.

10 January 2022, 04:23 PM	#16
Moondoggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Knackers Location: NI/Aust/USA Watch: and wait Posts: 3,330	3710/1a for me

13 January 2022, 01:27 AM	#17
thephillywatches 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Philly/NYC Posts: 52	I think the best value for sure is the 5712 Leather strap

13 January 2022, 02:37 PM	#18
Deep-House "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Jacob Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,984	5712R and 5980R on leather.

17 January 2022, 03:24 PM	#19
pvinpvin "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Japan Posts: 30	5726a imho

17 January 2022, 09:02 PM	#20
illiguy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UTC/GMT -5 Posts: 3,668	3800

9 December 2024, 01:09 PM	#21
RyanO 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Ryan Location: DMV Watch: LVc Posts: 2,149	3800 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 December 2024, 01:08 PM	#24
russ86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Ross C. Location: Miami, FL. Posts: 966	5712g

10 December 2024, 01:16 PM	#25
sampelligrino "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,207	Best "value" from retail price as far as price? 5740g for me, but price should only come secondary to truly getting what tugs at your heartstrings at this price level IMO

12 December 2024, 02:31 PM	#26
TunaTuna 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Merica Posts: 1,358	Best value Nautilus is the 5726a on the strap, hands down. Ands its a beautiful watch with a great complication

12 December 2024, 05:59 PM	#27
DK7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Europe Posts: 346	5712/1r

13 December 2024, 08:36 PM	#28
brandrea 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,611	The one you can buy from your AD

14 December 2024, 04:09 AM	#29
macplee "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: los angeles Posts: 130	the 7118 is no ladies watch - it is steel nautilus in mid size like the original. Fits well for most. both white and blue dial

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