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Old 27 January 2016, 02:58 AM   #61
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Old 27 January 2016, 04:10 AM   #62
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Get the AP Diver, especially if you've never owned an AP. This is your chance to experience it for yourself rather than listening to us. If you end up loving it, it's a win; if you hate it, flip it with minimal loss especially if you get it from a trusted seller here.


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Old 27 January 2016, 05:47 AM   #63
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I had the LV, and didn't love it, as well not a big fan of your 2 other pieces, if you can handle the weight theWG Rolex sub is awesome, if not then AP diver though the FC and CE blow away the SS in my book, the ceramic is definitely worth adding the extra cash, it's awesome...
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Old 27 January 2016, 06:52 AM   #64
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I have one AP and likely getting a second. Funny is the YM II was the other piece I was considering up until recent. I like it but came in second for me :)
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Old 27 January 2016, 02:29 PM   #65
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Old 28 January 2016, 10:47 PM   #66
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I've handled both.

I would most definitely keep the YMII!!!!!!
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Old 29 January 2016, 12:19 AM   #67
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Is selling the 116610LV and putting the extra to it for the ROO, an option?
Retaining the 80 and adding 15710 is an example of having your cake and eating it.
Whilst the Tudor is no Hulk, it’d do the job of daily beater/carefree duty, letting you enjoy the AP and YM on occasions where you’re less likely to mark them.

As a bit of a tempter…https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig...-id4075234.htm
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Old 29 January 2016, 01:08 AM   #68
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Tough tough call.

I love the YM 2. I like that AP as well.

But I've seen you post about ur enjoyment of the YM on many threads.

Don't ruin a good thing. Keep it.
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YMII for a 15400, maybe, but not that diver. Keep the YMII and add the RO.
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Is selling the 116610LV and putting the extra to it for the ROO, an option?
Retaining the 80 and adding 15710 is an example of having your cake and eating it.
Whilst the Tudor is no Hulk, it’d do the job of daily beater/carefree duty, letting you enjoy the AP and YM on occasions where you’re less likely to mark them.

As a bit of a tempter…https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig...-id4075234.htm
I like either of these two ideas.
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Old 29 January 2016, 03:48 PM   #69
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Old 30 January 2016, 02:08 AM   #70
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Brand to brand...I'll go with AP all day, any day
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Old 1 February 2016, 03:39 AM   #71
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I heard on the internet that the moon was made of cheese, so it must be true!

Reality - ask AP owners how reliable their watches are and what they have paid for service, rather than believing unsubstantiated crap likely from someone who has never owned an AP. Mine btw. has been 100% reliable from Day 1. You can also call AP directly and ask them what they charge for servicing. Now there's a novel thought...
My goal in life is now to find a way to get myself to the moon. If the internets said its true, it must be true.

In this case, i'm going AP. It's just on a different level.

AP is like dating the hottest/wildest girl in school whereas the Rolex is like the girl you eventually marry. Judging by your collection, you already have 2 good ol' reliable 'wives,' now its time to reacquaint yourself with the wild side!
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Old 1 February 2016, 04:29 AM   #72
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YM! I had the AP Diver, lasted 2-3 months. Beautiful watch, but truly a scratch magnet. I wear my PM GMT with less worry. Hated having to be so cautious with the watch, but I admit to being a bit anal about scratches on watches. Also, the lack of practical functionality with inner ring bothered me...and I don't dive! Then again, who uses the YM's countdown?
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Old 1 February 2016, 07:08 AM   #73
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YM! I had the AP Diver, lasted 2-3 months. Beautiful watch, but truly a scratch magnet. I wear my PM GMT with less worry. Hated having to be so cautious with the watch, but I admit to being a bit anal about scratches on watches. Also, the lack of practical functionality with inner ring bothered me...and I don't dive! Then again, who uses the YM's countdown?
Guilty!
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Old 1 February 2016, 07:22 AM   #74
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Old 1 February 2016, 09:13 AM   #75
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For the ceramic Diver, yes. Otherwise, for me, personally, YMII feels more "special" than the SS Diver.
I would agree with this as well
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Old 2 February 2016, 09:17 AM   #76
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Old 3 February 2016, 12:12 PM   #77
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i would go for a higher end watch before PM then add the PM later
No. Stay w the Rolex in this scenario.
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Old 4 February 2016, 01:50 AM   #78
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ROO vs YMII

Hey all,

First off just want to thank you all for your contributions to this thread! I apologize for lack of participation. Normally I'm very active especially in my own threads, but lately "the real world" has been bleeding into my hobby time too much.

So next question:

The YMII vs AP Diver topic seems to be filled with rich arguments on both sides. It kind of seems to be split down the middle. I'm tempted to start a new thread, but for now let's see what kind of response this gets. Many have said... 'Royal Oak Offshore vs. Yacht-Master II? That's a different story!', and of course that got me thinking.

So now I propose the question for you all... How about it?

Royal Oak Offshore vs. Yacht-Master II

I have my eye on the Gray Themes Chronograph.
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Old 4 February 2016, 07:31 AM   #79
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Quit torturing yourself, get the Diver and be done with it – dilemma sorted and you can just get on with enjoying the new acquisition.
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Old 4 February 2016, 07:34 AM   #80
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if youre considering putting up the ym on the chopping block, its probably not for you. flip it and try the diver, see where that takes you.
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Old 4 February 2016, 05:29 PM   #81
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How about the new diver chrono in blue it's the conservative version of all the colors they released 😉


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Old 4 February 2016, 11:13 PM   #82
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Quit torturing yourself, get the Diver and be done with it – dilemma sorted and you can just get on with enjoying the new acquisition.
There's no torture here. This is the fun part. Without the anticipation the acquisition would be boring.
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Old 4 February 2016, 11:18 PM   #83
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if youre considering putting up the ym on the chopping block, its probably not for you. flip it and try the diver, see where that takes you.
It's obviously a tough call. I really love the YM2. I wish I could afford to keep both. I think they'd make strong counter parts in a collection. so that brings be to this point.

What's your opinion on the Chronograph vs the diver?
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Old 4 February 2016, 11:23 PM   #84
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Thanks for the idea! I actually love the black diver as is. Clean and simple.

Color wise the gray chronograph offshore is really singing to me lately.
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Old 5 February 2016, 12:09 AM   #85
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It's obviously a tough call. I really love the YM2. I wish I could afford to keep both. I think they'd make strong counter parts in a collection. so that brings be to this point.

What's your opinion on the Chronograph vs the diver?
I prefer the chrono but I would go for the black / red. Looks amazing on the bracelet. Look for Sam's pictures on the which AP are you wearing today thread.
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Old 5 February 2016, 01:57 AM   #86
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There's no torture here. This is the fun part. Without the anticipation the acquisition would be boring.
Well that’s a relief, but you never responded to my previous comment – http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....3&postcount=67
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Old 5 February 2016, 02:30 AM   #87
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Is selling the 116610LV and putting the extra to it for the ROO, an option?
Retaining the 80 and adding 15710 is an example of having your cake and eating it.
Whilst the Tudor is no Hulk, it’d do the job of daily beater/carefree duty, letting you enjoy the AP and YM on occasions where you’re less likely to mark them.

As a bit of a tempter…https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig...-id4075234.htm


Interesting idea, thanks! It's crossed my mind because, as you can tell
I will have a really tough time parting with the YM2. but despite the Hulk and 15710 both being "divers", to me there's no replacing a Submariner. It's by far my favorite and best all around watch, IMO.
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Old 5 February 2016, 03:03 AM   #88
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Perhaps, but then you could argue that that makes the Tudor redundant.
Alternatively, as I said, the Tudor would do rightly for Hulk duties, albeit not so colourfully, which then allows you to enjoy the AP, as well as the YM II.
In my mind, that’s a complete win-win scenario, and the most obvious answer to the dilemma.
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Old 5 February 2016, 06:28 AM   #89
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Perhaps, but then you could argue that that makes the Tudor redundant.
Alternatively, as I said, the Tudor would do rightly for Hulk duties, albeit not so colourfully, which then allows you to enjoy the AP, as well as the YM II.
In my mind, that’s a complete win-win scenario, and the most obvious answer to the dilemma.
ok ok, I'm with you. It's on my mind now. Not sure id you simplified things or made things more complicated for me now ;) but I appreciate the insight!

It is a good idea especially while looking at all watches involved as a collection. Only aspect that really kind of ruins things is that the trade value of my YMII will be significantly higher than my LVC. But if I abandon the idea of the ROO and go back to the diver, it becomes slightly more attainable.
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Old 5 February 2016, 06:33 AM   #90
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I would buy a PM watch and skip the whole trade from one SS watch to another. Honestly i dont think i could ever buy another SS watch again. Im ruined for life. I keep one SS watch for casual work and hopefully the rest of my collection will soon be all PM model watches.
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