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Old 22 April 2022, 04:33 PM   #1
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what are my options

Hello everyone!
About a month ago, I had no intention of buying a watch. But a couple of life events later, I've decided to carpe the diem, and started to look into Rolex.
I spent some time doing some online research, and settled for the stainless steel daytona with black dials (I don't have facebook or instagram and don't follow the trends I just love the engineering behind the movement).

Fast forward to today, I've been to 5 countries, visited a dozen of store and it's been a huge disappointment, I'm headed back home empty handed. My local AD told me they receive about 5 pieces a month, but in the meantime, they add 50 folks to the waitlist.

So the question here is, what are my options?
- can I enroll on a waitlist with an out of state AD? Do I need to be present?
- how about AD from different countries? Once available, can I buy over the phone and have them ship it?
- I don't have anything else to purchase at the moment (maybe more watches in the future), so I'm not sure how to build a relationship with an AD
- 2nd hand is out of the question
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Old 22 April 2022, 04:43 PM   #2
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If second hand is out of question then there is no option for you to get a steel daytona now
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Old 27 April 2022, 06:59 AM   #3
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If second hand is out of question then there is no option for you to get a steel daytona now
There's plenty of new, NOT secondhand, available at market price.
Beats the heck out of spending tens of thousands traveling to multiple countries!
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Old 22 April 2022, 04:44 PM   #4
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Hello everyone!
About a month ago, I had no intention of buying a watch. But a couple of life events later, I've decided to carpe the diem, and started to look into Rolex.
I spent some time doing some online research, and settled for the stainless steel daytona with black dials (I don't have facebook or instagram and don't follow the trends I just love the engineering behind the movement).

Fast forward to today, I've been to 5 countries, visited a dozen of store and it's been a huge disappointment, I'm headed back home empty handed. My local AD told me they receive about 5 pieces a month, but in the meantime, they add 50 folks to the waitlist.

So the question here is, what are my options?
- can I enroll on a waitlist with an out of state AD? Do I need to be present?
- how about AD from different countries? Once available, can I buy over the phone and have them ship it?
- I don't have anything else to purchase at the moment (maybe more watches in the future), so I'm not sure how to build a relationship with an AD
- 2nd hand is out of the question
It’s just the market for now. Best is to establish a relationship with your local AD. Many ADs out of state won’t sell to non-locals to cut down on people they don’t know flipping watches.

As for a black ceramic Daytona with no purchase history probably impossible to get. I’ve been waiting for one for 5 years. Is there any other models you’d like? You picked the most in demand and absolute hardest to get out of the entire catalog. Reminds me of this article.

https://www.gq.com/story/new-rolex-c...6-waitlist/amp

Demand exponentially increased since the article came out and the impossible got even got more impossible if that makes any sense.
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Old 22 April 2022, 05:06 PM   #5
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I’ve been waiting for one for 5 years.
oh darn 5y
how is it working did you lock down a price?
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Old 22 April 2022, 07:18 PM   #6
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oh darn 5y
how is it working did you lock down a price?
There is no such thing as “lock down a price” when waiting for a Rolex. The prices went up this year, and even folks who had a deposit down for a particular reference had to pay the new, higher, price when they picked up their new watch.
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Old 23 April 2022, 02:29 AM   #7
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oh darn 5y
how is it working did you lock down a price?
I decided to move up to a gold oysterflex Daytona. Still really hard to get but easier then a ceramic. I’ve been offered two different oysterflex Daytona’s (and turned them down) while waiting for the one I requested so hopefully it will come eventually.

If not I agree with the Speedmaster recommendations. There are tons of models and colors and I love mine. Ignoring the hype it is just as beautiful as a ceramic Daytona.
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Old 23 April 2022, 02:51 AM   #8
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I decided to move up to a gold oysterflex Daytona. Still really hard to get but easier then a ceramic. I’ve been offered two different oysterflex Daytona’s (and turned them down) while waiting for the one I requested so hopefully it will come eventually.

If not I agree with the Speedmaster recommendations. There are tons of models and colors and I love mine. Ignoring the hype it is just as beautiful as a ceramic Daytona.
Out of curiosity, which were you offered and which are you waiting for?
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Old 23 April 2022, 05:29 AM   #9
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Out of curiosity, which were you offered and which are you waiting for?
I don't want to jinx it. I'll let you guys know when it finally happens. My AD has been in touch recently so I'm keeping my fingers crossed it's soon...
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Old 22 April 2022, 05:11 PM   #10
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Visit your local ad regularly, without being annoying, and hope for the best. For the meantime, get yourself the new Speedmaster Professional because it’s going to be a long wait for the Daytona imo. You’ll be able to sell the Speedy fairly easily; if one day you do get the call and don’t want to keep two black dial Chronographs. Another option is the Tudor Chrono, but it doesn’t have the same iconic status as the Speedmaster and Daytona
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Old 22 April 2022, 05:25 PM   #11
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If you specifically want that reference and you want it new from an AD, you would most likely need to first strongly establish yourself as a customer of that AD before a request would even be taken very seriously.
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Old 22 April 2022, 05:29 PM   #12
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carpe the diem, go grey. They are plenty available for the right price.
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Old 22 April 2022, 05:49 PM   #13
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There are millions of people wanting to buy the same watch from an AD for MSRP.
All of them hoping for a quick 20K profit
No AD in the world is going to sell you one, forget about it.
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Old 22 April 2022, 06:02 PM   #14
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There are millions of people wanting to buy the same watch from an AD for MSRP.
All of them hoping for a quick 20K profit
No AD in the world is going to sell you one, forget about it.
Although harsh this is 100% accurate.
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Old 22 April 2022, 05:56 PM   #15
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you are lucky man, the watch market is in a trend of correction right now! be patient and wait 2, 3 more months until the price settled down. I think around $32k for a used 2020 black dial ss daytona is good to buy. you are already too late to get into the AD game, go grey.
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Old 22 April 2022, 06:39 PM   #16
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Grey dealers have unworn stock, technically preowned but you get a watch in new condition.
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Old 22 April 2022, 07:02 PM   #17
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No chance from AD given your status. Absolutely no reason to sell you one.

Options

1) Grey Market

2) Buy a different chronograph. This shouldn’t be an issue as you are admittedly not influenced by anything other than the movement engineering. There are plenty of more attainable chronos with interesting engineering.

3) Move on from watches altogether. It’s a really tough time to enter the hobby, especially if you have oneitis.
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Old 22 April 2022, 07:14 PM   #18
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‘Settled’ for a black dial Daytona haha
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Old 22 April 2022, 07:18 PM   #19
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Hello everyone!
About a month ago, I had no intention of buying a watch. But a couple of life events later, I've decided to carpe the diem, and started to look into Rolex.
I spent some time doing some online research, and settled for the stainless steel daytona with black dials (I don't have facebook or instagram and don't follow the trends I just love the engineering behind the movement).

Fast forward to today, I've been to 5 countries, visited a dozen of store and it's been a huge disappointment, I'm headed back home empty handed. My local AD told me they receive about 5 pieces a month, but in the meantime, they add 50 folks to the waitlist.

So the question here is, what are my options?
- can I enroll on a waitlist with an out of state AD? Do I need to be present?
- how about AD from different countries? Once available, can I buy over the phone and have them ship it?
- I don't have anything else to purchase at the moment (maybe more watches in the future), so I'm not sure how to build a relationship with an AD
- 2nd hand is out of the question
Your AD has the watch, it’s a matter of Will they sell to you. The options are:

1) spend a lot so they have to give to you
2) wait it out and be likable and spend some over time
3) go grey

That’s the cold reality.
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You have two options:

1. Find a new watch to want.
2. Stump up for it on the grey market.

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Old 22 April 2022, 08:37 PM   #21
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Old 22 April 2022, 08:38 PM   #22
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Old 22 April 2022, 08:31 PM   #23
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Welcome to the watch world, it’s fickle so hang with is, things change every couple years.
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Old 22 April 2022, 08:32 PM   #24
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Old 22 April 2022, 09:59 PM   #26
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Omega Speedmaster
It ain't a Rolex, but many people think that it's actually a better watch, much cheaper and you can actually obtain it.

I've had both, Daytona and Speedmaster. The other advantage of the Omega rarely mentioned, is that you can actually tell what the time is. Unlike the Rolex, which has difficult-to-see hands.
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or Zenith chrono.



Sorry noobs (although I'm thinking this is a troll post -- "I dont have instagram or social media to follow trends..." How would you know about trends then)

It's less than unlikely you get the Daytona with no purchase history unless you know the owner of an AD. Even then you would probably wait a year or two.
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Old 22 April 2022, 09:17 PM   #28
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Zenith Chronomaster, if all you're after an impressive movement, and it's similar looking to a Daytona. You trying to get a Daytona at retail is just a waste of everyone's time.
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Old 22 April 2022, 09:34 PM   #29
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If it has to be the Daytona-C then it will be Grey Market for you. If you can appreciate other watches that are just as cool and functional but not a Daytona-C then check out the Omega Speedmaster or the Tudor Chronos. I also like the new Breitling Navitimers. I own both the black and white dial Daytona-C's and short of the amazing hype and flexing, I prefer my Speedmaster's and Tudor Chrono's. Good luck.
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So the question here is, what are my options?
- can I enroll on a waitlist with an out of state AD? Do I need to be present?
- how about AD from different countries? Once available, can I buy over the phone and have them ship it?
- I don't have anything else to purchase at the moment (maybe more watches in the future), so I'm not sure how to build a relationship with an AD
- 2nd hand is out of the question
Look at more watches, more brands, more complications.

Forget trying to pander to an AD. You don't have the money, time or history.

Why do you want a Daytona? Do you need a chronograph? Do you simply like the way it looks? Do you need a date on your watch?

Good luck.
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