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Old 13 January 2020, 08:04 AM   #31
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'My' short answer is No X 4. Don't rush it, take a little more time. It doesn't sound like you really want it anyway.

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Old 13 January 2020, 08:15 AM   #32
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If you’re just starting your career both watches are too expensive now unless you’re well above 6 figures annually. Save longer and really think about what you want. Just my opinion
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:15 AM   #33
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The Root Beer is a more interesting piece. The Sub is a classic, but they are everywhere. If you want something to mark a milestone, go for the different piece, get the Root Beer.
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:21 AM   #34
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don't buy a watch that doesn't sing to you
it will cost you more in the long run
all my watches i can't stand to take off
you've had a lot of good advice
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:27 AM   #35
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I’d avoid a normal sub as I’d hazard a guess that the majority of them you see are fakes

The root beer is far rarer and I’d jump on it
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:29 AM   #36
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Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.

A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).

If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:31 AM   #37
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I would take the offer!
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:37 AM   #38
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If you’re just buying into the brand for peer recognition then the two tone would get spotted more readily.
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:39 AM   #39
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Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.

A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).

If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?
I think the real question is removing hype, removing any watches in front of you currently, removing whatever people here tell you, what would you actually like to wear?

If you’re set on Rolex, that’s fine but don’t try and cognitively rationalize a purchase for a Rolex - it’s an irrational non-essential luxury item. Most here buy because they like it (not all...) but it’s very easy to get sucked into hype and end up buying something based on what others think you should have.

For reference, I have a two tone datejust - far from a “hot” Instagram model, but I wouldn’t trade it for any Daytona/Pepsi/etc because I bought it because I liked it best. Will it hold value? Reasonably, and certainly not to the extent that a Daytona would, but frankly I don’t care because it’s not going to be up for sale. Is the gold worth it? Strictly speaking the extra cost for the two tone model is more than the price of gold (so no not “worth” it’s cost in gold), but to me personally I put “worth” on it because the extra cost gets me what I wanted.
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:41 AM   #40
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The root beer is an amazing watch.

If it’s going to be your only Rolex for a while I wouldn’t buy it and stay focused on the Sub.
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:47 AM   #41
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Take it, never look the gift horse in the mouth! Seems like you have an opportunity to obtain a unique piece in a sea of not very many opportunities. Seriously, you cant go wrong...Good luck!!!

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Old 13 January 2020, 09:01 AM   #42
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The root beer GMT is a beautiful watch. It's also quite different from a steel submariner. Only you can decide if it will satiate your craving for a sub or not.

I laugh at the people on here saying no one respects a sub. The sub is still the King of Rolex. It's the brand's most iconic watch. Too much time spent on internet forums, I think.

If I could only have one Rolex, or one watch for that matter, it'd be a steel black dial sub date. No pepsi, daytona, batman, hulk, etc (and I love all those watches), gimme a good ol' sub!
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:03 AM   #43
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Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.



A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).



If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?
You answered your own question. Forget about the hype and other BS. If you like it, BUY IT.

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Old 13 January 2020, 09:05 AM   #44
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if the root beer sings /talks to you etc
then its settled
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:11 AM   #45
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Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.

A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).

If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?
I think you just answered you own question again!

If what you say applied to my situation I would be a CHNR owner in the very near future.

As it happens, I should be. I love this watch. I think it's the equal most stylish and visually clever TT watch Rolex make, along with the Blusey. Mine should be along any month now.

All the best with it.
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:12 AM   #46
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So many good posts with great advice here. Nothing more to add really - other than to affirm, “buy the watch that sings to you” If you fall in love with the CHNR after trying it on buy regardless (assuming you can afford it). Otherwise, pass and wait for the SS Sub.

I walked away from a CHNR and SS Skydweller a few weeks ago because neither appeals to me and I wouldn’t want to buy a watch just because it’s hard to find / get when I know the AD has a long list of guys who REALLY want those watches. (and I would never consider flipping!).
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:13 AM   #47
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I would buy a CHNR over a sub any day of the week, I have a LN version and its an absolutely fantastic bit of kit, I love it!
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:18 AM   #48
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If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?
I think that the TT black GMT and the TT black Sub Date are the best looking watch "look" that Rolex ever produced; I have both.

If you do lean towards the chocolate version GMT, nobody is going to question your decision, plenty here have chosen this watch over others.

Most folks give opinion that is their preference, not yours.
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:21 AM   #49
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The root beer is an amazing watch.

If it’s going to be your only Rolex for a while I wouldn’t buy it and stay focused on the Sub.
If it's good, why not have it as my only Rolex for a while?
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:37 AM   #50
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HELP! Rolex newbie who got a call from the AD for a watch, not sure if I should pull

The modern GMT Root Beer is rose gold and stainless steel. That is a lot of cash to spend on a watch that mighy not be likely suitable for everyday wear unless you will.

If you really like the Root Beer (regardless if you like it as an everyday watch) why not go for a 2-tone SS / YG 16713 with the brown dial? That resembles the original and more iconic Root Beer that Clint Eastwood help make popular. 16713s from the early 2000s go for less than $10k USD. Save a ton of cash.

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Old 13 January 2020, 09:38 AM   #51
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Right now everything is hot but historically TT does not hold value well, keep that in mind.

That being said, the sub is the s-class of watches. Youre paying alot to see yourself coming and going. The rootbeer is a far MOre interesting choice for a budding WIS.
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:40 AM   #52
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Right now everything is hot but historically TT does not hold value well, keep that in mind.



That being said, the sub is the s-class of watches. Youre paying alot to see yourself coming and going. The rootbeer is a far MOre interesting choice for a budding WIS.


Exactly. I wouldn’t ever pay MSRP for a 2-tone watch. When the economy eventually goes south, 6-digit 2-tone watches will be among to first to take a hit.

The 5-digit 2-tone has been retired for a long time and will take a less hit (if any). Plus, the case isn’t the super-case version and screams “ look at me”.

Just my opinion that wasn’t asked for :)
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:44 AM   #53
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:47 AM   #54
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If I could only get one right now it’s the White Sky. It’s just a little more than msrp Grey. It’s a professional watch that doubles as a dress watch.
If the $ is available I’d look for a Blue Yellow gold sub. You can find them very discounted, And you don’t run into them coming and going.


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Old 13 January 2020, 09:50 AM   #55
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If the CHNR was never on your radar then forget it. Pretty simple actually lol
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:55 AM   #56
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Wait for the sub. I think you will enjoy it more. Being a newbie get something that is a classic. Now I know the root beer is a great new piece but a sub and a datejust perhaps most would agree are more iconic and timeless models. Especially being a new guy you might be better off getting a sub for the bracelet since it doesn’t show scratches that easy. The gold on the root beer scratches very easy on them which being a new Rolex guy may bother you. Just be patient and for the first model get only what you want. Worst case go gray with davidsw or timepiece Gentleman if you don’t want to wait. Good luck and hope you find one soon.
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:55 AM   #57
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lol. can't readily answer which i see more of, black dial submariners or canada goose jackets.
Lol. Half the women I see are wearing those jackets and it’s like 10oC!
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:56 AM   #58
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Do not and I repeat do not buy this watch just to set yourself up for another watch in the future. That backfires for many on this forum. I did the same thing 2 years not one watch from my top 3 on wish list from my AD
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Old 13 January 2020, 09:57 AM   #59
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If it's good, why not have it as my only Rolex for a while?


In my opinion it’s not as versatile (dress to casual ratio).

If you disagree. Go for it!

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Old 13 January 2020, 10:01 AM   #60
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If you like it, buy it. Otherwise don't.

On value retention, usually you are more likely to take a hit with TT compared to SS.
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