How long was your wait for your first SS Daytona at retail?

[Daytona king]

As the title states. How long was your wait to get a SS Daytona at retail. You can add your spend history on there as well if you would like.

I’m curious to see what the average wait was for these unicorns. Please state if you got the white or black dial. I know before the ceramic versions they were definitely easier to get. For me it was 4 months after requesting for the white dial.


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[DoricSpiker]

Got a call about a white dial 6 months after I registered my interest. I was in France on holiday though so couldn’t get it. Got another call 3 months later for a black dial, which is my favourite. So 9 months but I spend a fair bit of coin there.


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[kwingy]

5 years for the ceramic white dial 126 series.

[brandrea]

I was offered one in 2016 about 7 months after they were released at Basel. I passed

[zengineer]

Originally Posted by Daytona king

How long was your wait to get a SS Daytona at retail....

You can add your spend history on there as well

The first part without the second part is kinda meaningless trivia.

[Tim Plains]

Originally Posted by zengineer

The first part without the second part is kinda meaningless trivia.

Especially when he didn't include his own spend.

[Daytona king]

Originally Posted by Tim Plains

Especially when he didn't include his own spend.

My spend was over 6 figures over a few years.


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[enjoythemusic]

Actually i never asked, my AD offered it to me. This was some porcelain or ??? dial Daytona ~23 years ago. Fast-forward a decade or so and i guess the wait was 6 to 9 months.

Rolex Project 2029

[rolexnerd]

Doesn’t matter what other people waited as it doesn’t make any difference to your wait. Every AD has their own rules and VIP’s to cater too

[t65tampa]

No wait time. I stopped by the Rolex AD that was by my neighborhood. They had a stainless steel Daytona with black dial model 116520 that I liked. I bought it.

That was about 20 years ago.


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[RollingInTheDeep]

Originally Posted by t65tampa

No wait time. I stopped by the Rolex AD that was by my neighborhood. They had a stainless steel Daytona with black dial model 116520 that I liked. I bought it.

That was about 20 years ago.


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Yep - this was a different time for sure. I was in the Bahamas at some well known AD, I forgot the name, right near the port. There was a white dial Zenith 116520 literally sitting in the middle of the case and I thought it was such an awesome watch given it was a Rolex and had symmetric sub dials. I couldn't believe my ears back then when they told me it was $5k something

[btoolguy45]

Originally Posted by RollingInTheDeep

Yep - this was a different time for sure. I was in the Bahamas at some well known AD, I forgot the name, right near the port. There was a white dial Zenith 116520 literally sitting in the middle of the case and I thought it was such an awesome watch given it was a Rolex and had symmetric sub dials. I couldn't believe my ears back then when they told me it was $5k something

John Bull


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[Triggerfish]

I honestly believe there are a lot of people making stories up, you know, the type that love hype or making people think they achived something special. I see it all over the forum when it comes to hard to get items, not just watches. I'm not claiming anyone here is doing that, but you have to take internet posts/claims from people you don't know sometimes with a grain of salt. On top of that, there are a lot of contributing factors that may be the reason why some were offered a watch vs. not. In other words, this sampling is not a scientific result based on real world encounters for a random person. If you know someone at the store or have some type of favor, vs. just the person that buys a few things at the store and really wants one, the difference can be very far apart even though one obtained a watch while one did not. I think that some that buy grey also tell people they bought it from an AD.

I work with a group of people and most of us share in the passion for Rolex (and other brands) watches, so we all talk about our different experiences with our AD's both from our local area or areas where they visit or have lived previously, and every single person I talk to has been told that a Daytona is near impossible to get, and even with a sampling of about a dozen enthusiasts I know that have extensive spend histories with an AD, etc., not one has been offered a SS Daytona. And a lot of us find that the ones that have been told that "it's possible" have been told that "there's a 10 year wait and don't waste your time" by the same AD

Do I believe that there are random offerings of Daytona's to some? Sure. But I seem to come across more miracle stories than what, by the word of my AD's, are the norm (10 year wait, etc., etc.).

This should be an interesting thread!

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish

I honestly believe there are a lot of people making stories up, you know, the type that love hype or making people think they achived something special. I see it all over the forum when it comes to hard to get items, not just watches. I'm not claiming anyone here is doing that, but you have to take internet posts/claims from people you don't know sometimes with a grain of salt. On top of that, there are a lot of contributing factors that may be the reason why some were offered a watch vs. not. In other words, this sampling is not a scientific result based on real world encounters for a random person. If you know someone at the store or have some type of favor, vs. just the person that buys a few things at the store and really wants one, the difference can be very far apart even though one obtained a watch while one did not. I think that some that buy grey also tell people they bought it from an AD.

I work with a group of people and most of us share in the passion for Rolex (and other brands) watches, so we all talk about our different experiences with our AD's both from our local area or areas where they visit or have lived previously, and every single person I talk to has been told that a Daytona is near impossible to get, and even with a sampling of about a dozen enthusiasts I know that have extensive spend histories with an AD, etc., not one has been offered a SS Daytona. And a lot of us find that the ones that have been told that "it's possible" have been told that "there's a 10 year wait and don't waste your time" by the same AD

Do I believe that there are random offerings of Daytona's to some? Sure. But I seem to come across more miracle stories than what, by the word of my AD's, are the norm (10 year wait, etc., etc.).

This should be an interesting thread!

Well said! I think these ADs are unloading their hot inventory out the back door to the used dealers as a bundle.

The AD might let one or two hot models go to real clients after they drag them along for a full year of buying other high margin items


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[dnd2984]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish

I honestly believe there are a lot of people making stories up, you know, the type that love hype or making people think they achived something special. I see it all over the forum when it comes to hard to get items, not just watches. I'm not claiming anyone here is doing that, but you have to take internet posts/claims from people you don't know sometimes with a grain of salt. On top of that, there are a lot of contributing factors that may be the reason why some were offered a watch vs. not. In other words, this sampling is not a scientific result based on real world encounters for a random person. If you know someone at the store or have some type of favor, vs. just the person that buys a few things at the store and really wants one, the difference can be very far apart even though one obtained a watch while one did not. I think that some that buy grey also tell people they bought it from an AD.

I work with a group of people and most of us share in the passion for Rolex (and other brands) watches, so we all talk about our different experiences with our AD's both from our local area or areas where they visit or have lived previously, and every single person I talk to has been told that a Daytona is near impossible to get, and even with a sampling of about a dozen enthusiasts I know that have extensive spend histories with an AD, etc., not one has been offered a SS Daytona. And a lot of us find that the ones that have been told that "it's possible" have been told that "there's a 10 year wait and don't waste your time" by the same AD

Do I believe that there are random offerings of Daytona's to some? Sure. But I seem to come across more miracle stories than what, by the word of my AD's, are the norm (10 year wait, etc., etc.).

This should be an interesting thread!

This is true. I personally know 3 or 4 people that got SS Daytonas from my AD. All had a massive spend history well above 150k.

For a new collector or even seasoned you are better off going grey market.

[deeman54]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish

I honestly believe there are a lot of people making stories up, you know, the type that love hype or making people think they achived something special. I see it all over the forum when it comes to hard to get items, not just watches. I'm not claiming anyone here is doing that, but you have to take internet posts/claims from people you don't know sometimes with a grain of salt. On top of that, there are a lot of contributing factors that may be the reason why some were offered a watch vs. not. In other words, this sampling is not a scientific result based on real world encounters for a random person. If you know someone at the store or have some type of favor, vs. just the person that buys a few things at the store and really wants one, the difference can be very far apart even though one obtained a watch while one did not. I think that some that buy grey also tell people they bought it from an AD.

I work with a group of people and most of us share in the passion for Rolex (and other brands) watches, so we all talk about our different experiences with our AD's both from our local area or areas where they visit or have lived previously, and every single person I talk to has been told that a Daytona is near impossible to get, and even with a sampling of about a dozen enthusiasts I know that have extensive spend histories with an AD, etc., not one has been offered a SS Daytona. And a lot of us find that the ones that have been told that "it's possible" have been told that "there's a 10 year wait and don't waste your time" by the same AD

Do I believe that there are random offerings of Daytona's to some? Sure. But I seem to come across more miracle stories than what, by the word of my AD's, are the norm (10 year wait, etc., etc.).

This should be an interesting thread!

I agree with this post 100%. The post should have asked what’s your spend history vs how long it took you to get the call. That’s a better statistic.

[train-time]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish

I honestly believe there are a lot of people making stories up, you know, the type that love hype or making people think they achived something special. I see it all over the forum when it comes to hard to get items, not just watches. I'm not claiming anyone here is doing that, but you have to take internet posts/claims from people you don't know sometimes with a grain of salt. On top of that, there are a lot of contributing factors that may be the reason why some were offered a watch vs. not. In other words, this sampling is not a scientific result based on real world encounters for a random person. If you know someone at the store or have some type of favor, vs. just the person that buys a few things at the store and really wants one, the difference can be very far apart even though one obtained a watch while one did not. I think that some that buy grey also tell people they bought it from an AD.

I work with a group of people and most of us share in the passion for Rolex (and other brands) watches, so we all talk about our different experiences with our AD's both from our local area or areas where they visit or have lived previously, and every single person I talk to has been told that a Daytona is near impossible to get, and even with a sampling of about a dozen enthusiasts I know that have extensive spend histories with an AD, etc., not one has been offered a SS Daytona. And a lot of us find that the ones that have been told that "it's possible" have been told that "there's a 10 year wait and don't waste your time" by the same AD

Do I believe that there are random offerings of Daytona's to some? Sure. But I seem to come across more miracle stories than what, by the word of my AD's, are the norm (10 year wait, etc., etc.).

This should be an interesting thread!

Have to agree with you 100% on this and we are already seeing the BS about the instances of getting this piece so easily. The anonymity of sitting behind a keyboard makes getting one of the hardest to get pieces easily doable. Hey, it's the internet.

[MY-WATCH]

Originally Posted by Triggerfish

I honestly believe there are a lot of people making stories up, you know, the type that love hype or making people think they achived something special. I see it all over the forum when it comes to hard to get items, not just watches. I'm not claiming anyone here is doing that, but you have to take internet posts/claims from people you don't know sometimes with a grain of salt. On top of that, there are a lot of contributing factors that may be the reason why some were offered a watch vs. not. In other words, this sampling is not a scientific result based on real world encounters for a random person. If you know someone at the store or have some type of favor, vs. just the person that buys a few things at the store and really wants one, the difference can be very far apart even though one obtained a watch while one did not. I think that some that buy grey also tell people they bought it from an AD.

I work with a group of people and most of us share in the passion for Rolex (and other brands) watches, so we all talk about our different experiences with our AD's both from our local area or areas where they visit or have lived previously, and every single person I talk to has been told that a Daytona is near impossible to get, and even with a sampling of about a dozen enthusiasts I know that have extensive spend histories with an AD, etc., not one has been offered a SS Daytona. And a lot of us find that the ones that have been told that "it's possible" have been told that "there's a 10 year wait and don't waste your time" by the same AD

Do I believe that there are random offerings of Daytona's to some? Sure. But I seem to come across more miracle stories than what, by the word of my AD's, are the norm (10 year wait, etc., etc.).

This should be an interesting thread!

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[Gva1985]

2/3 years for black ceramic previous generation and 4 years for panda latest generation, two different ADs roughly similar spend history with 4/5 watches

[travisb]

About a week. I was also given the choice of either dial color.
This was at an AD that carried AP and I had already purchased 4 Offshores from them.

[Coronette]

YEARS and I still don’t have it.

[train-time]

Never happen at my local AD, not at retail - no way!

[Flex368]

I had a purchase history with my Rolex AD and I was promised to get a black dial Daytona within 12 months.

That was in 2016 and I've never got the call.

[Bavariandoc]

IMO, SS Daytonas are never given at retail to buyer bc it’s their turn on waiting list. Do not fool yourself, there are no lists, it’s an illusion created to get your hopes up and possibility of you spending $$ on unnecessary jewelry thinking it might speed up the process.

I have been reaching out to few ADs in area, calling/texting/emailing for years, no luck.

Finally, I got a chance to speak to sales people at 2 different ADs, great conversation and both had similar thing to say - store manager decides who gets it, period.
At first AD, store was part of casino, and they were strictly instructed those pieces are reserved for ‘whales’, big $$ gamblers.

At other AD, and I think this is more applicable across the board, those are offered to VIPs with recent large spends in store or potential future one, whichever store manager decide is more important for their future of business.

[majidessa]

Originally Posted by Bavariandoc

IMO, SS Daytonas are never given at retail to buyer bc it’s their turn on waiting list. Do not fool yourself, there are no lists, it’s an illusion created to get your hopes up and possibility of you spending $$ on unnecessary jewelry thinking it might speed up the process.

I have been reaching out to few ADs in area, calling/texting/emailing for years, no luck.

Finally, I got a chance to speak to sales people at 2 different ADs, great conversation and both had similar thing to say - store manager decides who gets it, period.
At first AD, store was part of casino, and they were strictly instructed those pieces are reserved for ‘whales’, big $$ gamblers.

At other AD, and I think this is more applicable across the board, those are offered to VIPs with recent large spends in store or potential future one, whichever store manager decide is more important for their future of business.

There are real lists and there fake ones too, an AD might receive 8 SS Daytonas per year (4 of each dial color) and he has 20 vip clients (& 80 normal clients) that are in list for one, will he be able to satisfy all his customers? No, so some might wait up to 12 months and other will wait longer depends where you are in the food chain ( spend histor, status, relationship history). The issue with SS Daytons not just the ADs but also Rolex, since production numbers are limited compared to other models, creating some sort of scarcity.

[Bavariandoc]

Originally Posted by majidessa

There are real lists and there fake ones too, an AD might receive 8 SS Daytonas per year (4 of each dial color) and he has 20 vip clients (& 80 normal clients) that are in list for one, will he be able to satisfy all his customers? No, so some might wait up to 12 months and other will wait longer depends where you are in the food chain ( spend histor, status, relationship history). The issue with SS Daytons not just the ADs but also Rolex, since production numbers are limited compared to other models, creating some sort of scarcity.

Great example and explanation here.

ADs usually offer SS Daytonas to their top VIPs based on number of watches they get. Top of the VIP list changes too based on spending habit and other factors.

If you do not get a call within a year, I’d say likelihood of getting one is extremely low.

[majidessa]

Originally Posted by Bavariandoc

Great example and explanation here.

ADs usually offer SS Daytonas to their top VIPs based on number of watches they get. Top of the VIP list changes too based on spending habit and other factors.

If you do not get a call within a year, I’d say likelihood of getting one is extremely low.

Not necessarily, it depends on the dial color, size of the AD in terms of allocations they get and size of their clients base, so each one might have a different mileage. I would say up to 24 months for vips, 24 to 60 months to other long time customers with smaller purchase history.

[WatchGuy1966]

I think about 20 months

[Mystro]

[Triggerfish]

If people are dropping $100K's at a jewelry store, do they really need a SS at retail? Sounds like the grey price would be "no problemo".