Spend at Tourneau / Bucherer

[NavierStokes]

Hi,

I have a question I'm embarrassed to ask but if I have spent over $60,000 at the same Tourneau / Bucherer location and they happen to be an AD for Patek, Rolex, am I out of line to ask for a Pepsi or start a collection at Patek? I know I'm probably not one of the top spenders but wondering if $60,000 is considered a non-trivial amount. For what it's worth, I'm located in California, thank you!

[Fleetlord]

Unfortunately, considering both the AD and the location, $60K would not be adequate to achieve a Pepsi GMT. You may be allowed to purchase a Patek Reference of their offering..it certainly wouldn’t be anything you would request.

[colonelpurple]

All the assumed rules are about to change. There is more and more supply. Ask for what you want. I have bought 3 Rolexes from the same AD group, and many other watches. I haven’t asked for.a Daytona, but I have been offered everything else within 3 months

[melikewatches]

Originally Posted by colonelpurple

All the assumed rules are about to change. There is more and more supply. Ask for what you want. I have bought 3 Rolexes from the same AD group, and many other watches. I haven’t asked for.a Daytona, but I have been offered everything else within 3 months

"the same AD group".

Can you expand on that ? I've read that we are supposed to only deal with 1 SA from the same AD boutique and not inquire around at other boutiques from the same AD chain.

I am on the list at 1 WOS and 1 Bucherer. There are more than 6 different WOS and Bucherer boutiques in my area.

[NavierStokes]

Originally Posted by melikewatches

"the same AD group".

Can you expand on that ? I've read that we are supposed to only deal with 1 SA from the same AD boutique and not inquire around at other boutiques from the same AD chain.

I am on the list at 1 WOS and 1 Bucherer. There are more than 6 different WOS and Bucherer boutiques in my area.

Ah, sorry for the confusion, the Bucherer is the AD for Rolex, Patek and other brands, but they maintain two separate physical locations for the Rolex and Patek.

[colonelpurple]

Originally Posted by melikewatches

"the same AD group".

Can you expand on that ? I've read that we are supposed to only deal with 1 SA from the same AD boutique and not inquire around at other boutiques from the same AD chain.

I am on the list at 1 WOS and 1 Bucherer. There are more than 6 different WOS and Bucherer boutiques in my area.

Correct
However this is for expression of interest

If you see a non-exhibition piece at any dealer it’s fair game. Furthermore I find dealers offer me exhibition pieces more and more, even though I am on the list of a different ad in the group.

[NavierStokes]

Thanks much for your feedback and input, that's what I figured. When I go shopping for the Patek, do I need to mention my spend history proactively?

[drrd]

Originally Posted by NavierStokes

Thanks much for your feedback and input, that's what I figured. When I go shopping for the Patek, do I need to mention my spend history proactively?

Which Patek models are you planning to ask for?

[NavierStokes]

Originally Posted by drrd

Which Patek models are you planning to ask for?

For a first Patek, I'd love to get the 5524G

[Chrasmus]

Originally Posted by NavierStokes

For a first Patek, I'd love to get the 5524G

Considering the big discounts available for a used / like new 5524G, I would go that route - and using the money saved towards a Pepsi.

[4reRlxGuy]

Originally Posted by Chrasmus

Considering the big discounts available for a used / like new 5524G, I would go that route - and using the money saved towards a Pepsi.

This

You'll save around 30k going grey on the Patek. The $ saved can be used to get the Pepsi.

I like many have learned that playing the AD games are generally a losing proposition. ADs lose accounts, your SA leaves, ...

[Hemdog]

If you don't ask you don't get :)

[Rolexforthewin]

I’ve spent well under that amount at Tourneau and was offered a Pepsi. Go in and talk to them.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by NavierStokes

Hi,

I have a question I'm embarrassed to ask but if I have spent over $60,000 at the same Tourneau / Bucherer location and they happen to be an AD for Patek, Rolex, am I out of line to ask for a Pepsi or start a collection at Patek? I know I'm probably not one of the top spenders but wondering if $60,000 is considered a non-trivial amount. For what it's worth, I'm located in California, thank you!

God give me strength would you consider $60.000 non -trivial amount bet your AD is jumping up and down with glee to think that some would spend such a lot of money hopefully to get a certain watch.

[travisb]

Doesn't hurt to ask.

[Jimmy66]

Ask away. I purchased a Pepsi with half that level of spend. There is more supply than people realise. Remember, Rolex's are not scarce, in fact they are making more than ever. Also, the loony times are over. Less flippers. Less fomo'ers.

[1William]

Always ask. If you don't then you will not typically be offered one.

[Cassian739]

Yes, you should definitely be asking for what you want. As long as demand > supply it's not just about dollar spend, but also the relationship you have with your AD. Many people on this forum have purchased in demand watches with a lot less spend. And on the flipside, there are those that have spent a lot more than you that will probably not get allocated what they want.

[1665fan]

Doesn’t hurt to ask…..more like 150k spend for a pepsi

[Rollieplz]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Doesn’t hurt to ask…..more like 150k spend for a pepsi

Just spend $20k and get the Pepsi…..

[KatGirl]

Ask for whatever you want. There are no prespend rules, to get a certain watch, and there are ADs in CA who will sell you whatever you want, if they have availability. Remember, you are trying to give them your money, not the other way around. Some ADs get that concept.
Mine does.

Kat


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[ltmgeller]

That should put you on their radar. Do you have a single SA you use? They are the one who has to advocate for you. I have my purchase history with a Bucherer in NY and thats where I started getting the pieces I wanted. I also buy Jewlery and other brands from them too.

[SLWoodster]

I don't know about the Pepsi. I didn't get mine from there and i have spent more than you at Bucherer/Torneau. It would depend on your rep, if the manager knows you, then your overall spend across multiple product types in same brand or across their other brands. They gave me a batman and gold daytona (during the hype) during the times when I followed up for a Pepsi. My SA left a couple years ago and that relationship is pretty much dead.

Bucherer's Patek - they made it very clear on my last visit that a sports watch is NOT going to be a first watch or even second. LOL. The way the reps speak makes it sound like every sports Patek must have approval from Patek. But I recently found through discussion with their manager that is not the case. The majority of the sports models do not require approval from Patek, just 5811, some of the bejeweled pieces, and sometimes newer releases such as the calendar aquanaut.

If this is your moment to wonder if you should go grey, you should. Keep playing the game and just sell whatever they end up getting you.

Originally Posted by NavierStokes

Hi,

I have a question I'm embarrassed to ask but if I have spent over $60,000 at the same Tourneau / Bucherer location and they happen to be an AD for Patek, Rolex, am I out of line to ask for a Pepsi or start a collection at Patek? I know I'm probably not one of the top spenders but wondering if $60,000 is considered a non-trivial amount. For what it's worth, I'm located in California, thank you!

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by SLWoodster

I don't know about the Pepsi. I didn't get mine from there and i have spent more than you at Bucherer/Torneau. It would depend on your rep, if the manager knows you, then your overall spend across multiple product types in same brand or across their other brands. They gave me a batman and gold daytona (during the hype) during the times when I followed up for a Pepsi. My SA left a couple years ago and that relationship is pretty much dead.

Bucherer's Patek - they made it very clear on my last visit that a sports watch is NOT going to be a first watch or even second. LOL. The way the reps speak makes it sound like every sports Patek must have approval from Patek. But I recently found through discussion with their manager that is not the case. The majority of the sports models do not require approval from Patek, just 5811, some of the bejeweled pieces, and sometimes newer releases such as the calendar aquanaut.

If this is your moment to wonder if you should go grey, you should. Keep playing the game and just sell whatever they end up getting you.

This is a more realistic response.

[Jack T]

Originally Posted by NavierStokes

Hi,

I have a question I'm embarrassed to ask but if I have spent over $60,000 at the same Tourneau / Bucherer location and they happen to be an AD for Patek, Rolex, am I out of line to ask for a Pepsi or start a collection at Patek? I know I'm probably not one of the top spenders but wondering if $60,000 is considered a non-trivial amount. For what it's worth, I'm located in California, thank you!

I don’t know how any of the previous respondents to your post can say with any certainty what your chances are. It’s all speculation.

Go and ask, if not the SA then a manager, this is your goal, this is what you’ve spent, and get an answer.

Then weigh that vs the secondary market and the ability to have a watch on your wrist this week.

[GrailTime]

There is no spending threshold you have to hit. Anyone telling you otherwise it making it up.

Only this morning, i was watching a Teddy Baldassarre video where he and a pilot were going through his collection. His first and only Rolex was a Pepsi on Jubilee from an AD...

https://youtu.be/HWyIhQwxsgY?si=oqAQwaAvqK-GS6sr

His other watches were nothing special, so no huge spend history. Now, obviously, he is a pilot, so maybe they made an exception for him and this watch, but still, it goes to show there is no hard and fast rule.

My experience is that if your face fits, you get lucky and your seem the type that will be a good customer, they you may get lucky.

[SLWoodster]

Some will make an exception. If I were a rep, i would.

I received a couple green submariners as my first rolex from a couple dealers during the hype. I showed them my semi-pro license and most said they don't htink they have ever sold a submariner to an actual diver. LOL

Originally Posted by GrailTime

There is no spending threshold you have to hit. Anyone telling you otherwise it making it up.

Only this morning, i was watching a Teddy Baldassarre video where he and a pilot were going through his collection. His first and only Rolex was a Pepsi on Jubilee from an AD...

https://youtu.be/HWyIhQwxsgY?si=oqAQwaAvqK-GS6sr

His other watches were nothing special, so no huge spend history. Now, obviously, he is a pilot, so maybe they made an exception for him and this watch, but still, it goes to show there is no hard and fast rule.

My experience is that if your face fits, you get lucky and your seem the type that will be a good customer, they you may get lucky.

[RCC watches]

Originally Posted by NavierStokes

Hi,

I have a question I'm embarrassed to ask but if I have spent over $60,000 at the same Tourneau / Bucherer location and they happen to be an AD for Patek, Rolex, am I out of line to ask for a Pepsi or start a collection at Patek? I know I'm probably not one of the top spenders but wondering if $60,000 is considered a non-trivial amount. For what it's worth, I'm located in California, thank you!

In 2022 I got the green OP41 from the SF Rolex Tourneau on a random Friday evening visit in December. No prior history with that store or SA.

I don't think there is some hard/fast rule on spend history. Timing, luck, and the SA certainly play a big factor.

[codecow]

If you’re always using the same SA at the same door with that pre spend I suspect they’ll actually have you on a list to get a Pepsi eventually if you ask. Patek you should be able to buy a non-sports reference.

[brandrea]

Good luck OP, it’s a great reference