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Old 16 September 2009, 11:49 AM   #1
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My Rolex inner engrave to be askew a position

To be unusual ??????






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Old 16 September 2009, 12:40 PM   #2
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That should line up for sure......take it back to the AD and get it sorted out, you know it's there now and your eye will always go to it.....big shame....but I am sure it can be easily fixed
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Old 16 September 2009, 12:44 PM   #3
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I dont get it...What are we looking at here? Thats it is just ever so slightly off center?
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Old 16 September 2009, 01:03 PM   #4
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Yeah...the corronet on the inner engraving should line up with the triangular 12 o'clock marker and be dead central on the case....each letter of the ROLEXROLEXROLEX should also line up with a minute marker...so of course it is misaligned all the way round, you just notice more with the corronet at 12.....look at the L and the E between 10 and 11 o'clock, they should be bang on a minute mark.....only a small detail but it would bug me as well, I have never seen it before....it is a QC thing in my opinion
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Old 16 September 2009, 01:42 PM   #5
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There was a recent thread on this issue not too long ago. This would drive me insane, get it fixed if it bothers you too, thanks for the pics.
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Old 16 September 2009, 11:54 PM   #6
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send it to the rsc, i could not live with that.
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Old 17 September 2009, 12:32 AM   #7
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I can tell you right now that if you brought this into an AD let alone an RSC, the person is first going to say, "what?" Then your gonna have to explain it. The person may or may not see it and either give you the "raised eyebrow" or the "double take" when they finally DO see what the heck it is your talking about !

Then its going to sit there on the counter for a period as the person either says, we can realign it but its going to be after lunch, or they're gonna say, we have to send it to ROLEX to get it sorted.

Or their gonna go and talk to someone else about it in the back room/area and they're going to look in the security camera tv and point you out and chuckle at you, then get serious, have a bite of whatever' sitting next to their cold coffee, come back out and tellya, "are you a WISnut? Cause only a WISnut would bring something up like this?" And your gonna start to get a funny feeling, the kinda feeling that says, "maybe I better leave while I can before something bad happens to my 'precious' ".

And its going to happen because 89% of service peeps these days will do exactly just that. If your lucky you'll get somebody that knows their stuff and maybe JUST MAYBE your watch will not suffer impailment, superficial lug scratches, rehaute ring scratches, dial microfibres left behind or human hair follicle (yes, thats happened before). All because you "cant live with the ring being off center".

If you cant live with this and it makes you crazy, then there are other things in your life you need to have professionally looked into. I know I have issues and I got help, and I stopped buying 3 or 6 watches a year !

Is it really worth it, cause I dont think it is !

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Old 17 September 2009, 12:47 AM   #8
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What Randy said........
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Old 17 September 2009, 01:03 AM   #9
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You might get used to it.. at some point.. but on the other hand.. it should not be misaligned at all.
The problem as someone said is that once you know it is there, your eyes will instinctively go there 90% of the times you look at the time.. if that bothers you just send it to RSC and I am sure they will fix it right away.
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Old 17 September 2009, 12:50 PM   #10
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but on the other hand, putting that kind of money into a watch, if they are going to introduce this new inside engraving to help stop counterfeiting then they should make sure they all line up PERFECTLY before they leave the factory. i have seen fakes that line up perfectly, why shouldn't Rolex?

With seeing the number of fakes I see, I look for the inside engraving, if it has it I look to see if it lines up and if it doesn't my first thought it that the watch is fake.

I would be pissed if I bought a Rolex with inside engraving and it didn't match up with the money I have in the watch. Just my .02
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Old 17 September 2009, 02:18 PM   #11
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Go fix it, you properly can't sleep if you don't
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Old 17 September 2009, 04:09 PM   #12
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Sorry for your misalignment and yes - of course it should be fixed and I think that your attention to detail is totally acceptable for such an expensive and precise timepiece. This is one of the reasons we all buy Rolex - for the ultra high quality. It is, IMO, totally justified in having your AD realign it.
I am surprised that some of the posters here seem to think it is ok for you to leave it - personally it would bug the hell outta me and you will see everytime you look at it!
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Old 17 September 2009, 10:29 PM   #13
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Sorry for your misalignment and yes - of course it should be fixed and I think that your attention to detail is totally acceptable for such an expensive and precise timepiece. This is one of the reasons we all buy Rolex - for the ultra high quality. It is, IMO, totally justified in having your AD realign it.
I am surprised that some of the posters here seem to think it is ok for you to leave it - personally it would bug the hell outta me and you will see everytime you look at it!
then maybe you might want to try a loupe and look at how the luminova is filled in those gold applied hour surrounds !
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Old 17 September 2009, 11:38 PM   #14
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Only way to fix it is replace the case it's engraved on the inner bezel ring a part of the case. Good luck with that. Rikki
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Old 17 September 2009, 11:57 PM   #15
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Only way to fix it is replace the case it's engraved on the inner bezel ring a part of the case. Good luck with that. Rikki
I did not know that, guess he'll be puttin that puppy on the sales corner, as he " just cant live with that ! " !
And lets see, the Rehaute is skewed that should knock the selling price down, what, say another 20 percent off the 20 percent for it being 2nd hand, so a total of 40 percent off MSRP. Do you want cash, cause I have it right now !

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Old 18 September 2009, 12:45 AM   #16
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take it back and they will have fixed for u
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Old 18 September 2009, 12:59 AM   #17
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It's your money, your watch. Do what you see fit. If it were mine, in my humble opinion, I would want it to be right.
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Old 18 September 2009, 01:09 AM   #18
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The fact that it is misaligned would suggest that it is a separate part that can be replaced and/or repaired. I have seen a detailed exploded view of an oyster case. I seem to remember the rehaut being a separate part, but I am unable to locate the image to confirm my recollection. I would just live with it until it's first service. I had a tiny white fleck of dust on the dial of my IWC and lived with it for 4 years until it was serviced. I stopped noticing it after a few days. It, like your issue, was really not visible and I was worried about potential damage to the watch or dial during an unnecessary repair. It happens all the time. Especially if the "certified expert" in the back of the AD does it instead of the service center. If you must get it fixed now, send it, along with a detailed description of the problem, to the RSC of your choice directly.
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Old 18 September 2009, 01:10 AM   #19
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This really tiny misalignment just makes that watch little special. It will have sratches and dents and everything with time, there is just no point to worry about it at all. To be honest I have never even looked at the rehaut, it is just a security thing,dont care how the engraving lines up...
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Old 18 September 2009, 01:18 AM   #20
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hahaa omg im just dreading to check if mines in the right angle or not! throwing all the loupes in my place...
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Old 18 September 2009, 05:28 AM   #21
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It was discussed before and the guy said the AD's watch technician was able to correct it.

Mine is also a bit off also but I am not bothered by it. I noticed that maybe my coronet is a 1mm off at 12 minute marker but my center digit serial number ( i mean the capital X of MxxXxxx) is spot on at 6 minute marker. So I am guessing the assembler has either to align the coronet top or the serial number bottom (numbers have different size e.g 1 or 0) causing the RHB sometimes not in perfect alignment. Just my to 2cents.

so, we should check the ff. before we buy( a new thread for this?):

1. RHB coronet should align
2. No speck inside the face
3. Lume is evenly coated
4. dials are perfectly glued and spaced
5. crown closed at 3 o'clock position
6. clasp and easy link are in perfect shape.
7. 24 hand should align every hour marker
8. date should change at exactly 12MN.
9. No scratches
10. cyclop is center
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Old 18 September 2009, 07:23 AM   #22
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Since rehaut is part of the case, I wonder if dial is the one that's misaligned. In that case it should be a quick fix for Rolex.

I think we all suffer from OCD here, mainly cause for most of us Rolex didn't come easy. I'm pretty sure celebrities and CEOs never bother looking at these details - for them Rolex is just a one of many status symbols they've acquired.

On my Sub date for example, date is not centered in the date window. It sits a little lower than it should and it bugs the hell out of me. But in reality it's so minor I might bother bringing it up to RCS just before 2 years run out. I'm too was wondering how in the world the mighty Rolex could've missed such a blatant defect!
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Since rehaut is part of the case, I wonder if dial is the one that's misaligned. In that case it should be a quick fix for Rolex.

I think we all suffer from OCD here, mainly cause for most of us Rolex didn't come easy. I'm pretty sure celebrities and CEOs never bother looking at these details - for them Rolex is just a one of many status symbols they've acquired.

On my Sub date for example, date is not centered in the date window. It sits a little lower than it should and it bugs the hell out of me. But in reality it's so minor I might bother bringing it up to RCS just before 2 years run out. I'm too was wondering how in the world the mighty Rolex could've missed such a blatant defect!
that happens when a Rolex gets produced on a Friday...
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Old 18 September 2009, 07:30 AM   #24
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so, we should check the ff. before we buy( a new thread for this?):

1. RHB coronet should align
2. No speck inside the face
3. Lume is evenly coated
4. dials are perfectly glued and spaced
5. crown closed at 3 o'clock position
6. clasp and easy link are in perfect shape.
7. 24 hand should align every hour marker
8. date should change at exactly 12MN.
9. No scratches
10. cyclop is center
and more
Ha ha - good luck with that. I want to see the face of AD when you ask for all samples of the model you want to buy only to turn down all of them. And forget about any discount!
The only things I checked for when I bought mine was: coronet on the crystal to align with 6 o'clock marker, scratches and second hand line up with markers (which is non issue for Rolex because of sweeping second hand). That's how I missed the date position. But on the other hand, I did turn down one sample at a dealer because coronet wasn't aligned which obviously does the same to cyclop over the date window.
Can't catch them all :D
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Old 18 September 2009, 08:01 AM   #25
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Sorry, but I can't stop laughing. It's not uncommon for a high end swiss watch to not be perfect. There is no such thing as perfect in this world. Adam and Eve made sure of that back when they ate the forbidden fruit.
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Well all I can say is a blind man would like to see it, and if it did not have the Rolex Rolex Rolex on rehaut you would never know the difference. And afraid thats a solid part of the watch case, and would doubt if Rolex would supply a complete new watch case for such a very minor purely cosmetic 1mm alignment.
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It's likely a result of what's called "tolerance stacking".... I doubt that the rehout is actually the problem..

It's where there is a fraction of a mm allowance for the indexing of the etching on athe rehaut; fraction of a mm deviation allowed for the painting of the marks on the dial;.... a fraction of a mm allowance for the dial mount on the movement; a fraction of a mm allowance for the fitment of the entire assembly into the case...

When all those tolerances are "stacked" in the same direction, you see a fraction of a mm difference only because you have a visual reference..

It can probably be corrected by disassembling the parts and re-assembling them with a bit of a twist the other way..


But, for you guys who are insisting that a Rolex is "expensive", or that somehow it is a perfect instrument..... You haven't been around a Rolex much....... They are robust, dependable, and good quality.. with an excellent reputation... but perfect or expensive.......
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All this begs the question: Is or is not the Rehaut a part of the case as per Rik or is it a seperate piece that can be re-installed?
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All this begs the question: Is or is not the Rehaut a part of the case as per Rik or is it a seperate piece that can be re-installed?
No, it cannot be taken out and reinstalled...... except for the Seadweller and the DSSD.....
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Larry, does this mean that the RE is aligned with the center of the case and wrps
dial is out or the RE was indexed off a bit. I quess you are saying it could be both? I'm just glad mine aint got the engraving, I like them simple.
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