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Old 14 September 2024, 09:28 PM   #1
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Cubitus-latest

Someone has posted an invitation to the launch of PP’s new line- Cubitus. Some new pictures from the patent filed by PP have shown part of the appearance of Cubitus. Also the MRPS of Cubitus will be lower than Nautilus or Aquanaut.
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Old 14 September 2024, 10:31 PM   #2
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Will be interesting to see. I'm hoping for something refreshing and new- hopefully not a hype watch that sells for 4x retail.
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Old 15 September 2024, 04:22 AM   #3
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Will be interesting to see. I'm hoping for something refreshing and new- hopefully not a hype watch that sells for 4x retail.
IF it is indeed priced lower than the other sport models you can bet it'll go for at least 2-3x retail on secondary mkt if not more right out the gate
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Old 15 September 2024, 12:46 AM   #4
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Old 15 September 2024, 01:55 AM   #5
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Do we have a date when it's supposed to be unveiled & announced?
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Old 15 September 2024, 02:09 AM   #6
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Old 15 September 2024, 02:09 AM   #7
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Only a matter of time before we have some leaked images or more info.

Also how do we know the pricepoint being less than the aquanaut?
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Old 15 September 2024, 11:43 PM   #8
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Only a matter of time before we have some leaked images or more info.

Also how do we know the pricepoint being less than the aquanaut?
Want to not alienate new clients
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Old 16 September 2024, 12:41 AM   #9
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Want to not alienate new clients
Meaningless if they want hundreds of thousands of $$ in spend to even qualify.

We’ll see. Hopefully they actually are targeting new customers
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Old 16 September 2024, 12:46 AM   #10
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Meaningless if they want hundreds of thousands of $$ in spend to even qualify.

We’ll see. Hopefully they actually are targeting new customers
Very AD dependant
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Old 16 September 2024, 12:58 AM   #11
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Very AD dependant
Well if Patek doesn’t mandate any KPIs of the sort then nothing will change. It’s about incentives.

Is it AD dependent today? I don’t know of any cases of getting an aquanaut/nautilus as one’s first.
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Old 15 September 2024, 11:47 PM   #13
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I vaguely recall reading somewhere Stern said the main market demand for PPs was in the 30-40,000 range - Euros?

https://hypebeast.com/2019/5/patek-p...s-buying-guide

https://www.luxurybazaar.com/grey-ma...YUAtWQzI021gBh
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Old 16 September 2024, 02:59 PM   #14
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Someone has posted an invitation to the launch of PP’s new line- Cubitus. Some new pictures from the patent filed by PP have shown part of the appearance of Cubitus. Also the MRPS of Cubitus will be lower than Nautilus or Aquanaut.
I have searched and found several patent documents including those images. I think the image with the bezel is related to 5374/300P, not the new line, the essence of the patent being the integration of elements such as the indices to the bezel, there by simplifying the fabrication of the dial.

The image with the ring-like gear seems to be a huge column wheel of a chronograph. So at least this would not relate to the time-only base model of the new line.

The image which to me seems most likely to be related to the new line is the one with the quick-release pin of a strap, which would suit the concept of "convertible" written in the invitation.

Searching through recent patents by Patek, I have found one of a rotating bezel construction, which echoes the rumors that the new line is going to be diver's model.
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Old 16 September 2024, 04:43 PM   #15
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I have searched and found several patent documents including those images. I think the image with the bezel is related to 5374/300P, not the new line, the essence of the patent being the integration of elements such as the indices to the bezel, there by simplifying the fabrication of the dial.

The image with the ring-like gear seems to be a huge column wheel of a chronograph. So at least this would not relate to the time-only base model of the new line.

The image which to me seems most likely to be related to the new line is the one with the quick-release pin of a strap, which would suit the concept of "convertible" written in the invitation.

Searching through recent patents by Patek, I have found one of a rotating bezel construction, which echoes the rumors that the new line is going to be diver's model.
Thanks for the breakdown. A diver could also make sense after they "downgraded" all their other pieces to 30m only...
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Old 16 September 2024, 11:02 PM   #16
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It’s a collaboration, Aqua-Swatch or Nauti-Swatch:)
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Old 17 September 2024, 02:49 AM   #17
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Interesting. Good work internet sleuths!

The notion of Patek making a round diver is... interesting. Certainly does look like there could be a rotating bezel and an option changing straps without the use of tools.

What I will say: if Patek wades into this highly saturated area, I hope that it brings it. I imagine it may be difficult to stand out in a crowded field. Or, at a minimum, it could read as very uninspired. But who know, I hope that I am wowed. I do like the idea of a new line and one that is more accessibly priced.

One idea I had: it would cool if the watch had a button that would reset a bezel to zero. I imagine that would be super fun to play with.
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Old 17 September 2024, 03:25 AM   #18
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Ready to see the diver with 30m water resistance. It's alright, though, because my Patek AD is more resistant to sell me any piece I'd want than their sport watches ever could be water resistant!

Sorry, just had to throw it out there.
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Old 17 September 2024, 04:22 AM   #19
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I'm sure they will launch a nice product line and it will be just as hard to get as a Nautilus and Aquanaut anyways....
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Old 17 September 2024, 04:27 AM   #20
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Eh, as people mentioned, unavailability of sports models is a pretty recent phenomenon. I imagine, as time goes on, that will change. Market is softening and I imagine will continue to soften.
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Old 25 September 2024, 04:44 PM   #21
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My first Patek was a 5164a and I waited roughly 1.5 years for it, no other purchases at the AD. This was 2019.
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Old 7 October 2024, 11:46 PM   #22
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Ok. I am just going to put it out there (my speculative fantasy fun guess).

The new range will be a divers watch which looks big and sporty and will be a “basic” watch. Just like how customers buy a Royal Oak offshore as a first step to getting a Royal Oak. This new watch will be Patek’s ROO.

It may look bad. It may look ugly. Most of us will hate it. Many of us will buy it (to later get a nautilus). Some models will have diamond bezel, purchase that and u will instantly be promoted to the league of shadows.

There. I am right until I am wrong on the day of the release.
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Old 4 October 2024, 09:08 PM   #23
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Chris Hall at The Fourth Wheel purportedly has seen press images of the Cubitis and he believes we will be looking at “Code 11.59 levels of enthusiasm.” Leaks will be coming before too long methinks.
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Chris Hall at The Fourth Wheel purportedly has seen press images of the Cubitis and he believes we will be looking at “Code 11.59 levels of enthusiasm.” Leaks will be coming before too long methinks.

I assume that means limited to no enthusiasm?


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Old 5 October 2024, 01:02 AM   #26
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Would be so weird if that Nautilus-like green rectangular dial he is probably referring to actually was real. I can't imagine it but obviously could be very wrong.
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Old 5 October 2024, 01:04 AM   #27
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To be fair the Aquanaut and the Nautilus were both unpopular for a very long time. Wouldn’t be surprised if these pick up steam over time.
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Old 7 October 2024, 01:15 PM   #28
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To be fair the Aquanaut and the Nautilus were both unpopular for a very long time. Wouldn’t be surprised if these pick up steam over time.
AP keeps clinging to this rhetoric, yet the reality is that the code has not met expectations at best and damaged the brand at worst.
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Old 5 October 2024, 03:19 AM   #29
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That's what I was going to say @WatchEater666.

Many novelties got a cold welcome with very assertive opinions ("not the brand's DNA") that people have changed further down the road (the Nautilus being the most famous example but also the first days of the 5070, the 5975, the 5320G Creme, the 5212A, the 5226/5326 more recently). Same with the first days of the 5711 and 5976 Anniversary or the 5650.

Social media live from buzz and will have to over react.

To be successful the day it is unveiled it has to be similar to what exists (like for cars). I never liked the ROO but it is successful and that's perfect to me.
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It's a great idea to have alternatives to Calatrava's.

The July 2024 Hodinkee podcast on Calatrava's was pretty disparaging, basically calling them boring watches, and justifying it with the overall market demand and pricing (apart from a few specific models). If I want to cash out my Calatrava it's going to pay out about 65% of what I paid. -Good thing I enjoy wearing mine!

Still...it's not like you can buy one Calatrava or one Cubitus and then expect to have a 5167A ready for you any time soon for $24,750 USD.
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