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rolexsubdate · 3 July 2009, 12:39 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SUBMARINER...ayphotohosting

Orchi · 3 July 2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SUBMARINER...ayphotohosting

Err buddy RSD...which are the areas of the watch in particular...
giving rise to your doubts about the watch...?

DRAWTOOL · 3 July 2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orchi

Err buddy RSD...which are the areas of the watch in particular...
giving rise to your doubts about the watch...?

I'm curious as well, the watch looks ok to me but what do I know?

rolexsubdate · 3 July 2009, 02:29 AM

ok folks, here we go:

The biggest biggest clue: Look at the hour markers and compare to the original one and you will see it very clearly this is a fake ....

Also, look at the line that says "1000ft = 300m"

Look at the last two zeros in "1000" and the last one zero in "300"... you will notice that they are a little squished .....

Also, what does "T Swiss T" mean at the bottom?
Also, check out the carving of the serial #s between the lugs ... it is so so obvious ... in a real rolex, the serial number is very very hard to photograph and definitely is not blk .....

But the biggest one is the hour markers .....

Don't tell me guy that you were gonna fall for it!!

meloncap78 · 3 July 2009, 02:36 AM

That watch looks authentic to my eye. Those are the "nipple" hour markers. Secondly, it looks like he did a rub to show the SN, and 3rd, the 0's are not scrunched it is the angle of the picture creating an illusion.

sexner · 3 July 2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by meloncap78

That watch looks authentic to my eye. Those are the "nipple" hour markers. Secondly, it looks like he did a rub to show the SN, and 3rd, the 0's are not scrunched it is the angle of the picture creating an illusion.

Looks good to my untrained eye.

Mosco · 3 July 2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

ok folks, here we go:

The biggest biggest clue: Look at the hour markers and compare to the original one and you will see it very clearly this is a fake ....

Also, look at the line that says "1000ft = 300m"

Look at the last two zeros in "1000" and the last one zero in "300"... you will notice that they are a little squished .....

Also, what does "T Swiss T" mean at the bottom?
Also, check out the carving of the serial #s between the lugs ... it is so so obvious ... in a real rolex, the serial number is very very hard to photograph and definitely is not blk .....

But the biggest one is the hour markers .....

Don't tell me guy that you were gonna fall for it!!

Hey RSD!

The watch is fine, 100% authentic.

The markers are, as mentioned before, 'Nipple' style

The 0's just appear squished, IMO it is just the angle of the pic

The 'T Swiss T' is a designation for tritium on the dial

The serial number is cut into the case, thus creating a crevice where dirt/dust particles tend to accumulate, hence it appears black. But I never had trouble photographing the serial unless it is a true vintage and engraving has wore off

So I guess I am falling for it!

As the watch is 100% authentic. Hope this helps!

MattG · 3 July 2009, 02:50 AM

Does'nt the "gold" look tarnished around the serial numbers? I don't own a gold watch but I'd be surprised if the 18k gold gets discolored like that. Just my initial thoughts.

rolexsubdate · 3 July 2009, 03:09 AM

I have never ever heard of or seen NIPPLE markers on a dial .... I have seen vintage subs all the way to modern subs ... never ever have I seen hour markers like these .... if I am wrong, then I appologize . But please point me to some legit wtaches with these kind of hour markers....

thanks

s1m0n · 3 July 2009, 03:24 AM

Hi RSD,

Google "Rolex nipple dial" you will quit a few/

Simon

Mosco · 3 July 2009, 03:34 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-18...lenotsupported

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Mens-18k-G...lenotsupported

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1197661

mpkRolex · 3 July 2009, 04:11 AM

I concur with Greg.

and the flat "S" in submariner is just like mine :)

Orchi · 3 July 2009, 05:12 AM

Err buddies...you guys are right...that's a very hard to find...TRANSITIONAL
Rolex 16800 Submariner in Solid 18K Gold Case...
hence the "Ref 16800/8" is sometimes referred...
as not to be confused with its RARER predecessor Rolex Ref 1680/8 Submariner.

This Ref 16808 Transitional Sub has Cal. 3035 movement with QuickSet Date feature...Gloss Tritium Nipple Surround Markers(Nipple Dial)...n Sapphire Crystal.

The other siblings to this Ref 16808 18K Gold Transitional Rolex Submariner are...

Ref 16803 Sub - 2 Tone 18K Gold/SS Case...
Ref 16800 Sub - SS Case...

Rebel · 3 July 2009, 05:51 AM

So then, it doesn't come with batteries?

idk01 · 3 July 2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebel

So then, it doesn't come with batteries?

Not this time

unless you use a battery operated winder

rolexsubdate · 3 July 2009, 11:54 PM

Boy, was I wrong then .... I have never seen this type of dial before. John Brozeks book, the rolex report, doesn't even mention it ....well my apologies for rushing to judgement and I hope the seller won't report me for writing him a nasty email on ebay!

Mosco · 3 July 2009, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

Boy, was I wrong then .... I have never seen this type of dial before. John Brozeks book, the rolex report, doesn't even mention it ....well my apologies for rushing to judgement and I hope the seller won't report me for writing him a nasty email on ebay!

RSD, you did that?!

Poor guy... first labeled a 'scumbag', then received a nasty emai, probably like 'wtf?!'

Never seen such an adverse reaction to nipples!

idk01 · 4 July 2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

RSD, you did that?!

Poor guy... first labeled a 'scumbag', then received a nasty emai, probably like 'wtf?!'

Never seen such an adverse reaction to nipples!

Thats what she said!!!

springer · 4 July 2009, 08:57 AM

I missed this one. Wow, a 100% genuine- fake watch. As they have noted, it does appear 100% genuine from the photographs.

rolexsubdate · 5 July 2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

I missed this one. Wow, a 100% genuine- fake watch. As they have noted, it does appear 100% genuine from the photographs.

Springer,
what makes you think it is a fake?

springer · 5 July 2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

Springer,
what makes you think it is a fake?

I believe you called it fake, others called it genuine, therefore I called it a genuine fake...but it can't be both. (The verbiage "genuine fake" was just a play on words.) As I previously stated, it appears genuine by all intent and purposes - and by the photos too.

LocoNBroko · 5 July 2009, 08:51 AM

WOW, you need to lay off the caffeine or something... Calling a guy a scum bag without the knowledge to back it up is pretty ridiculous.

3 July 2009, 12:39 AM	#1
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	checkout this scumbag trying to sell a fake SUB! http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-SUBMARINER...ayphotohosting

3 July 2009, 03:24 AM	#10
s1m0n "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Simon Location: Israel Posts: 134	Hi RSD, Google "Rolex nipple dial" you will quit a few/ Simon __________________

3 July 2009, 03:34 AM	#11
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	few other Nipples (he he he) http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-18...lenotsupported http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Mens-18k-G...lenotsupported http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=1197661 __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

3 July 2009, 04:11 AM	#12
mpkRolex 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Watch: Pepsi Posts: 2,298	I concur with Greg. and the flat "S" in submariner is just like mine :) __________________ Rest in peace JJ! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...light=JJ+irani "Rolex is highly addictive. Please shop responsibly"

3 July 2009, 05:51 AM	#14
Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Dr Mark R Nail Location: New Albany Watch: Tudor Sub 75090 Posts: 8,327	So then, it doesn't come with batteries? __________________ ------------------------------- Member of the Nylon Nation

3 July 2009, 02:29 AM	#4
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	ok folks, here we go: The biggest biggest clue: Look at the hour markers and compare to the original one and you will see it very clearly this is a fake .... Also, look at the line that says "1000ft = 300m" Look at the last two zeros in "1000" and the last one zero in "300"... you will notice that they are a little squished ..... Also, what does "T Swiss T" mean at the bottom? Also, check out the carving of the serial #s between the lugs ... it is so so obvious ... in a real rolex, the serial number is very very hard to photograph and definitely is not blk ..... But the biggest one is the hour markers ..... Don't tell me guy that you were gonna fall for it!!

3 July 2009, 02:36 AM	#5
meloncap78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Joshua Location: Syracuse, NY Watch: LV C Posts: 2,204	That watch looks authentic to my eye. Those are the "nipple" hour markers. Secondly, it looks like he did a rub to show the SN, and 3rd, the 0's are not scrunched it is the angle of the picture creating an illusion.

3 July 2009, 02:50 AM	#8
MattG Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Northern CA Watch: Sub, ExpII, MIL-GV Posts: 45	Does'nt the "gold" look tarnished around the serial numbers? I don't own a gold watch but I'd be surprised if the 18k gold gets discolored like that. Just my initial thoughts.

3 July 2009, 03:09 AM	#9
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	I have never ever heard of or seen NIPPLE markers on a dial .... I have seen vintage subs all the way to modern subs ... never ever have I seen hour markers like these .... if I am wrong, then I appologize . But please point me to some legit wtaches with these kind of hour markers.... thanks

3 July 2009, 05:12 AM	#13
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddies...you guys are right...that's a very hard to find...TRANSITIONAL Rolex 16800 Submariner in Solid 18K Gold Case... hence the "Ref 16800/8" is sometimes referred... as not to be confused with its RARER predecessor Rolex Ref 1680/8 Submariner. This Ref 16808 Transitional Sub has Cal. 3035 movement with QuickSet Date feature...Gloss Tritium Nipple Surround Markers(Nipple Dial)...n Sapphire Crystal. The other siblings to this Ref 16808 18K Gold Transitional Rolex Submariner are... Ref 16803 Sub - 2 Tone 18K Gold/SS Case... Ref 16800 Sub - SS Case...

3 July 2009, 11:54 PM	#16
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	Boy, was I wrong then .... I have never seen this type of dial before. John Brozeks book, the rolex report, doesn't even mention it ....well my apologies for rushing to judgement and I hope the seller won't report me for writing him a nasty email on ebay!

4 July 2009, 08:57 AM	#19
springer 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,483	I missed this one. Wow, a 100% genuine- fake watch. As they have noted, it does appear 100% genuine from the photographs. Attached Images __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

5 July 2009, 08:51 AM	#22
LocoNBroko Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Watch: GMTIIcSUBUBFDSDDS Posts: 334	WOW, you need to lay off the caffeine or something... Calling a guy a scum bag without the knowledge to back it up is pretty ridiculous.

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