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Old 30 May 2024, 04:54 PM   #1
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14060m "needs" service?

I have a new to me 14060m 4-liner from 2010. Watch is in NOS condition and is incredibly accurate. So far it is +1 s/d. This wasn't worn much.. but would you still send it in to RSC for them to look at the movement and make sure the gaskets are good, lube is present, etc? Or am I better off not thinking about it and enjoying it as it is.. 14 years just seems like it might be a good time to have Rolex take a peek inside.
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Old 30 May 2024, 04:57 PM   #2
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I might just get a pressure test and maybe check the amplitude and beat error. Or not. Definitely not a service anyway.
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Old 30 May 2024, 05:18 PM   #3
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I'd be inclined to send it in for 100% peace of mind.

Saying that, if you weren't planning on submerging it or swimming then definitely enjoy it for a few months first if everything seems fine.
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Old 30 May 2024, 07:22 PM   #4
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leave it alone it's running great enjoy it.....it needs no service
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Old 30 May 2024, 10:09 PM   #5
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leave it alone it's running great enjoy it.....it needs no service
I agree, unless you are diving or swimming with it I wouldn't bother
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Old 31 May 2024, 12:03 AM   #6
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leave it alone it's running great enjoy it.....it needs no service
Yep, leave it alone.
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Old 30 May 2024, 10:03 PM   #7
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I would get a pressure test before swimming but if it ain’t broke….
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Old 30 May 2024, 10:22 PM   #8
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I'd get it pressure tested semi-locally and sleep comfortably until movement problems showed up, then service.

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Old 31 May 2024, 02:14 AM   #9
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Lubricants and o-rings dry out… if you plan on wearing it regularly, get it serviced.
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Old 31 May 2024, 02:18 AM   #10
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don't "fix" it if it's not broken
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Old 31 May 2024, 02:59 AM   #11
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If your Sub really is NOS then it won´t have been serviced yet. After 14 years I would have it serviced, just for my peace of mind, especially if I was intending to wear it regularly, swimming, diving, whatever. As others have posted, the lubrication and rubber O-rings can dry out and need replacing after such a long time. It´s no big deal. Anyway, what´s the point of having a Sub if you´re not sure if it´s still 100% water tight? BTW, that´s a great watch you have!
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Old 31 May 2024, 03:59 AM   #12
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"NOS" is overused and inaccurate for a used watch; it is only new once.

As to RSC, I don't think that every watch we buy needs to be rushed off for anything if there isn't anything actually wrong.

A pressure test can tell you if the seals are still active, and they likely are. Modern nitrile and Delrin are light years ahead of early seals. Oil may migrate, but again, modern lubes are great and last for quite a while.

The pressure test will give you peace of mind and you can enjoy your watch until you feel that a service will be worth the cost.
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"NOS" is overused and inaccurate for a used watch; it is only new once.

As to RSC, I don't think that every watch we buy needs to be rushed off for anything if there isn't anything actually wrong.

A pressure test can tell you if the seals are still active, and they likely are. Modern nitrile and Delrin are light years ahead of early seals. Oil may migrate, but again, modern lubes are great and last for quite a while.

The pressure test will give you peace of mind and you can enjoy your watch until you feel that a service will be worth the cost.
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Old 31 May 2024, 04:38 AM   #14
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I would get it in for a service at my (your) convenience, but I wouldn't be concerned about the immediacy of it. I've no idea about whether letting it sit unused makes for a more immediate need for service or whether that means service could be put off.

My 2004 14060M has been serviced twice at about every 9 years (not that you would set your clock by it) as a preventive measure against lubrication drying out and seals hardening and allowing leakage, as I hope to wear it daily for 50 years before I pass it down. One could argue the necessity and/or periodicity but that's mostly pedantic.

Wear and enjoy it in good health.

PS: As a 14060M long time owner and daily wearer, IMO you bought a great watch, but you likely know that already.
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Old 31 May 2024, 04:47 AM   #15
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Pressure test it if you’re going to get it wet, otherwise wear and enjoy.
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Old 31 May 2024, 04:12 PM   #16
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Pressure test seems to be the bare minimum consensus. I have a guy locally that I trust for that.

The lube drying out though, if the watch was sitting for a long time and oils migrated, would it be running fine for now but may be doing long-term damage if there isn't oil where it should be? Or is the movement operating re-distributing that oil where it needs to go?
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Old 31 May 2024, 04:15 PM   #17
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Also, if and when this does need servicing, are the two main things to iterate:

1. Do not replace ANY parts
2. Do not polish

Is there anything else you guys recommend when sending an older piece to RSC?
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Also, if and when this does need servicing, are the two main things to iterate:

1. Do not replace ANY parts
2. Do not polish

Is there anything else you guys recommend when sending an older piece to RSC?
1. Movement parts that are worn should always be replaced. Cosmetic parts should be looked at separately to assess potential value impacts.

2. There is a core group who are "non-polish" fanatics. Why would you not want a proper re-finishing to make your watch look as fresh as possible?
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Old 31 May 2024, 04:23 PM   #19
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Old 1 June 2024, 03:23 AM   #20
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Your watch is running perfectly well and it’s NOS meaning it has 0 scratch or mark. I would not risk sending it to RSC and the watch coming back with marks and scratches… These things happen!
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Old 1 June 2024, 08:23 AM   #21
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I had my 2004 14060m as a daily until is stopped last June...sent it to my local RSC and had it serviced for the first time ever this past March. Only needed regular service, nothing "extra." I would pressure test it if you are looking to swim/dive, otherwise wear it in good health until it stops.
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