Uk hot weather

[Nickn]

Why is every body panicking over the chance of one very hot day in the Uk next week
Schools are closing the government has issued warnings it’s all doom and gloom instead of hurrah summer has arrived
I have lived in LA and Miami and I managed to survive
I lived through the hot summer of 76
Lots of Brit look forward to holidays in countries with far high temperatures then are predicted for next Tuesday
What’s going on?

[Rebel]

It's very hot here in the South (USA). Note sure what it is up there. Just be careful and hydrate.

[AzPaul]

It's over 100 degrees all the time here.
Of course, where I'm from, we're tougher than most.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

It's over 100 degrees all the time here.
Of course, where I'm from, we're tougher than most.

Switch off your cooling and get back to me tough guy.



With the aircon on we were fine but there were a lot of emergency call outs mainly for the elderly who were not so fortunate.

[AzPaul]

Originally Posted by Andad

Switch off your cooling and get back to me tough guy.

I hear ya' brothah
My father was born here in '27 and I have no idea how those folks handled May-Sept back then. Know they slept outside a lot, but even at that . . . . . Guess they were made of sterner stuff.

[Malum]

It was 116 F here today . Worked in the yard and hung out in the pool . Typical summer day in the desert .

[airchitect]

95 with 80+% humidity… don’t even need to lick the stamp….


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[Cru Jones]

The answer is that LA and Miami are very different from London.

“Summer, from June to August, is not very warm, but in this season, the area of London is the warmest of the entire UK. In July and August, lows are around 14 °C (57 °F) and highs around 23/24 °C (73.5/75 °F).” (https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/england/london)

So, a forecasted high in London of 38 C (100 F) is 33% above average and quite extreme. Remember: London does not have massive air conditioning infrastructure.

It’s the equivalent of 115 F in Miami in July (33% above the average July high of 86.5 F). At least in Miami there is AC.

Or, to use the Tucson example above, which averages 100 F in July, it’s the equivalent of 133 F. Pretty extreme stuff.

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

The answer is that LA and Miami are very different from London.

“Summer, from June to August, is not very warm, but in this season, the area of London is the warmest of the entire UK. In July and August, lows are around 14 °C (57 °F) and highs around 23/24 °C (73.5/75 °F).” (https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/england/london)

So, a forecasted high in London of 38 C (100 F) is 33% above average and quite extreme. Remember: London does not have massive air conditioning infrastructure.

It’s the equivalent of 115 F in Miami in July (33% above the average July high of 86.5 F). At least in Miami there is AC.

Or, to use the Tucson example above, which averages 100 F in July, it’s the equivalent of 133 F. Pretty extreme stuff.

Excellent post. The hottest ever recorded in the UK is 38.7C (101.6). As you point out, temperatures from different countries are difficult to compare.

I have never known anyone, or for that matter walked into any domestic house with A/C in the UK, it's just not needed.

My house is nearly 300 years old with walls over a foot thick (not cavity but solid) so is fairly cool, I keep the windows closed and shut all the curtains which keeps the heat out. Although it would be nice to have A/C it would be a total waste of money for the times there is extreme heat over here.

The warnings that have been given are a reminder to those looking after the very young (babies) and the elderly to make sure that they are kept hydrated and ventilated. Sage advice, to be honest. Most of the country will be sunbathing and enjoying the heat.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Excellent post. The hottest ever recorded in the UK is 38.7C (101.6). As you point out, temperatures from different countries are difficult to compare.

I have never known anyone, or for that matter walked into any domestic house with A/C in the UK, it's just not needed.

My house is nearly 300 years old with walls over a foot thick (not cavity but solid) so is fairly cool, I keep the windows closed and shut all the curtains which keeps the heat out. Although it would be nice to have A/C it would be a total waste of money for the times there is extreme heat over here.

The warnings that have been given are a reminder to those looking after the very young (babies) and the elderly to make sure that they are kept hydrated and ventilated. Sage advice, to be honest. Most of the country will be sunbathing and enjoying the heat.

Perhaps you can argue with my wife over keeping windows and curtains shut

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by rootbeer7

Perhaps you can argue with my wife over keeping windows and curtains shut

I know exactly where you are coming from my friend. My line to my wife was that "It is hotter outside luv, if we open the windows, it is going to be the same temperature inside as outside, there is no way that we can make North Yorkshire cooler by opening the windows and letting the cool air, from inside our house, out."

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by daveathall

I know exactly where you are coming from my friend. My line to my wife was that "It is hotter outside luv, if we open the windows, it is going to be the same temperature inside as outside, there is no way that we can make North Yorkshire cooler by opening the windows and letting the cool air, from inside our house, out."

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

The answer is that LA and Miami are very different from London.

“Summer, from June to August, is not very warm, but in this season, the area of London is the warmest of the entire UK. In July and August, lows are around 14 °C (57 °F) and highs around 23/24 °C (73.5/75 °F).” (https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/england/london)

So, a forecasted high in London of 38 C (100 F) is 33% above average and quite extreme. Remember: London does not have massive air conditioning infrastructure.

It’s the equivalent of 115 F in Miami in July (33% above the average July high of 86.5 F). At least in Miami there is AC.

Or, to use the Tucson example above, which averages 100 F in July, it’s the equivalent of 133 F. Pretty extreme stuff.

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Supposedly it will be the hottest day on record in the UK and very few people have aircon. Extreme weather is always newsworthy. US national TV news seems to lead with weather at least once a week, even if it's only going to affect a few states.

Originally Posted by daveathall

Excellent post. The hottest ever recorded in the UK is 38.7C (101.6). As you point out, temperatures from different countries are difficult to compare.

I have never known anyone, or for that matter walked into any domestic house with A/C in the UK, it's just not needed.

My house is nearly 300 years old with walls over a foot thick (not cavity but solid) so is fairly cool, I keep the windows closed and shut all the curtains which keeps the heat out. Although it would be nice to have A/C it would be a total waste of money for the times there is extreme heat over here.

The warnings that have been given are a reminder to those looking after the very young (babies) and the elderly to make sure that they are kept hydrated and ventilated. Sage advice, to be honest. Most of the country will be sunbathing and enjoying the heat.

Excellent posts gentlemen

We could reverse the scenario and ask what the big deal is when temperatures drops below freezing in some parts of the world ….

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Excellent posts gentlemen

We could reverse the scenario and ask what the big deal is when temperatures drops below freezing in some parts of the world ….

We can’t cope either

[R.bartlett]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Excellent post. The hottest ever recorded in the UK is 38.7C (101.6). As you point out, temperatures from different countries are difficult to compare.

I have never known anyone, or for that matter walked into any domestic house with A/C in the UK, it's just not needed.

My house is nearly 300 years old with walls over a foot thick (not cavity but solid) so is fairly cool, I keep the windows closed and shut all the curtains which keeps the heat out. Although it would be nice to have A/C it would be a total waste of money for the times there is extreme heat over here.

The warnings that have been given are a reminder to those looking after the very young (babies) and the elderly to make sure that they are kept hydrated and ventilated. Sage advice, to be honest. Most of the country will be sunbathing and enjoying the heat.

I first worked on a house in UK with AC back in 1983 and on houses every year till I left UK in 2015 so your assumption that it doesn't exist is total nonsense.

Many thousands of houses have AC these days especially as heat pumps which reverse to cooling are becoming more popular.
For example, living in central London leaving windows open allows noise, pollution and unwelcome light fingered visitors in whilst sleeping, so many especially the more up market areas demand AC (even more the foreign buyers who tend to have it in the main overseas residence so demand it in their UK home too)

ironically I was living and working in Cheltenham in August in 1990 which became the then record of 37.1c and by chance when that was broken, working at Heathrow ap on July 31st for the new record of 37.8c
sure they were hot days and summer as an AC company owner we tend to be quite busy meant we were all flat out but whilst everyone else was busy moaning about the heat, we were up on roofs fixing stuff

(the two later UK records of Faversham and Cambridge I was not in those areas at the time.! btw)

however here in Tenerife we regularly get temperatures above 45c and still continue to work through it.
The worst I ever had was in one July in Bahrain where over 50c was recorded. Now THAT was hot!

I get the UK suffers with these over 30c temps but it really is only ever a few days.

The overreaction is just symptomatic of today's self indulgent society

[daveathall]

Originally Posted by R.bartlett

I first worked on a house in UK with AC back in 1983 and on houses every year till I left UK in 2015 so your assumption that it doesn't exist is total nonsense.

Many thousands of houses have AC these days especially as heat pumps which reverse to cooling are becoming more popular.
For example, living in central London leaving windows open allows noise, pollution and unwelcome light fingered visitors in whilst sleeping, so many especially the more up market areas demand AC (even more the foreign buyers who tend to have it in the main overseas residence so demand it in their UK home too)

ironically I was living and working in Cheltenham in August in 1990 which became the then record of 37.1c and by chance when that was broken, working at Heathrow ap on July 31st for the new record of 37.8c
sure they were hot days and summer as an AC company owner we tend to be quite busy meant we were all flat out but whilst everyone else was busy moaning about the heat, we were up on roofs fixing stuff

(the two later UK records of Faversham and Cambridge I was not in those areas at the time.! btw)

however here in Tenerife we regularly get temperatures above 45c and still continue to work through it.
The worst I ever had was in one July in Bahrain where over 50c was recorded. Now THAT was hot!

I get the UK suffers with these over 30c temps but it really is only ever a few days.

The overreaction is just symptomatic of today's self indulgent society

You will of course be able to bold where I said or assumed air conditioning doesn't exist in the UK?

Fact is, about 3% of homes in the UK have air conditioning, (05% in 2008, perhaps you should have worked harder)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshal...h=72b5d8f510f1

It seems to indicate that it is you that is speaking nonsense. No?

Congratulations that while everyone else was moaning about the weather, you where working. Everyone else? Really? Out of the 65 million people in the UK? Congratulations, you are a super hero. Since you left, I wonder how we have managed.

I have not read anywhere that the extreme heat will last over a period of time, it has been reported to be about 2 days.

Your over reaction of this thread seems to be present in most of your posts.

[R.bartlett]

Originally Posted by daveathall

You will of course be able to bold where I said air conditioning doesn't exist in the UK?

Fact is, about 3% of homes in the UK have air conditioning, (05% in 2008, perhaps you should have worked harder)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshal...h=72b5d8f510f1

It seems to indicate that it is you that is speaking nonsense. No?

Congratulations that while everyone else was moaning about the weather, you where working. Everyone else? Really? Out of the 65 million people in the UK? Congratulations, you are a super hero. Since you left, I wonder how we have managed.

"I have never known anyone, or for that matter walked into any domestic house with A/C in the UK, it's just not needed"

I'm sure maybe even some of the other houses on your rundown council estate may be getting AC one day soon !

TBF AC and fridge engineers are the saviours of modern society. Without their skills and willingness to work all over the world in extreme conditions there would be no modern society so in that sense the term super hero is fully justified

the phrase we get the most is "hurry up and fix our air conditioning, we're too hot to work"
so yes everyone else moans about the heat, facilities managers moan that the operating theatre AC has gone down, Barclaycard worry no3 chiller has shut down, Google maintenance avidly watch cooling towers for over temps, Tesco store manager rings for the umpteenth time that his freezers have all gone down etc etc etc

mechanical cooling is ingrained so deep into modern living it's entirely ignored.. until it doesn't work.

not all heroes wear capes and I salute my fellow fridgies because I know what they are about to go through next week even though in real terms it's not that hot.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by daveathall

You will of course be able to bold where I said or assumed air conditioning doesn't exist in the UK?

Fact is, about 3% of homes in the UK have air conditioning, (05% in 2008, perhaps you should have worked harder)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshal...h=72b5d8f510f1

It seems to indicate that it is you that is speaking nonsense. No?

Congratulations that while everyone else was moaning about the weather, you where working. Everyone else? Really? Out of the 65 million people in the UK? Congratulations, you are a super hero. Since you left, I wonder how we have managed.

I have not read anywhere that the extreme heat will last over a period of time, it has been reported to be about 2 days.

Your over reaction of this thread seems to be present in most of your posts.

This article in the New York Times today seems to agree with you my friend.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/18/w...ning-heat.html

"LONDON — Temperatures topping 100 degrees are difficult to endure anywhere, but it’s particularly dangerous in Britain, where few homes are equipped with air conditioning.

There is little data on how many homes in England have air conditioning units installed, but the best estimates place it at under 5 percent of homes, according to a 2021 report from Britain’s Department for Business Energy and Industrial Strategy. Most of the air conditioning in use comes from portable units, with central air rarely found outside of some high-end apartments in London.

While a handful of days each summer are typically unpleasant, many Britons will say there simply aren’t enough difficult days and nights in the usually mild climate to make air conditioning a worthy investment. Many also view it as unnecessary and environmentally harmful, with a fan pointed at the bed considered to be just fine for a few nights per year.

And British homes were not designed with sweltering summers in mind.

“We are a heating-dominated country, not a cooling-dominated country,” said Tadj Oreszczyn, a professor of energy and environment at the University College London Energy Institute.

He added: “We haven’t designed our homes historically to cope with overheating. We’ve designed them to keep ourselves warm.”

In some older buildings, the pipes that run through corridors that deliver hot water may not be properly insulated, he said, so running hot water for a shower could be causing heat to spread throughout the apartment. That’s fine when trying to overcome a frigid winter, but exacerbates problems during a heat wave.

Air conditioning is more common outside of the home. About half of the cooling demand in England comes from offices, followed by retail locations and hospitals, according to the government report.

But there has been a small increase in demand in recent years for cooling systems in residences, fueled in part by the increased use of home offices during the coronavirus pandemic, the report found. And officials are preparing for a future in which rising temperatures, driven by climate change, could create more demand for cooling systems, which use a lot of energy and could work against Britain’s goal of reducing its net production of greenhouse gases to zero by 2050.

“Following the change in working practices resulting from Covid-19, it is expected that there will be a long-term trend of people working from home for some or all of the time, and this is likely to maintain an increased market for cooling systems,” the report said."

Daniel Victor is a general assignment reporter based in London after stints in Hong Kong and New York. He joined The Times in 2012

[DoricSpiker]

Originally Posted by R.bartlett

I first worked on a house in UK with AC back in 1983 and on houses every year till I left UK in 2015 so your assumption that it doesn't exist is total nonsense.

Many thousands of houses have AC these days especially as heat pumps which reverse to cooling are becoming more popular.
For example, living in central London leaving windows open allows noise, pollution and unwelcome light fingered visitors in whilst sleeping, so many especially the more up market areas demand AC (even more the foreign buyers who tend to have it in the main overseas residence so demand it in their UK home too)

ironically I was living and working in Cheltenham in August in 1990 which became the then record of 37.1c and by chance when that was broken, working at Heathrow ap on July 31st for the new record of 37.8c
sure they were hot days and summer as an AC company owner we tend to be quite busy meant we were all flat out but whilst everyone else was busy moaning about the heat, we were up on roofs fixing stuff

(the two later UK records of Faversham and Cambridge I was not in those areas at the time.! btw)

however here in Tenerife we regularly get temperatures above 45c and still continue to work through it.
The worst I ever had was in one July in Bahrain where over 50c was recorded. Now THAT was hot!

I get the UK suffers with these over 30c temps but it really is only ever a few days.

The overreaction is just symptomatic of today's self indulgent society

You say people over react but you have also said Tenerife is regularly over 45 degrees. I want to call that bit of hype out! How regularly does this happen? If it does happen, does that not just last for a couple of days? Why have I been going to Tenerife for years and it’s never been above low 30s, even in august? Where does the constant trade wind go when this 45 degree monster regularly hits?

I agree that these heat warnings can lead to be a bit of sensationalism. I live in London though and can tell you I am glad of the warnings. Elements of our transport system, especially the tube, will be dangerous to many people in this heat.

Enjoy Tenerife, where I see it is currently 23 degrees with a lovely fresh breeze!


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[G3Z]

I think people forget that the U.K. isn’t prepared for these kind of freak temperatures. The houses are heavily insulated, no A/c and no pools to cool off in.

[rootbeer7]

If Covid, cost of living crisis, nuclear war didn’t get you, then the weather will! Sadly it’s all fear-mongering from the various news outlets.

[Old Expat Beast]

Supposedly it will be the hottest day on record in the UK and very few people have aircon. Extreme weather is always newsworthy. US national TV news seems to lead with weather at least once a week, even if it's only going to affect a few states.

[colpol]

Talking/ complaining about the weather is a National obsession in the UK.

The press if you’ll forgive the pun are ‘creating a storm’ about this one day.

Its raining in Scotland this morning but 27/ full sunshine next 2 days. I’ll be talking about these 2 days for the next 6 months

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by daveathall

Excellent post. The hottest ever recorded in the UK is 38.7C (101.6). As you point out, temperatures from different countries are difficult to compare.

I have never known anyone, or for that matter walked into any domestic house with A/C in the UK, it's just not needed.

My house is nearly 300 years old with walls over a foot thick (not cavity but solid) so is fairly cool, I keep the windows closed and shut all the curtains which keeps the heat out. Although it would be nice to have A/C it would be a total waste of money for the times there is extreme heat over here.

The warnings that have been given are a reminder to those looking after the very young (babies) and the elderly to make sure that they are kept hydrated and ventilated. Sage advice, to be honest. Most of the country will be sunbathing and enjoying the heat.

300 years old? That is so cool my friend. I love it. I love your country‘s history. I spend my life on YouTube watching videos about it.

Originally Posted by colpol

Talking/ complaining about the weather is a National obsession in the UK.

The press if you’ll forgive the pun are ‘creating a storm’ about this one day.

Its raining in Scotland this morning but 27/ full sunshine next 2 days. I’ll be talking about these 2 days for the next 6 months

Obsession about weather is the news agencies when it comes to hurricanes. They really go into a sort of depression if there isn’t any really big ones in a particularly year that causes lots of damage and displaces lots of people. But when one does come you can see the absolute excitement and happiness in their faces. It’s sick. It wasn’t like this 30 years ago. They just reported on them when they were coming so that people could be warned. Now it’s like an expectation so when it doesn’t come they feel let down. The worst part is the reporting they do actually seems to work when it comes to creating panic.

[Lonehiker]

Originally Posted by colpol

Talking/ complaining about the weather is a National obsession in the UK.

The press if you’ll forgive the pun are ‘creating a storm’ about this one day.

Its raining in Scotland this morning but 27/ full sunshine next 2 days. I’ll be talking about these 2 days for the next 6 months

You must be on the west coast!? On the east side, we’ve had almost no rain and almost daily sunshine since Easter!

[colpol]

Originally Posted by Lonehiker

You must be on the west coast!? On the east side, we’ve had almost no rain and almost daily sunshine since Easter!

Yes the west coast

Surprised evolution hasn’t given us webbed feet

[mountainjogger]

Everyone I know is addicted to AC. So, I am not going to cast stones.

[enjoythemusic]

Personally would rather take the heat and humidity than winters at my previous mountaintop home. It was 'only' -17F outside at the time... not including wind chill.

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[Nickn]

A heat wave used to be three consecutive days where the temperature hits 27 degrees
Now each day is classed as one
Just come back from the gym where a very suntanned lady walked it and started moaning how hot it was ,it’s 27 where I am
When she had finish the owner asked how her holiday in Spain was her reply lovely the weather was gorgeous !
Up until last year weather girls used to say it’s going to be a nice sunny day remember your sun cream or summers arrived now it’s a red weather warnings
Spoke to a couple of local farmer down the pub last night they have finished the grain harvest early and yields are up 10% on the news it said farmers were worried the yields would be down due to the hot weather
What’s going on are the diverted the great unwashed from all the really bad news
As for the temperature recording my local station used to be in the middle of a field now it’s surrounded by new build houses this must effect the recordings ??

[Nickn]

Well it’s worked all the scare mongering has made everyone stay in doors
Just taking the dog for a walk
Cloudy 29 degrees 84 in proper money
Haven’t seen a soul roads are empty even my local which is normally full on a Sunday was empty
A Brave new world