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24 February 2023, 05:53 PM | #2431 | |
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Glacier blue is a vibrant and bright shade of a beautiful baby blue. Carolina Blue, on the other hand, is a made up name to describe a distinctly dull and unimaginative mess of a color, befitting only of its basketball team and other sorry sports programs. There is no confusing these two very different shades. Buy with confidence... GTHC... And Go DUKE! |
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24 February 2023, 06:07 PM | #2432 | |
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I would, however, like to point out that the watchbox may have actually done you a huge solid by "setting the value" of your asset at $14k. Not to make light of your divorce, I've been through it too, but if you took a Czapek at "$14K" in the division of assets, you came out ahead on that one. Take the wins where you can! |
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24 February 2023, 07:23 PM | #2433 | |
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Sorry didn’t mean any offense. I was surprised about the question on what’s the difference between the two brands. Apples and oranges as others have said. FPJ is unique and even then it took about 25 years for his watches to have any resale value so yeah not particularly surprised about the offer you got on your Czapek. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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25 February 2023, 01:28 AM | #2434 |
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All fair points, the watches remained .. a house and a vehicle went instead. I was just surprised given the momentum Czapek seems to have. The 14k valuation wasn't accepted by the lawyers anyways and in the big picture it was small potatoes but figured I'd trim the watch and car collection to save other assets. They are definitely nicely built watches, very slim and delicate after a Rolex
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25 February 2023, 01:51 AM | #2435 | |
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25 February 2023, 02:04 AM | #2436 |
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Agreed I have an attachment to my watches... I know I'd regret selling the Czapek. I always think I could then I wind it and wear it for a day then realize how much I love it. It really is a beautiful watch. I still look at the movement every time before I put it on. I don't do that with my Pateks
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25 February 2023, 02:16 AM | #2437 | |
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Well, it’s quite surprising to me such low evaluation from Watchbox. They are serious, and it’s right that they lower the purchase price to preserve their margin, but the factual fair evaluation of Antarctiques in secondary mkt / auctions (based on numerous occurred trades) is much higher than 14 k.
Of course, the easiest and fastest way to monetize, often goes with a penalization of the price. Bottom line, the key point is the one you mentioned: Antarctique is a definitely nice built watch … so good it still stays in your hands! Quote:
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25 February 2023, 02:43 AM | #2438 |
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I would be curious if they change hands through chrono.. seems the same watches are on there for a long time. Granted the asks are crazy high. Either way.... glad to still have it
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25 February 2023, 02:57 AM | #2439 | |
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It’s hard to sell anything right now. Patek, AP,, Journe you name it. Liquidity is much lower than the last 3 years. With a niche product like czapek it would take some time to find a buyer no doubt if it’s anything like my experience trying to move my parmigiani Tonda pf micro.
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25 February 2023, 03:19 AM | #2440 |
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Which by the way is a fkn beautiful watch.
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25 February 2023, 04:23 AM | #2441 |
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I have no interest in selling my Czapek. And I frankly think that's one of the reasons for the secondary market cloudiness.
There is simply not enough Czapeks in circulation to have a good peg on the secondary value. There is also not a lot of people who even know about Czapek. Both are perfectly okay situations if you ask me. It's hard to price something where there is essentially no market for the watch. When I say "no market" I mean there is just a dearth of volume to accurately gauge a cost. I think this is more a function of people holding onto their Czapeks than trying to sell them or actively trying to offload them. |
25 February 2023, 10:53 AM | #2442 | |
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25 February 2023, 02:55 PM | #2443 |
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I had a pretty remarkable experience today. My local dealer is Jeremy Oster in Denver. Even though Boulder is only about 40 minutes away, I've been so busy that I haven't been able to visit with much regularity. I ordered an Antartique last year from him based on my internet research, but had never really seen a Czapek in person. In his shop, amongst other treasures, he had his own blue panda Cracovie, and one of the new generation Quai de Bergues (Emerald). My glacier blue had not been delivered, but he had one unit left of 20 of a special run he had done of an Antartique with silver stairway to heaven dial and blued steel hands and marker accents. I was frankly blown away by all three Czapek models. The Antartique was beyond my expectations when examined in person, and I purchased his limited edition which I favor over the light blue (reminds me of the Secret Alloy Cracovie, which I love). My basic message is that this company's designs are quite remarkable. I think any fears that this company is going to fade as more units are delivered are misplaced. I now want to get my hands on the new sapphire Quai de Bergues
FYI, Jeremy is the real deal re a shop owner with knowledge, service, and integrity. He has an excellent podcast called Keeping Time that is will worth a listen. He interviews many of the key players in the independent watch industry, and provided keen insights into collecting. There are at least two past episodes with Xavier, and new one will be upcoming soon. |
25 February 2023, 11:10 PM | #2444 | |
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Chrono24 is the opposite in that the seller has to deduct 6.5% from the price obtained. Regarding some of the points about the current market. I'm following it closely as I have an Antarctique on C24 just now. I'm pretty sure I saw 2 appear for sale from watchbox a couple of weeks ago and one sold quickly and from what I can deduce trade sales are selling, but private sales are struggling. I have had 4 offers, one of which was ridiculous and obviously not a serious offer. The others have been from out side the UK. But there is interest in the watch and I am seeing them sell; what did they sell for is another matter, but deals are being done. |
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26 February 2023, 02:58 AM | #2445 | |
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Yes Jeremy is all class. A reminder of what service should feel like on a luxury purchase.
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26 February 2023, 11:37 AM | #2446 |
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Received my watch after 16 months of waiting~~
12 with full Red Many thanks go to Mike for the help! |
26 February 2023, 02:29 PM | #2447 | |
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26 February 2023, 05:18 PM | #2448 |
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26 February 2023, 05:23 PM | #2449 |
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27 February 2023, 02:35 AM | #2451 |
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Congrats Allan.... Can't wait for mine... Soon I hope.
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27 February 2023, 11:01 AM | #2452 |
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Thanks for the kind compliments! Gentlemen~~
2 more better pic here ~~ |
27 February 2023, 11:28 AM | #2453 |
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Congrats! Enjoy it
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27 February 2023, 12:00 PM | #2454 |
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Cool salmon
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27 February 2023, 10:57 PM | #2455 |
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Wow full RED on salmon! That might be the only one... ! I wanted to do that, but wasn't sure if it would work. A little jealous.
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28 February 2023, 01:41 AM | #2456 |
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The red looks great, congrats!
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28 February 2023, 07:35 AM | #2457 |
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1 March 2023, 12:05 AM | #2458 |
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Has anyone had the chance to experience the rubber vs calfskin straps?
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3 March 2023, 03:07 AM | #2459 |
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Another Antartique Variant in the Wild...
Traded my glacier blue order for the Oster Jeweler's 20th Anniversary Spec. Very pleased...
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