Lange Odysseus vs Vacheron Overseas

[AlyRba]

Based on the comments in this and the Patek forum, it is safe to say that Nautilus, Royal Oak, and even the Aquanaut remain the leaders in the luxury sports watch segment as far as desirability is concerned.

However, what will be your pick between Lange Odysseus and Vacheron Overseas date-only model and why?

[Fat_ninja]

I prefer the VCO but not the date model

[agentmeister5]

I'd go with the Overseas. It has a better overall look and is priced better. The blue and black dials have gained in popularity and holding their values better now too.

[WatchEater666]

The Vacheron but personally would rather go with a Royal Oak in that price range.

[GB-man]

vc

[_speedmaster_]

Vacheron. Although likely not finished to the same standard, the VC offers better value and is more aesthetically pleasing to me.
Also, I'm kind of sick of blue dialed sports watches and the brown dial overseas is awesome.

[RHJ]

VC without no doubt

[AK797]

I'd go VC now but when the Lange chrono comes out that will be something special as ever, hope a slim rubber strap is available by then.

[supersam80]

VC everyday. I'm actually thinking of selling my gmt to fund a date only overseas to pair with my roc

[ts3]

Not interested in either. If there were no other options and I had to pick one it would be the VC. I really like the 222 though but am not ready to pay up.

[Roger Lococco]

2nd gen VC Chrono :)


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[jtli202]

Not really a fair comparison as the Lange just came out and people have yet to really see it in person yet, nor are there that many photos around.

That being said, based on pictures and videos of the Lange alone, VC blue dial. Keep in mind that this is the 3rd generation of the overseas. I would take the Lange over the 1st and 2nd gen VC's ez

[tommy67]

I would pick the Lange Odysseus.

[ap1]

Vc

[MichaelFlash]

VC for now (chrono), may change opinion if I get to try on the Lange.

[GoingPlaces]

VC easy. I just can’t get past the Lange bracelet.


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[mps354]

Lange for me, can’t stand the vc bezel

[Jace]

I own the overseas. I don’t see selling it anytime in the near future.


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[TJMike]

VC and Lange are my two favorite brands. The Overseas is a much better watch and it is also a lot less expensive. An easy choice.

[Watcheroo]

The Lange is a lot more unique. I’ve always wanted to like the VC but never pulled the trigger. I can see myself getting the Odysseus, though...

[cascavel]

Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

VC easy. I just can’t get past the Lange bracelet.


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This is funny because, for years, the knock on the Overseas was that everyone hated the bracelet and then when VC put the Overseas on a rubber strap people switched to hating the bezel.

[Rolex Essex]

I want to like the VCO but the bezel design puts me off.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by cascavel

This is funny because, for years, the knock on the Overseas was that everyone hated the bracelet and then when VC put the Overseas on a rubber strap people switched to hating the bezel.

But that is fair enough, the Nautilus and RO with their rounded Octagon and Octagon shapes are also not for everyone, and before the hype lots of people were openly disparaging, altho when the price goes thru the roof it is amazing how many people's issues fall away. If Lange had priced this at $21K and the resale went straight to $27K you would have the same affect.

[ROGERB]

I think that the Lange would show way better on a different(rubber/leather) strap. And you know someone will stick it on a $20.00 Nato
Having said that I voted VC
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[locutus49]

I prefer the VC but would buy the Lange, throw it in the safe, and five years later sell it at a premium. Five years should be enough time for public opinion to do a 180, like it did with the Hulk (at first despised, then suddenly beloved).

[ts3]

Originally Posted by locutus49

I prefer the VC but would buy the Lange, throw it in the safe, and five years later sell it at a premium. Five years should be enough time for public opinion to do a 180, like it did with the Hulk (at first despised, then suddenly beloved).

180s in the public opinion do happen but they are certainly not the norm, most dogs... remain just dogs. This Lange has issues while the Submariner had been a long-time favorite coming in a new color.

I certainly don't expect a 180 in this case, but the new Lange may still end up trading at a premium 5 years from now if they make it scarce enough.

You got a Code 11:59 in the safe to play the same game? I am joking...

[cascavel]

Originally Posted by AK797

But that is fair enough, the Nautilus and RO with their rounded Octagon and Octagon shapes are also not for everyone, and before the hype lots of people were openly disparaging, altho when the price goes thru the roof it is amazing how many people's issues fall away. If Lange had priced this at $21K and the resale went straight to $27K you would have the same affect.

You make an excellent point about the design of the Nautilus and RO but as far as the price of the Odysseus is concerned, isn't it already cheaper than the Aquanaut, Nautilus, 15202 and Chronometre Bleu since they are really only available in the secondary market?
Comparing the Odysseus to the VCO is a waste since the VCO has been a dog, in terms of popularity, it's entire existence.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by cascavel

You make an excellent point about the design of the Nautilus and RO but as far as the price of the Odysseus is concerned, isn't it already cheaper than the Aquanaut, Nautilus, 15202 and Chronometre Bleu since they are really only available in the secondary market?
Comparing the Odysseus to the VCO is a waste since the VCO has been a dog, in terms of popularity, it's entire existence.

I was thinking they should have priced this more like the pilot 5522, low price limited release, and used that as a template, or at least priced this a few grand under the Nautilus. People want value now, even with HH brands, they won't pay a high retail for this just because those others are unavailable now, every piece is judged on its own merits/value potential.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by locutus49

I prefer the VC but would buy the Lange, throw it in the safe, and five years later sell it at a premium. Five years should be enough time for public opinion to do a 180, like it did with the Hulk (at first despised, then suddenly beloved).

I would be SHOCKED if this sold for a premium in 5 years . I expect pre owned prices to settle around $22k at that point


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[TJMike]

[QUOTE=cascavel;10086095]You make an excellent point about the design of the Nautilus and RO but as far as the price of the Odysseus is concerned, isn't it already cheaper than the Aquanaut, Nautilus, 15202 and Chronometre Bleu since they are really only available in the secondary market?
Comparing the Odysseus to the VCO is a waste since the VCO has been a dog, in terms of popularity, it's entire existence.[/QUOTE]

It is amazing how people can sprout total BS. The Overseas is actually selling incredibly well after an admittedly slow start. People at VC and as well as Richemont are very happy with how the watch is performing.