114060 owner now has to admit - the news Subs are superior

[mgsooner]

Had a chance to visit my local AD today for the first time since they got their wonderful “display models.” Tried on the new date Sub. Wears a lot better than my 114060 does. Wider bracelet didn’t bother me at all, and didn’t really find there to be a huge difference in the clasp. Also tried on the black/blue GMT on oyster and really liked it. So much so I registered my interest for one. If my guy comes through for me I’ll probably just move the 114060 out. Was very excited to get it back in 2019 but if I’m being honest with myself I like the fit of the GMTs (and new Subs) much better. Anyway, just one goof’s opinion.

[Alpino]

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You mean "superior" in price ?

[the dark knight]

I agree the newer Sub wears slightly better, but the last gen's supercase's fat lugs are growing on me, no pun intended. One of those charms that comes with a discontinued watch I guess.

Basically the mid 2000s to the mid 2010s was the heyday of monster sized watches, and this gen was obviously Rolex's attempt to capitalize on that trend without reworking the Sub too much.

I'm totally speculating here of course, but I think the large watch trend was a fad that won't come back in a meaningful way in my lifetime. As such I kinda like your Sub as representing that era of watches. It's already more interesting to me from a visual standpoint than the 5 digits that preceded it and the new Sub. But again, I'm probably in the minority.

[HideMyWalletPlease]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

I agree the newer Sub wears slightly better, but the last gen's supercase's fat lugs are growing on me, no pun intended. One of those charms that comes with a discontinued watch I guess.

Basically the mid 2000s to the mid 2010s was the heyday of monster sized watches, and this gen was obviously Rolex's attempt to capitalize on that trend without reworking the Sub too much.

I'm totally speculating here of course, but I think the large watch trend was a fad that won't come back in a meaningful way in my lifetime. As such I kinda like your Sub as representing that era of watches. It's already more interesting to me from a visual standpoint than the 5 digits that preceded it and the new Sub. But again, I'm probably in the minority.

I also sort of appreciate the brick on a skinny bracelet look of the previous generation. However, I can understand why Rolex changed it and why someone would prefer the new one, especially if it was an only watch or one that got the most wrist time.

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by HideMyWalletPlease

I also sort of appreciate the brick on a skinny bracelet look of the previous generation. However, I can understand why Rolex changed it and why someone would prefer the new one, especially if it was an only watch or one that got the most wrist time.

Oh yea, absolutely. I think objectively the newer ones look better. I just think the last gen has more "charm", for lack of a better word.

If my only or primary watch, I'd rather have the current gen. But if part of even a small collection that features at least 2 diver watches, I'd dare say I'd like to have the last gen as it already stands out a bit and feels a tad more interesting. But again, that's just me.

[goldboy]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

I agree the newer Sub wears slightly better, but the last gen's supercase's fat lugs are growing on me, no pun intended. One of those charms that comes with a discontinued watch I guess.

Basically the mid 2000s to the mid 2010s was the heyday of monster sized watches, and this gen was obviously Rolex's attempt to capitalize on that trend without reworking the Sub too much.

I'm totally speculating here of course, but I think the large watch trend was a fad that won't come back in a meaningful way in my lifetime. As such I kinda like your Sub as representing that era of watches. It's already more interesting to me from a visual standpoint than the 5 digits that preceded it and the new Sub. But again, I'm probably in the minority.

Absolutely nailed ittttt here.

It’s the classic mark of a Rolex era. People might be complaining about the proportions now because it’s such a recent model but give it some time, there will be people seeking out this model for its quirky fat lugs in the future.

[enjoythemusic]

Cool, and the black/blue GMT with Oyster rocks!

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Cool, and the black/blue GMT with Oyster rocks!

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I am still loving your Dad's watch Steven. He wears it well. It just looks good on his wrist.

[herefortheattachment]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Cool, and the black/blue GMT with Oyster rocks!

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It’s so nice seeing the new lefty GMT being worn on the right wrist. Feels like such a waste seeing a right-handed owner wearing it on their left hand, which seems to be the case in most photos I’ve seen!

[amanbra]

I do agree the new sub's proportions are better. My 126613LN fell foul of the 32xx issue. If I were you I'd stick with the bulletproof 114060.

[mgsooner]

Originally Posted by amanbra

I do agree the new sub's proportions are better. My 126613LN fell foul of the 32xx issue. If I were you I'd stick with the bulletproof 114060.

This is definitely a consideration. I’ve been in no hurry to move on from my 31xx series movements.

[Crazy Lugs]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

This is definitely a consideration. I’ve been in no hurry to move on from my 31xx series movements.

This!

Crying shame they cut costs and screwed up the 32-series movements. My 3130 has been insanely accurate from day one and remains so nearly five years later.

[zabazja]

Originally Posted by Crazy Lugs

This!

Crying shame they cut costs and screwed up the 32-series movements. My 3130 has been insanely accurate from day one and remains so nearly five years later.

I have 6 watches with the new movement. Only had a problem with my Pepsi, something with the date wheel, solved under guaranty. Now all of them are running writhing cosc spec.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by zabazja

I have 6 watches with the new movement. Only had a problem with my Pepsi, something with the date wheel, solved under guaranty. Now all of them are running writhing cosc spec.

When they are new they work fine, question is for how long they keep specs

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by zabazja

I have 6 watches with the new movement. Only had a problem with my Pepsi, something with the date wheel, solved under guaranty. Now all of them are running writhing cosc spec.

yeah what Joli said,

all my 32xx movements were ridiculous good timekeepers until the curse hit.........................

how old are yours? maybe you are super lucky.

[John1083]

Originally Posted by zabazja

I have 6 watches with the new movement. Only had a problem with my Pepsi, something with the date wheel, solved under guaranty. Now all of them are running writhing cosc spec.

This.

I’ll enjoy mine with the new movement that’s been great so far and ignore any internet induced issues.


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[Driver8]

Originally Posted by amanbra

If I were you I'd stick with the bulletproof 114060.

This ^ 100%

Also, while I certainly don't mind the 12 series aesthetically, I personally still prefer the look and dimensions of the 11's. But then I freely admit I'm a die hard 11 series / 31xx fan.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by amanbra

I do agree the new sub's proportions are better. My 126613LN fell foul of the 32xx issue. If I were you I'd stick with the bulletproof 114060.

I’m happy with my 114060 and my 14060M.

[SchiftyDMD]

Originally Posted by amanbra

I do agree the new sub's proportions are better. My 126613LN fell foul of the 32xx issue. If I were you I'd stick with the bulletproof 114060.

That’s my only knock on the current Sub - I have been bitten by the same issue - love everything else about it esthetically - still may want to add a no date to the collection some day - thinking of going with 14060 as I am not a fan of the fat case on skinny bracelet - also like the idea of the aluminum bezel on a “tool” watch - yes more likely to get scratched but also much cheaper to swap out of the scratches bother you


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[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

Had a chance to visit my local AD today for the first time since they got their wonderful “display models.” Tried on the new date Sub. Wears a lot better than my 114060 does. Wider bracelet didn’t bother me at all, and didn’t really find there to be a huge difference in the clasp. Also tried on the black/blue GMT on oyster and really liked it. So much so I registered my interest for one. If my guy comes through for me I’ll probably just move the 114060 out. Was very excited to get it back in 2019 but if I’m being honest with myself I like the fit of the GMTs (and new Subs) much better. Anyway, just one goof’s opinion.

Thanks for that report OP. Tried on a new Get a while back and agree they do feel great on the wrist. Was not able to try on a new sub. Former 114060 owner here and wondered how the new ones compared. Can't wait to try on on.

[mgsooner]

Oh, forgot to mention - I also tried on the new Explorer 36. Let me just say, there's absolutely no way I would forego my 214270 for the 36.

[Tools]

I agree with Alpino!!

I'm not ready to change-out any of my obsolete models for the "superior" new ones any time soon.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Tools

I agree with Alpino!!

I'm not ready to change-out any of my obsolete models for the "superior" new ones any time soon.

Have to agree Larry expect my own working tool 16600 SD is superior as it has survived many long years underwater a real working tool, and not like most of the pampered Rolex watches today. And now over 20 years old and still ticking strong, and would doubt in the real world is any of the modern day Rolex watches more superior that ones produced decades ago. Except now for a more superior price and mostly hard to get from ADs at retail, but greys have them where many bought today end up because Rolex watches are just £$€ objects.

[Kelvins13]

Originally Posted by Tools

I agree with Alpino!!

I'm not ready to change-out any of my obsolete models for the "superior" new ones any time soon.

Roger that.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

Oh, forgot to mention - I also tried on the new Explorer 36. Let me just say, there's absolutely no way I would forego my 214270 for the 36.

Ha! I'm still complaining that the 114060 and 214270 replaced the 14060M and 114270, respectively. Haven't even had time to complain much about the newest ones, yet.

[amh]

Agree, absolutely superior. If I didn't already have an SD43 I'd be looking for Sub

[LA_LEC]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

Oh, forgot to mention - I also tried on the new Explorer 36. Let me just say, there's absolutely no way I would forego my 214270 for the 36.

I fully agree with you on that.

[BlakeA]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

Oh, forgot to mention - I also tried on the new Explorer 36. Let me just say, there's absolutely no way I would forego my 214270 for the 36.

Hey Matt. Was that at Bruce Weber? I need to go try on the 36 Explorer.

[mgsooner]

Originally Posted by BlakeA

Hey Matt. Was that at Bruce Weber? I need to go try on the 36 Explorer.

It was. They didn’t have the steel on display but one of the sales staff was wearing the two-tone and let me try it on.

[BlakeA]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

It was. They didn’t have the steel on display but one of the sales staff was wearing the two-tone and let me try it on.

I need to stop in then and check it out. Thx.