New Drop Coming from AP “Gold”

[Steele]

Looks like a new Yellow gold Drop is incoming

[Eldad]

I have absolutely no anticipation and curiosity for the launch. In terms of statement, design and innovation, Ap has been saying nothing for more than fifty years. And I don't even want to get into this story of the code in which they miss every point from the case strap buckle and the dial.


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[JPCC]

Originally Posted by Eldad

I have absolutely no anticipation and curiosity for the launch. In terms of statement, design and innovation, Ap has been saying nothing for more than fifty years. And I don't even want to get into this story of the code in which they miss every point from the case strap buckle and the dial.


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I guess the award means “AP have been saying nothing” for “statement, design and innovation”?

Also, harping on lack of innovation and design is odd given your collection of Rolexs/daytonas, that haven’t changed much in decades. Maybe swap one Daytona for a skydweller (Rolex’s last real “new” model) and at least I can say you’re being consistent! :)




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[El-Sigma]

Originally Posted by Eldad

I have absolutely no anticipation and curiosity for the launch. In terms of statement, design and innovation, Ap has been saying nothing for more than fifty years. And I don't even want to get into this story of the code in which they miss every point from the case strap buckle and the dial.


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No interest, but being the first one to reply on a afficionados forum. Not sure to understand where you're coming from on this.

[Eldad]

Originally Posted by El-Sigma

No interest, but being the first one to reply on a afficionados forum. Not sure to understand where you're coming from on this.

I don't understand why you guys are so hurt. For thirty years they have failed to reinvent themselves with a new design. Their model line revolves around the Royal Oak. I don't need to defend myself and say that I am against the brand because I own several of their watches. But hey what about other models. In my personal opinion, they must bring back and revive the 6005, an amazing watch suitable for a variety of events. Not everything is an octagon. And by the way, making another unique watch for Ed Sheeran and John Mayer is not cool, it's trite.


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[gretch6364]

Originally Posted by Eldad

Not everything is an octagon.

Not everything is a circle...

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Eldad

I have absolutely no anticipation and curiosity for the launch. In terms of statement, design and innovation, Ap has been saying nothing for more than fifty years.

Millenary (RIP), Offshore, Concept, Code, seems like a bigger variety of new directions than PP, VC and Rolex combined. Lots of new materials (Tantalum, BMG, forged carbon, best ceramic finish in the business) and interesting horology (e.g., RD#1 - 4). Seems like your lack of curiosity is a you problem.

[Eldad]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Millenary (RIP), Offshore, Concept, Code, seems like a bigger variety of new directions than PP, VC and Rolex combined. Lots of new materials (Tantalum, BMG, forged carbon, best ceramic finish in the business) and interesting horology (e.g., RD#1 - 4). Seems like your lack of curiosity is a you problem.

Rolex and Patek do not need to make a million materials for one model because they have a huge variety of models, therefore gold and steel are enough when there is such a large variety. On the other hand, when your variety comes down to Royal Oak, you have no choice but to make countless sizes and materials for one model that holds an entire company. I will ask you a simple question, will AP exist one day if they stop producing the Royal Oak? On the other hand, will Patek survive if they stop producing the Nautilus or Rolex GMT?


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[singe89]

Originally Posted by Eldad

Rolex and Patek do not need to make a million materials for one model because they have a huge variety of models, therefore gold and steel are enough when there is such a large variety. On the other hand, when your variety comes down to Royal Oak, you have no choice but to make countless sizes and materials for one model that holds an entire company. I will ask you a simple question, will AP exist one day if they stop producing the Royal Oak? On the other hand, will Patek survive if they stop producing the Nautilus or Rolex GMT?


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Rolex and variety is a joke. All of their sport watches are a variation of the oyster case with just different names aka yarchmaster, submariner, GMT, explorer, etc. or is it diversity because people like to call them stupid nicknames like Pepsi, Hulk, Batman or Cookie Monster. it’s all the same watch with slight color/design/complication changed. AP has WAY more variety and complications in the regular Royal oak line they just happen to lump everything under the iconic Royal oak name. As for Patek they have 2 sport watches that the masses care about, the nautilus and the aquanaut and there is minimal diversity in those lineups at best.

At this point I prefer Patek and Rolex to AP but AP has significantly more options in the sports watch market and that’s what people care about these days.

[Eldad]

Originally Posted by singe89

Rolex and variety is a joke. All of their sport watches are a variation of the oyster case with just different names aka yarchmaster, submariner, GMT, explorer, etc. or is it diversity because people like to call them stupid nicknames like Pepsi, Hulk, Batman or Cookie Monster. it’s all the same watch with slight color/design/complication changed. AP has WAY more variety and complications in the regular Royal oak line they just happen to lump everything under the iconic Royal oak name. As for Patek they have 2 sport watches that the masses care about, the nautilus and the aquanaut and there is minimal diversity in those lineups at best.

At this point I prefer Patek and Rolex to AP but AP has significantly more options in the sports watch market and that’s what people care about these days.

Thank you very much for your insights. Totally agree with you on the issue of complications. Regarding the design issue, I think it's time to see an innovation from the guys in le brassus there’s more shapes than octagon and the sky is the limit.


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[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by Eldad

Rolex and Patek do not need to make a million materials for one model because they have a huge variety of models, therefore gold and steel are enough when there is such a large variety. On the other hand, when your variety comes down to Royal Oak, you have no choice but to make countless sizes and materials for one model that holds an entire company. I will ask you a simple question, will AP exist one day if they stop producing the Royal Oak? On the other hand, will Patek survive if they stop producing the Nautilus or Rolex GMT?


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The real question to your question would be, WHY would AP stop producing the RO, PP the Nautilus, or Rolex the GMT? For that matter, would Porsche stop producing the 911 or Hermes the Birkin? It's a business and why change it, if it's working???

If PP stopped making the Nautilus, how would that affect sales of their other lines? Nautilus and Aquanaut is the reward for PP collectors to take the PP journey, remember? To be fair, you have to compare the entire Rolex sport line to the RO. If they stopped their sport line, what would happen to their business?


The answer? We don't know and it doesn't matter because it's not going to happen! I don't understand the purpose of all these what "if" scenarios.

[Octagon Guy]

Originally Posted by Steele

Looks like a new Yellow gold Drop is incoming

Yes, saw the teaser too. Excited on what's to come.

[construda]

Ffffuuuuu

[Johndong888]

Two tone watch. Not my cup of tea.


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[iten]

I am surprised no one here is speculating or got wind of what's coming this week.

[PP&AP]

Would make sense for this to be the 28mm launch. APs IG has had a lot of focus on small watches in recent weeks

[Mbbgysam]

Originally Posted by PP&AP

Would make sense for this to be the 28mm launch. APs IG has had a lot of focus on small watches in recent weeks

I was thinking the same. I’m expecting a mini RO

[SMD]

Another troll engagement farmer to ignore.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by SMD

Another troll engagement farmer to ignore.

right, lol and literally uses the same arguments and responses as the other guy except with better grammar

[mickyd329]

Just a personal observation. I put the AP haters into 5 categories.

1. AP boutique won't give them an RO, unless they buy a CODE or ROO. They get all twisted about it, yet they don't mind that PP and Rolex have the same pay to play scheme.
When is the last time we saw a Nautilus or Steel Daytona as a first or second purchase?

2. They took the journey and purchased a CODE/ROO and got their RO during the peak thinking they made wise financial decisions. Got caught up in the FOMO and now they are taking a financial hit. That's AP's fault now because they lack innovation, design, and diversity.

3. They went grey and paid the premium thinking the values will keep going up. Now they are below water and pissed at AP for it.

4. They bought an AP that had mechanical issues and not happy. I'm good with this. It wasn't a financial driven displeasure and rather a product quality one.

5. AP boutique experience was subpar and they won't give them the time of day. I empathize with this group as well, but then they turn into haters and criticize the brand for lack of innovation, design, and diversity. BTW, it's a one trick pony brand. Well, isn't that one trick pony the one you were trying to get in the first place?

I might of missed a few, feel free to add to the list.

I'll get off the soapbox now.

[In-N-Out]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Just a personal observation. I put the AP haters into 5 categories.

1. AP boutique won't give them an RO, unless they buy a CODE or ROO. They get all twisted about it, yet they don't mind that PP and Rolex have the same pay to play scheme.
When is the last time we saw a Nautilus or Steel Daytona as a first or second purchase?

2. They took the journey and purchased a CODE/ROO and got their RO during the peak thinking they made wise financial decisions. Got caught up in the FOMO and now they are taking a financial hit. That's AP's fault now because they lack innovation, design, and diversity.

3. They went grey and paid the premium thinking the values will keep going up. Now they are below water and pissed at AP for it.

4. They bought an AP that had mechanical issues and not happy. I'm good with this. It wasn't a financial driven displeasure and rather a product quality one.

5. AP boutique experience was subpar and they won't give them the time of day. I empathize with this group as well, but then they turn into haters and criticize the brand for lack of innovation, design, and diversity. BTW, it's a one trick pony brand. Well, isn't that one trick pony the one you were trying to get in the first place?

I might of missed a few, feel free to add to the list.

I'll get off the soapbox now.

There’s also the:

6) can’t afford AP so every AP owner is a douche. This can be the guy who owns 100 Seikos, or one ND sub, or the PRX guy.

I learned this the hard way when I posted an incoming RO thread on r/watches and got so much hate lol

Nothing wrong with not having the money for an AP. That was me a few years ago. But there’s so many cynical watch collectors in the low-mid range that like to attack high end collectors. And for some reason, AP gets the most hate.

There’s so many hobbies I would love to get into like art, wine, cars..but I can’t afford to do that when I have other expensive hobbies like traveling and collecting watches. Doesn’t mean I hate everyone who have the things I can’t afford

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by In-N-Out

There’s also the:

6) can’t afford AP so every AP owner is a douche. This can be the guy who owns 100 Seikos, or one ND sub, or the PRX guy.

I learned this the hard way when I posted an incoming RO thread on r/watches and got so much hate lol

Nothing wrong with not having the money for an AP. That was me a few years ago. But there’s so many cynical watch collectors in the low-mid range that like to attack high end collectors. And for some reason, AP gets the most hate.

There’s so many hobbies I would love to get into like art, wine, cars..but I can’t afford to do that when I have other expensive hobbies like traveling and collecting watches. Doesn’t mean I hate everyone who have the things I can’t afford

Well put.

[7sins]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Just a personal observation. I put the AP haters into 5 categories.

1. AP boutique won't give them an RO, unless they buy a CODE or ROO. They get all twisted about it, yet they don't mind that PP and Rolex have the same pay to play scheme.
When is the last time we saw a Nautilus or Steel Daytona as a first or second purchase?

2. They took the journey and purchased a CODE/ROO and got their RO during the peak thinking they made wise financial decisions. Got caught up in the FOMO and now they are taking a financial hit. That's AP's fault now because they lack innovation, design, and diversity.

3. They went grey and paid the premium thinking the values will keep going up. Now they are below water and pissed at AP for it.

4. They bought an AP that had mechanical issues and not happy. I'm good with this. It wasn't a financial driven displeasure and rather a product quality one.

5. AP boutique experience was subpar and they won't give them the time of day. I empathize with this group as well, but then they turn into haters and criticize the brand for lack of innovation, design, and diversity. BTW, it's a one trick pony brand. Well, isn't that one trick pony the one you were trying to get in the first place?

I might of missed a few, feel free to add to the list.

I'll get off the soapbox now.

Spot on... lately, it feels there are a lot more AP haters this year, when interestingly, accessibility has improved. Some people just don't know how to build relationships with their SA and expect/demand a watch just because they have the funds for it.

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by 7sins

Spot on... lately, it feels there are a lot more AP haters this year, when interestingly, accessibility has improved. Some people just don't know how to build relationships with their SA and expect/demand a watch just because they have the funds for it.

Totally agree. Like everything in life, it's about relationships.

Originally Posted by APhound

Thx micky. Do feel very lucky to have what I have, and new piece coming Friday morning! But you know there’s always another level. I can’t really be buying the big 150+ pieces but like I said, they really motivate me! It wasn’t that long ago, maybe 6 years ago when our business was just getting started and we were facing some real trouble I didn’t know if we would make it through. I had one nice watch left, a deep sea, and couldn’t imagine owning an AP ever! Been a great journey- that’s for sure.
I remember when the khaki diver came out I thought it was the coolest thing, went to talk to an ad and they laughed and said you’ll never get that watch. Made it that much sweeter when I did. I did get treated like shit once or twice in my early ap journey and for some reason it didn’t turn me off just said F U I’ll get it, watch! Fast forward to today, they’re offering me a hard to get watch I never even requested

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Good for you. You deserve to enjoy the fruits of your hard work for sure.

Do tell, what's coming Friday? Can't wait to see!

[APhound]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Totally agree. Like everything in life, it's about relationships.





Good for you. You deserve to enjoy the fruits of your hard work for sure.

Do tell, what's coming Friday? Can't wait to see!

Just a stainless 3 hander that’s not too thick..


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[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by APhound

Just a stainless 3 hander that’s not too thick..


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Congrats in advance. Looking forward to the incoming thread!

[APhound]

I think it’s pretty much 6.
And I’ll be honest I can’t really afford to buy the really sick APs myself. But they drive me to work harder and get to that level.


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[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by APhound

I think it’s pretty much 6.
And I’ll be honest I can’t really afford to buy the really sick APs myself. But they drive me to work harder and get to that level.


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I don't know what you mean by you can't afford sick AP's. Your overall collection is pretty sick already.

[APhound]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

I don't know what you mean by you can't afford sick AP's. Your overall collection is pretty sick already.

Thx micky. Do feel very lucky to have what I have, and new piece coming Friday morning! But you know there’s always another level. I can’t really be buying the big 150+ pieces but like I said, they really motivate me! It wasn’t that long ago, maybe 6 years ago when our business was just getting started and we were facing some real trouble I didn’t know if we would make it through. I had one nice watch left, a deep sea, and couldn’t imagine owning an AP ever! Been a great journey- that’s for sure.
I remember when the khaki diver came out I thought it was the coolest thing, went to talk to an ad and they laughed and said you’ll never get that watch. Made it that much sweeter when I did. I did get treated like shit once or twice in my early ap journey and for some reason it didn’t turn me off just said F U I’ll get it, watch! Fast forward to today, they’re offering me a hard to get watch I never even requested

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[iten]

So no one is speculating what's coming tomorrow?