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MBEECH · 29 June 2013, 04:31 PM

Hey all,

I recently purchased an automatic watch from a reputable 2nd hand dealer.When it arrived it seemed to be working perfectly and keeping great time. To be sure of its authenticity I took it to my local watchmaker, and he opened the back and confirmed the movement was real and original. Within an hour of him checking it out the watch completely died, as in it won't beat at all or start to keep time, even after winding it and wearing it. I've had automatics keep poor time but never stop completely and be unable to start again!! Does anyone know what could be the issue at hand? Did the watchmaker perhaps accidental upset the rotor or something? The dealer says the watch was serviced before he sent so it shouldn't need one already plus I've just never seen an auto act so bizarrely. Any insight would be appreciated!

tobmis01 · 30 June 2013, 01:12 AM

I'd say it is most likely related to the watchmaker and his procedure. It could be something as simple as a small piece of debris in the movement. Regardless, I'd take it back and have him (or someone else) take a look... It was within an hour so it's pretty easy to come to this conclusion. Take it back sooner rather than later - the longer you wait, the more easily fault can be reflected to you.

jolimont · 3 July 2013, 12:32 PM

probably something stuck in the movement?

Some dust your watchmaker dropped into the movement?

RolexDivers · 2 February 2014, 02:13 AM

Yes, it is called INVICTA!

MonBK · 2 February 2014, 02:19 AM

Yes

T. Ferguson · 2 February 2014, 03:02 AM

Not sure I get the question. Watches are machines and like all machines stop working occasionally. That's why there are watchmakers and repair shops. The RSC does more than clean and polish watches, they fix broken ones too.

I'd take it to a reputable watchmaker and have it looked at.

Cc1966 · 2 February 2014, 03:11 AM

When they really break...they stop!

Rags · 9 February 2014, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolexDivers

Yes, it is called INVICTA!

Oh boy wait till Adam sees that comment. He hates it when someone bashes Invicta..

Psmith · 9 February 2014, 10:08 PM

Had a 'mystery problem' with an auto ETA movement once - would run for an hour or so then stop. Could restart it, but would do the same again. I won't mention any names at all, but 4 attempts to fix it failed. In the end the entire movement was replaced, much to the credit of a certain company

dysondiver · 9 February 2014, 10:12 PM

watches either work , or they dont ,,, but like any other machine , they can be fixed.
sounds odd that it was an hour after it was open , but coincidence ,,, maybe.

dysondiver · 9 February 2014, 10:12 PM

watches either work , or they dont ,,, but like any other machine , they can be fixed.
sounds odd that it was an hour after it was open , but coincidence ,,, maybe.

robisan · 10 February 2014, 04:32 PM

As it was opened I guess some small part was misaligned or got stucked on the movement..

Alcan · 10 February 2014, 08:15 PM

Broken mainspring or balance?

beshannon · 11 February 2014, 01:31 AM

Yes

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 11 February 2014, 03:29 PM

Thats probably why it was for sale in the first place, old owner knew it had that problem and sold it or traded it to the store without telling anyone!

People do that with cars all the time

improviz · 23 February 2014, 02:55 AM

My Polar Exp II died on me last year with literally one month left on the factory warranty. RSC performed an overhaul and it was back up to snuff in no time. Happens to the best of 'em, it was NOS when I got it and oils had probably dried up somewhat, no gripes on this end.

joshuaray · 23 February 2014, 03:14 AM

Whats wrong with Invicta? they are pretty good for the price.

Cc1966 · 23 February 2014, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuaray

Whats wrong with Invicta? they are pretty good for the price.

Oh No Josh!!!! Don't open that can of worms again!!!

Do a search on "Invicta" here at TRF.

AJMarcus · 24 February 2014, 01:20 PM

Had a Breitling once that did that. Got a Rolex and never looked back

29 June 2013, 04:31 PM	#1
MBEECH "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal/MN Watch: Daytona WG 116509 Posts: 26	Anyone heard of a automatic watch that COMPLETELY stopped working? Hey all, I recently purchased an automatic watch from a reputable 2nd hand dealer.When it arrived it seemed to be working perfectly and keeping great time. To be sure of its authenticity I took it to my local watchmaker, and he opened the back and confirmed the movement was real and original. Within an hour of him checking it out the watch completely died, as in it won't beat at all or start to keep time, even after winding it and wearing it. I've had automatics keep poor time but never stop completely and be unable to start again!! Does anyone know what could be the issue at hand? Did the watchmaker perhaps accidental upset the rotor or something? The dealer says the watch was serviced before he sent so it shouldn't need one already plus I've just never seen an auto act so bizarrely. Any insight would be appreciated!

2 February 2014, 02:19 AM	#5
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	Anyone heard of a automatic watch that COMPLETELY stopped working? Yes

2 February 2014, 03:02 AM	#6
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	Not sure I get the question. Watches are machines and like all machines stop working occasionally. That's why there are watchmakers and repair shops. The RSC does more than clean and polish watches, they fix broken ones too. I'd take it to a reputable watchmaker and have it looked at. __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

2 February 2014, 03:11 AM	#7
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	When they really break...they stop! __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

9 February 2014, 10:08 PM	#9
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Had a 'mystery problem' with an auto ETA movement once - would run for an hour or so then stop. Could restart it, but would do the same again. I won't mention any names at all, but 4 attempts to fix it failed. In the end the entire movement was replaced, much to the credit of a certain company __________________

30 June 2013, 01:12 AM	#2
tobmis01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Tim Location: Lumberton, NC Watch: 116610 LN Posts: 51	I'd say it is most likely related to the watchmaker and his procedure. It could be something as simple as a small piece of debris in the movement. Regardless, I'd take it back and have him (or someone else) take a look... It was within an hour so it's pretty easy to come to this conclusion. Take it back sooner rather than later - the longer you wait, the more easily fault can be reflected to you.

3 July 2013, 12:32 PM	#3
jolimont "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Will Location: land of oz Watch: sundial Posts: 2,219	probably something stuck in the movement? Some dust your watchmaker dropped into the movement?

2 February 2014, 02:13 AM	#4
RolexDivers Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: BIG BEAR, CA Posts: 1,468	Yes, it is called INVICTA!

9 February 2014, 10:12 PM	#10
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	watches either work , or they dont ,,, but like any other machine , they can be fixed. sounds odd that it was an hour after it was open , but coincidence ,,, maybe.

10 February 2014, 04:32 PM	#12
robisan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: PH Posts: 545	As it was opened I guess some small part was misaligned or got stucked on the movement..

10 February 2014, 08:15 PM	#13
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Broken mainspring or balance? __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

11 February 2014, 01:31 AM	#14
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Yes __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

11 February 2014, 03:29 PM	#15
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	Thats probably why it was for sale in the first place, old owner knew it had that problem and sold it or traded it to the store without telling anyone! People do that with cars all the time __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

23 February 2014, 02:55 AM	#16
improviz "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: your step Posts: 2,806	My Polar Exp II died on me last year with literally one month left on the factory warranty. RSC performed an overhaul and it was back up to snuff in no time. Happens to the best of 'em, it was NOS when I got it and oils had probably dried up somewhat, no gripes on this end. __________________ 116520 white; 16613 black; 116710; 16570 polar; 16600. AP 15400; 15703. Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Glashutte Sport Evo GMT. Omega Planet Ocean 2907.50.91; Planet Ocean Liquidmetal LE 222.30.42.20.01.001; Seamaster 2255.80.00. Breitling Crosswind, white. Panerai PAM 005. VC Overseas Chrono, black.

23 February 2014, 03:14 AM	#17
joshuaray "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Josh Location: Corpus Christi,TX Watch: Sub / Planet Ocean Posts: 184	Whats wrong with Invicta? they are pretty good for the price. __________________ Lightning from the Sky, Thunder from the Sea!

24 February 2014, 01:20 PM	#19
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,236	Had a Breitling once that did that. Got a Rolex and never looked back

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