Watchwinder question

[DJlove]

Received a wolf winder as a gift and rolex is recommended fir 650 turns per day bidirectional. Apparently bidirectional doubles the tpd so my question on the bottom was basically what setting to turn it to and they told me 1300 tpd was the answer. Not sure if i trust this. I called Wolf as well and they said the same thing



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[Rolexken]

I’ll be very interested to see how others answer this. My winder is set to bi-directional and it turns 30 times every 30 minutes first one way then the other so 60 turns per hour.

I have it on a timer switch running 0800 to 1800 so the watch gets 600tpd. This keeps both my “650tpd” Rolex watches running no problem.

I would set your winder to a low setting and see what happens - if your watch stops then increase the tpd. But very interested in other’s views.

[Rolexken]

I’ve always thought 650tpd bi directional meant 325 turns clockwise and 325 turns anti-clockwise not 650 turns each way but happy to learn otherwise.

[SilverStar]

Here is my interaction with Wolf:

Q. I ordered your WOLF 270102 Heritage Double Watch Winder after seeing great reviews. I own Tudor, Rolex and Longines watches and your website recommends 650 tbd bi-directional for all of them. I am trying to make sure I am using the correct setting and the information I came across on the internet is a little confusing. Can I use this winder with those watches or it over wind them? If so, is C the right setting for the rotation? Does the watch turn 1800 tbd or still 900 in that setting?

A.Thank you for contacting WOLF - I can certainly help you with this.

The Heritage model pairs perfectly with your timepiece collection if they are require 650 TPD Bidirectional. Your winder requires to be on the 'C' setting as it will double the number of turns per day to 1,800.

Let me know if you have additional questions.

It been almost 5 years and the watches have not exploded.

[OG1982]

Only watches I see benefit in using a winder would be a perpetual calendar.

Time and date watches take seconds to wind and set, and gives me a chance to properly interact with the mechanical marvel, before I strap it on and go about my day.


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[WilsdorfNDavis]

Originally Posted by OG1982

Only watches I see benefit in using a winder would be a perpetual calendar.

^^^This is the only correct answer when it comes to watch winders.

Originally Posted by OG1982

Time and date watches take seconds to wind and set, and gives me a chance to properly interact with the mechanical marvel, before I strap it on and go about my day.

If watch manufacturers felt you needed a watch winder they would insist you buy their branded watch winder with every purchase. Have you ever seen a Rolex, Patek, AP or Vacheron factory watch winder?
There's your answer.

[Tools]

Rolex says 650 turns to keep a watch wound, and it can be turned in either direction to wind it (bi-directional)

Typically you set a winder on the lowest setting, then if it stops while on the winder you set it up to the next setting.

[Rolexken]

This thread is asking about using winders, not whether to use them or not.

[Jack T]

A winder serves no purpose for me. I wear a watch or two for a week, then put it away for a month or two.

[daysky1]

If you have a watch Winder and you want to use it feel free it's not going to hurt your watch. I commend you for attempting to sort out which setting to use and being careful to make sure that you appropriately set it. Personally I have four wolf winders each one of them are a two watch Winder. Since I cleared out room in my safe I now have a large Shelf that's carpeted that I keep my watches on so my winders aren't being used at this time. I try to give all of my watches time on my wrist which negates the use of a Winder because I have more watches and I don't want to miss out on enjoying any one of my watches on my wrist. Maybe someday I'll start using my winders again but not today.

[Mystro]

650 TPD bi-directional is what I have used for over 30 years for my Rolex watches. Orbita was the brand for most of the time until I had a beautiful large customer multi head winder made. 800 TPD bi-directional is what most of my chronographs use including the Daytona.

Wont go into my TT Sub that ran non stop on a winder or wrist for 15 years constantly. At the 15 year mark I did a routine service, even though the watch didn’t need one and there were no additional wear on the movement reported by a well respected forum watchmaker that did the service. In fact he said the movement looked great inside.

[SkyDFan]

From ChatGPT:

If a watch winder is set to 650 turns per day (TPD) bi-directional, the actual number of turns per day is 650 TPD. Here’s why:

Definition of TPD:

TPD refers to the total number of rotations the winder performs in a 24-hour period, regardless of direction.

Bi-Directional Setting:

A bi-directional winder alternates between clockwise (CW) and counterclockwise (CCW) rotations.

For a 650 TPD bi-directional setting, the winder splits the 650 rotations between the two directions, typically with 325 turns clockwise and 325 turns counterclockwise.

Total Turns:

Since TPD measures the total turns (CW + CCW), the actual value remains 650 TPD, not 1,300 or double.

This setting is designed for watches that require winding in both directions. If you need further clarification or have a specific watch model in mind, feel free to ask!

[Andad]

Wow.

[Carguy87]

For my Rolex watches I’ve found 700 TPD on my wolf winders seem to be perfect.

[77T]

Ya know, on an average day, humans rotate their wrists thousands of times. Even a lethargic wearer performs activities like typing, writing, cooking.

So it's not the watch, it's the winder that will give out at the highest setting.


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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Andad

Wow.

I thought I was the only one

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by 77T

Ya know, on an average day, humans rotate their wrists thousands of times. Even a lethargic wearer performs activities like typing, writing, cooking.

So it's not the watch, it's the winder that will give out at the highest setting.


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Lethargic wearer here. My left wrist barely moves when I type, and not at all when I write. And my wife does most of the cooking. Luckily we have two dogs.

[padi56]

IMHO watch winders are a complete waste of money when most have two of the finest winders in the world called wrists.If not needed on the wrist just let it stop,when needed just wind reset must take all of 30 seconds to do.So unless you have lost the use of your fingers or hands,or have a watch with many many complications then one of these machine winder things totally unnecessary.

[TonyD]

Padi I love you like a brother but can we just replace you with a bot that answers all posts? Should be easy:

Watch winders are stupid and you are stupid for using one.

Watches are not an investment and you are stupid for investing in them.

Watch names are stupid and you are stupid for calling your watch Pepsi or Batman or Batgirl etc.

ADs are stupid and you shouldn't play their stupid games.

Buy what you like. You are stupid for buying a watch or jewelry that you don't need in order to obtain a grail.

That watch is likely fake. Buy the seller. You are stupid if you don't know everything about watches and fall for a scam.

Did I miss anything?

[502 to Right]

Originally Posted by OG1982

Only watches I see benefit in using a winder would be a perpetual calendar.

I would add a non-quickset date to list as well, assuming you like the date to be accurate on your watch when you wear it. Although these days most people do not have non-quickset date watches.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Much like a timeographer there are many ways to enjoy one’s watches that we don’t all appreciate equally. The important thing is to enjoy our watches.

[TonyD]

Many times I would bounce back and forth between 2 watches and leave one on a winder just in case. I tend to set mine by time.gov and keep them wound.

Make sure the pillow is secure though. I actually had one case where a watch fell forward and the crystal was dragged across the outer cover on the winder. I normally don't close the cover if I use one. No damage but some pillows are made poorly and don't snap into place.