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|  19 March 2014, 10:53 PM | #1 | 
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				The quintessential Luminor?
			 
			
			Hey guis.  I'm still relatively new to Panerai, but I’m fascinated by the history of the brand.  Already picked up a 210, but am now looking to acquire a Luminor. So I’d love to hear suggestions on which models best represent the “Panerai DNA.” At this point, I’m open to current, discontinued, or special edition models, and am focused on 44mm cases given my relatively small wrist size (6.5”). Looking forward to your suggestions. Thanks! 
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|  20 March 2014, 12:58 AM | #2 | 
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			For some reason to me, 44mm luminors look better with a second hand and painted.  Many will disagree. 47mm luminors look better sandwich. For me it has to do with the size of the numbers. That is why the radiomirs (like you 210) look better sandwich, b/c the numbers are bigger. So, 111e,f,g, 1, etc for me. I have a 111g. Sold my 210 for a 232. I also have a 6.5" wrist. Great combo... 210/111g  Here is a pic for compare of sandwich v painted.   
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|  20 March 2014, 01:44 AM | #3 | 
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			Not surprisingly, mik nailed it 100%.    Of ones that are not too hard to find and considering your 210 has 2 hands, I would say 111G (steel/black dial) or 118 (titanium/tobacco dial). If you want a new one, 005. If I had your 210, I would go for the 118 in this case. Good luck with your choice!      Some pix (none are mine, sadly): 111G   118   005     | 
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|  20 March 2014, 02:58 AM | #4 | 
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			I would either go for Zero or 112. I love base dials, jsut looks so balanced without the seconds dial. Having said that I wear my 392 alot, but that isnt a quinntessential pam.  I love my 176 because it gives off that "toolish" look with the matt brushed ti finish. 
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|  20 March 2014, 06:32 AM | #5 | 
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			Methinks 111!
		 
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|  20 March 2014, 09:32 AM | #6 | 
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			I am in Mik's camp!   | 
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|  22 March 2014, 08:38 PM | #7 | 
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			I'm not concerned with 'DNA'.  For me, the quintessential Luminor is the 111 with sandwich dial - or the 510 if you want an in-house movement (and are OK with the extra dial text).  But any Marina is a cool watch    . . 
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|  22 March 2014, 10:01 PM | #8 | 
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			312 is the daddy!
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|  22 March 2014, 10:24 PM | #9 | 
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|  23 March 2014, 10:01 AM | #10 | 
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So am I and Mik's as well as this fantastic photo tells the whole story behind the why...   111G with strap Quick-Change function =    
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|  23 March 2014, 03:18 PM | #11 | 
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			Let's not forget the white dials...   | 
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|  23 March 2014, 07:58 PM | #12 | 
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			^nice shot! Jack, I've been studying up on all possible post-V base and marinas that have otherwise no additional complications. Here's the list: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=338110 Many have suggested the ... PAM390 - Luminor base, brown dial, gold hands, Ecru, pig on case-back (BE) ... is missing from the list. 
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|  23 March 2014, 11:20 PM | #13 | 
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Thanks for the quote, but I never said 111G has a quick change system.  I like screws!!!!  The strap change system scares me.  If the system goes bad, they have to replace the case!?!?!?!?!  Seems like a horrible design to me.  Not the quick system, but the fact they have to replace the entire case!  They need a system that is replaceable, after all we are doing with moving metal pieces which can wear out or mis perform if not perfectly machined to start with.
		 
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 OP: I would either the 111 or 372 for a Luminor. I love them on my 6.5" wrist. | |
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|  24 March 2014, 01:21 AM | #15 | |
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  The safest solution (for the case) is still the spring-bar. No threads to strip, no quick-change system that just might go south on you, etc. Having said that, I prefer the quick-change over the screw bar (now finally having both). I understand that there was a period where Panerai had bars with independent screws (on both sides) - very tedious since you need two screwdrivers etc. but the case will never be in danger. Just as long as the screws are tight...  otherwise the case will be in danger, once it hits the pavement or other hard surface as the watch frees itself form your wrist...   
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|  24 March 2014, 01:52 AM | #16 | 
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			Thanks for all the suggestions guys!  Ended up getting a 510.  Just liked the combination of the clean dial with the in-house 8-day movement.
		 
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|  24 March 2014, 03:14 AM | #17 | 
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			Congrats on the new 510!     | 
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|  24 March 2014, 03:26 AM | #18 | 
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			Great choice ! Congrats and enjoy     | 
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|  24 March 2014, 03:45 AM | #20 | 
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What about the second-hand... ? The 510 is also a Marina...    
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|  24 March 2014, 09:53 AM | #22 | 
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			Congrats!
		 
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|  24 March 2014, 06:07 PM | #23 | 
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i think the screw bar system is the most reliable system. it is also the simplest and most traditional. the most common problem(yet highly improbable) would probably be rethreading on the lugs.
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|  25 March 2014, 09:24 AM | #24 | 
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			Congrats on the 510     
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